The Cardinal FANS are what makes a curtian call happen, not the players. If they dont take that curtian call when the fans are standing up and cheering long after they hit a home run, they will continue to do so until they get one. I dont think the Philly fans demand curtian calls like cardinal fans do, so him giving a curtian was not a slap on the face at all. Its pretty much a must if the fans want it.

Wrong again...Even if baseball fans may be Philly's weakest link...it's still Philly and they ARE still intense. Rolen knew when the fans wanted a curtian call...it's a bit obvious if after you have a multi-homerun game and the fans cheer loudly...I've witnessed it, it was a blatant call for a curtain call and Rolen didn't give one. This happened multiple times also. So, don't act like just because the Cardinals may have 20,000 more people out to the game, like it's not hard to see when the fans want a curtain call. You can't say that I'm wrong, I watch at least 150 Phillies games a year, I would know.

Philly fans are evil though...in a way, I cant blame them for what JD Drew did to them, but I dont find it to be nesicary to throw batteries at him....:rolleyes:

Yeah...I just mentally dislike people...I wouldn't try to physically hurt them, that's going wayyy too far.

Cardinals are plying good, and they do deserve a big hand for beating the the best pitchers in the national league.

But seeing them in the final or winning a series this year, i don't know, they're just missing something, and it's not offence.

BTW: It would really make me laugh all day, if the Yankees loose the first round. I hope.

Well, the Yankees have lost 9-5! :D...This makes me happy, not just because the Yankees lost, but also because I respect the Angels...Twins won too. :D...Braves won. Boo...oh well, go Twins and Angels!

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Well, um, you can't wi...:mad:

Time for a new avatar and sig...

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(Next year...)

I know, I'm so happy that Yankees lost.... Yankees SUCK.

Yes, they do. They only won 103 games...:rolleyes:

Anything can happen in a 5-game series, that's why they play them and don't just decide the champ by who had the most wins. Don't worry tough, they'll be back next year...

Better next year? LMAO.

Seriously they had good players this year and could pass first round. If you look at their standings through the last 3-4 years they haven't won much. sure they won in the houndreths, but not as much as they did in one year.

Guy, c'mon now. They won all, but 1 WS in the last 4 years. (2 in the last 5 if you count this year). They've won the right to play in the postseason every year since '96 and like Anaheim just showed us, the postseason is what matters. Sure they didn't win 100 every year, but does anyone? And really did anyone ever expect them or anyone else to match 114 (3rd most ever) wins in '98? The Mariners did, but they didn't even make the playoffs this year with pretty much the same team. The Yanks are the most consistent team season-to-season in the AL right now...

(And yes Steinbrenner's money makes a difference. But they make money because people come to their games and buy tickets and jerseys and watch them on TV. Know why? THEY EARN THE MONEY BY WINNING, consistently...)

WE WILL BE BACK NEXT YEAR...

Yeah, with your ass load of money.

LMAO! They earn the money because the owners are rich bastards, and because of that HUGE TV contract that other teams dont get. Nothing more.

and BTW, your starting to sound like a cub fan with the ''Next Year'' comment :-o

and also, this discussion should be in my new topic, not this one, this one is for favorite sports teams :p

Aight, this is an argument I can't win. Yes, the team is rich as hell as yes we can (and do) pretty much buy World Series, but you got to give the players and coaches some credit for winning and making the fans care enough to make the team even richer. The Rangers and Mets pay their players a ****load of money too (I know, not as much as the Yanks) but look, they are still sub-.500 teams...

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That's the thing that is horrible about baseball, you can buy your way to the World Series. Justin and I were talking earlier today and we were saying how baseball is so predictable. I mean if you look at football the Rams and Steelers both have losing records. Who would have ever guessed?

Jason...didn't you say "what till next year" every time the Cardinals lost too? :-o

Yes, I suppouse they deserve a little credit for winning all these times, you would think they might have a bad year at some point but they never really do. And the Mets are funny, they were suppoused to be good, spent money and all, and they were pure crap. And every year the Cubs seem to improve themselves, only to lose more games then the previous year. That whole Franchise dosnet know how to win, from the players, right up to the GM.

While you make a good point in some ways, baseball is still pretty unpredictable I think. First and foremost, I dont think anybody predicted the Cardinals to sweep the Diamondbacks in the division seires, except for me of course. And who would have thought Seattle would have not even made the playoffs this year after having one of the best season in the history of baseball last year. And there is also the Twins, they were on Bud Seileg's **** list, and now they are in the in the ALCS.

I dont believe I ever said ''what till next year''

possibly something similar.:burger:

Ya maybe they'll be back in Last Place.

Boston will get that first spot after 8 long years. We'll get it you'll see.