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TheSlyMoogle 01-15-2011 12:20 AM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox 6 (Post 274586)
Taken out of context.

The lie is that if a particular cake which was promised is real or not.

Thats just weak political tactics.

By that logic I say that all pie must be bad because people only use it to throw at each other, and never eat it.

See though, if it was pie, you would have died at the end of portal.

Because even if the pie was a lie, you would have tried to get some anyway.

Fox 6 01-15-2011 12:59 AM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
Fuck that noise.

Swan 01-15-2011 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Fox 6 (Post 274593)
Fuck that noise.

And that is the ultimate sign that pie has won.


A cake supporter whole heartedly giving up the argument

Fox 6 01-15-2011 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 274600)
And that is the ultimate sign that pie has won.


A cake supporter whole heartedly giving up the argument

Its not giving up. Hes telling me what i would do in a situation, witch couldnt be further from the truth. Hes fabricating lies. Pie people do that, in order to tell themselves pie is good. which makes me think that all pie enthusiasts are masochists.

Teuthida 01-15-2011 12:59 PM

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Plus no pie aficionados have addressed this:

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Originally Posted by Teuthida (Post 274560)
Mister Professor, the definition of pie is basically anything on pie crust. That's like saying you like hamburgers because of the bread. What a silly notion. Silly I say! Silly!


I happened to make custard pie yesterday. But I didn't use any crust. So it wasn't a pie. Just an awesome bowl of custard. Which could have only possibly been better if I had some cake with it.

Angrist 01-15-2011 01:28 PM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
I wonder which one is healthier, cake or pie. I don't like cake all that much, because it tastes too sweet and fat. At least with pie you often get some fruit inside your stomach.

TheSlyMoogle 01-15-2011 02:04 PM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
In the order of desserts of win it goes like this from Greatest to worst (Greatest starting at the top):

Pies
Brownies (Which are almost cake, but not quite)
Cookies
Gelato
Ice Cream
Sorbet
Sherbet
Candy
Various sweet Breads
Carrot Cake
Cake

That's how terrible cake is.

Teuthida 01-15-2011 02:15 PM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
Could you have a more lazy foodstuff? Hot fruit thrown into some crust.

And you can't bring carrot cake into this without your black sheep: Rhubarb pie.

Heat this up and plop it in some crust. There's your pie.


Angrist 01-15-2011 03:25 PM

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we used to grow rhubarb in our garden. I haven't eaten it in 15 years...

Combine 017 01-15-2011 07:43 PM

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For the longest time I thought it was called Rebar pie, so I was confused why anyone would want to eat it.

Professor S 01-18-2011 07:30 AM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
Teuth, Rhubarb pie is delicious, and just another example of pie's versatility, and respect of function (taste) above form (awful, disgusting chemicals, stabilizers, leavening agents, colorants, fondant icing a.k.a. edible plastic).



And just to show you what an ignorant slut you are, you do not put the entire plant into the pie. Only the lovely, colorful, and delicious stalk. The leaf is actually deadly poison, making rhubarb pie more BAD-ASS. Its the pie version of Fugu.

So not only is pie tastier, more versatile, and purer than cake, it could also kick cake's ass in a cage match.

Teuthida 01-18-2011 12:11 PM

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Your tastebuds must have been rendered retarded from the decades of being pied in your cakehole.

I've had rhubarb pie. Hell, I've made it a number of times. You need to drown it with sugar to get any sort of satisfaction. Make a pie with pigeon crap and you'd need less sugar to reach the same level of enjoyment.

That's right, I bake. Given your expectations of what's in cake, you've obviously never had anything that wasn't from a mix or store bought.

Professor S 01-18-2011 02:42 PM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Teuthida (Post 274665)
Your tastebuds must have been rendered retarded from the decades of being pied in your cakehole.

I've had rhubarb pie. Hell, I've made it a number of times. You need to drown it with sugar to get any sort of satisfaction. Make a pie with pigeon crap and you'd need less sugar to reach the same level of enjoyment.

That's right, I bake. Given your expectations of what's in cake, you've obviously never had anything that wasn't from a mix or store bought.

Sir, I had a PA dutch grandmother who made a chocolate fudge cake that would make you cry... until you had her apple pie.

The reason why you don't like pie is that you can't bake. HAVE AT YOU!

Teuthida 01-18-2011 03:24 PM

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So her cake made you cry? Then I can only assume the apple pie was used as an emetic to make room for more of the cake no doubt filled with a cocktail of drugs to swing your mood so wildly that you're reduced to blubbering pool of chocolatey tears.

I can bake alright. But I don't consider making pie, baking. A blind overworked paraplegic circus seal could make a pie using only its mutant prehensile foreskin. You can't make a cake willy nilly like you can with a pie. Cake requires precise calculations. To bake a cake you need to be both a scientist and a student of the mystic dessert arts.

Professor S 01-18-2011 04:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Teuthida (Post 274669)
So her cake made you cry? Then I can only assume the apple pie was used as an emetic to make room for more of the cake no doubt filled with a cocktail of drugs to swing your mood so wildly that you're reduced to blubbering pool of chocolatey tears.

I said it would make YOU cry. The remainder of your reply is moot.

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I can bake alright. But I don't consider making pie, baking. A blind overworked paraplegic circus seal could make a pie using only its mutant prehensile foreskin. You can't make a cake willy nilly like you can with a pie. Cake requires precise calculations. To bake a cake you need to be both a scientist and a student of the mystic dessert arts.
Scientist? Its the scientific equivalent of making a baking soda and vinegar volcano. Can you read? Then you can make a cake. There is no art in the baking, only the decorating. The COVER-UP.

And the last time I checked they sold cake mixes out of boxes with fake names like Betty Crocker. Gee, that sounds impossible. Where is the pie box? Hmmm? Oh yeah, that's because pie isn't simply the task of mixes A with B and baking. It requires fresh ingredients. Crust must be cut-in correctly, with just the right mix of shortening and butter, then CHILLED before baking for maximum flakiness.

The is no step by step, oz by oz instructions for pie. It is the confluence of the culinary arts. Cake is a math problem, and they give you the answer on the side of the test.

Have your cake, and languish in your inequity. I'll have my pie and relish in nirvana.

For the record, you lost this argument after Cheesecake was revealed to be custard pie. Just an objective analysis of events.

Teuthida 01-18-2011 04:23 PM

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Scientist? Its the scientific equivalent of making a baking soda and vinegar volcano. Can you read? Then you can make a cake. There is no art in the baking, only the decorating.
And you can be an illiterate dunce to make pie. What exactly is the point you're trying to make?

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And the last time I checked they sold cake mixes out of boxes with fake names like Betty Crocker. Gee, that sounds impossible. Where is the pie box? Hmmm? Oh yeah, that's because pie isn't simply the task of mixes A with B and baking. It requires fresh ingredients. Crust must be cut-in correctly, with just the right mix of shortening and butter, then CHILLED before baking for maximum flakiness.
You can buy pre-made pie crust. Most recipes call for it. Chop up some apples. And bake until whenever. Durrrr, that was hard. Good thing no reading was required.

Again with the cake from a box? By that logic you can find pie in a vending machine:



Talk about artificial ingredients...

Professor S 01-18-2011 06:04 PM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Teuthida (Post 274672)
And you can be an illiterate dunce to make pie. What exactly is the point you're trying to make?



You can buy pre-made pie crust. Most recipes call for it. Chop up some apples. And bake until whenever. Durrrr, that was hard. Good thing no reading was required.

Again with the cake from a box? By that logic you can find pie in a vending machine:



Talk about artificial ingredients...

Those are not pies. They are called "pasties", a variation on pie, once again showing off its versatility. Pie made cheap and accessible to the masses. Pie trumps cake in socioeconomic realms as well as taste.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasty

Pie is so good it necessitated spin-offs.

Professor S 01-18-2011 06:08 PM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Teuthida (Post 274672)
You can buy pre-made pie crust. Most recipes call for it. Chop up some apples. And bake until whenever. Durrrr, that was hard. Good thing no reading was required.

Pie is the crust. If you don't make the crust, you haven't made a pie. Cake mix is cake mix, whether together in a box or in separate parts and you have to put it together yourself.

There is no art to it. Pie requires a deft hand, that is why most recipes assume you don't have the skill to build it yourself.

Cake? Toss it in a bowl and mix. Bake. Pancakes take more skill.

Teuthida 01-18-2011 06:21 PM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
You're grasping at straws. How can you talk about art and skill?



Starry Nighted your ass.

And who knows what the make up of that is. Could be anything. Whereas with pie you have this:



Except just change the fruit for variation. Yawn.

And I like how you're playing the name game. Cheesecake is called cake but is really pie but then Hostess pies aren't really pies but pasties. Picking and choosing what's what instead of going by what it's called.

Professor S 01-18-2011 09:23 PM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Teuthida (Post 274675)
You're grasping at straws. How can you talk about art and skill?



Starry Nighted your ass.

And it made me throw up in my mouth a little. The art I speak of is what takes place in your mouth, not in icing that probably tastes like lighter fluid.


Quote:



Except just change the fruit for variation. Yawn.
Simple, yet refined. The purity of the art form. Your cake is porn. Pie is a film by Truffaut.

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And I like how you're playing the name game. Cheesecake is called cake but is really pie but then Hostess pies aren't really pies but pasties. Picking and choosing what's what instead of going by what it's called.
I'm not the one playing games. I said pasties are a variation of a pie. Cheesecake has nothing in common with a cake. NOTHING. It doesn't have leavening, nor FLOUR. It is a custard sitting on a crust. Hence: PIE.

You don't have to believe me. Ask Alton Brown from the Food Network.

Skip to 1:40




THE WORLD'S MOST POPULAR CAKE IS A PIE. GAME. SET. MATCH.

Good day to you, sir. Good day.


Teuthida 01-18-2011 09:51 PM

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You don't have to believe me. Ask Alton Brown from the Food Network.
Fallacy: Argument from authority....and an Elvis impersonator.

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THE WORLD'S MOST POPULAR CAKE IS A PIE. GAME. SET. MATCH.
And yet the most popular pie isn't cheesecake for when one asks another what sort of pie they would like, they answer with a singular noun of the preferred filling which is expected to be followed by the suffix of "pie". Thus no one will ever respond with: "cheese" when asked.

And on the whole matter of what makes pie, pie, please refer back to my hamburger/bread analogy. Wouldn't custard on cake be far superior to a thin piece of almost non existent crunchy blahness which is merely there to keep your plate just a tad less messy? The answer is a resounding: Yes, yes it would.

Vampyr 01-18-2011 09:53 PM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
The greatest desert in the world is a cake:


Professor S 01-19-2011 09:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Teuthida (Post 274678)
Fallacy: Argument from authority....and an Elvis impersonator.

Funny, I thought someone who is an authority on food, and illustrates the SCIENTIFIC difference between cake and pie, would hold weight...

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And yet the most popular pie isn't cheesecake for when one asks another what sort of pie they would like, they answer with a singular noun of the preferred filling which is expected to be followed by the suffix of "pie". Thus no one will ever respond with: "cheese" when asked.
Now who is playing word games again?

I stand by argument, that will now be known to posterity as "The Cheesecake Revelation".

Professor S 01-19-2011 09:22 AM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vampyr (Post 274679)
The greatest desert in the world is a cake:


Your personal opinion on Tiramisu is apreciated, but inconsequential. Cheesecake is by far the most loved cake in the world. And it is a pie.

As for Tiramisu itself:

Tiramisu is a TRIFLE, not a cake, and it is made from layering components, and the only baked good involved are Lady Fingers which are best described as cookies or biscuits. It doesn't even have icing, but custard or pastry cream, which is what is used in Trifles.

Even the Wiki for for Tiramisu describes it as a Trifle.

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There is some debate regarding tiramisu's origin. It may have originated as a variation of another layered dessert, the Zuppa Inglese, and is an Italian version of the English trifle.[1]
DO YOU CAKE PEOPLE EVEN KNOW WHAT CAKE IS?

Vampyr 01-19-2011 10:43 AM

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Lady fingers are sponge cakes - the rest of tiramisu is basically just icing. Saying that a cake isn't cake because it has custard on it is like saying a pie can't be a pie because it has apples in it. :mischief:

Teuthida 01-19-2011 11:39 AM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Professor S (Post 274682)
Funny, I thought someone who is an authority on food, and illustrates the SCIENTIFIC difference between cake and pie, would hold weight...

He knew he was on shaky ground so he had an Elvis impersonator do it for him. Plus "Brown says that he was a poor science student in high school and college..."

And now it also appears that you're basing your entire argument on one type of pie that isn't even called pie.

I'll just leave this here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cakes

Look at all those glorious cakes.



Now let's take a look at all those...um....crusty meats....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pies

Professor S 01-19-2011 12:31 PM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vampyr (Post 274686)
Lady fingers are sponge cakes - the rest of tiramisu is basically just icing. Saying that a cake isn't cake because it has custard on it is like saying a pie can't be a pie because it has apples in it. :mischief:

According to the Tirimisu Wiki they are in fact biscuits, the European name for cookies.

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It is made of biscuits (usually savoiardi) dipped in coffee, layered with a whipped mixture of egg yolks and mascarpone, and flavored with liquor and cocoa
And NO, custard is not icing and it is not comprable to apples in an apple pie.

It is a trifle. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

Teuth, you argument against Alton Brown is absurd, and a tacit admission of failure. Since the argument has reduced to absurdities and deliberate lies, I will leave it.

The best cake is a pie.

Good day. Enjoy your pie.

Teuthida 01-19-2011 12:45 PM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
Enjoy your cheesecake. The only decent pie. Don't get bored now.

*goes to survey the wonderful world of cake*

Vampyr 01-19-2011 01:12 PM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Professor S (Post 274688)
According to the Tirimisu Wiki they are in fact biscuits, the European name for cookies.



And NO, custard is not icing and it is not comprable to apples in an apple pie.

It is a trifle. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

Teuth, you argument against Alton Brown is absurd, and a tacit admission of failure. Since the argument has reduced to absurdities and deliberate lies, I will leave it.

The best cake is a pie.

Good day. Enjoy your pie.

That line you are quoting from wikipedia is immediately preceded by this line:

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Tiramisu (Italian: tiramisł; Venetian: tiramesł [tirameˈsu]; literally "pull me up") is one of the most popular Italian cakes.

Professor S 01-19-2011 01:24 PM

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To separate the ignorant from the informed...

http://whatscookingamerica.net/Histo...s/Tiramisu.htm

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Tiramisu (tih-ruh-mee-SOO) - The Italian translation for tiramisu is "carry me up."

Also known as Tuscan Trifle. Tradition tiramisu is a pudding-like dessert that usually consists of sponge cake or ladyfingers dipped in a liqueur, then layered with grated chocolate and rich custard. Tiramisu was originally made as a loose custard, it is only in recent years that using mascarpone cheese has come into fashion.
And before you say it: Yes, a Tiramisu can have sponge cake in it, but that does NOT make it cake, just as a ham sandwich is NOT a ham. Hell, this even proves my point further. They have to use custard and booze to make cake more appealing...


Vampyr 01-19-2011 05:03 PM

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If we are requiring the dessert to be reduced down to it's distinguishing component in order to be labeled that type of dessert, then cake would become plain cake (sweet, but no extra flavors), and pie would just become crust.

TheSlyMoogle 01-19-2011 06:49 PM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
Wow you Cake kids are really reaching these days.

Too bad Prof is da best at Pie arguments.

Someday cake kids, someday perhaps a cake will come along to save you from tasting terrible. Carrot cake was a good shot. So maybe.

BreakABone 01-19-2011 07:10 PM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle (Post 274699)
Wow you Cake kids are really reaching these days.

Too bad Prof is da best at Pie arguments.

Someday cake kids, someday perhaps a cake will come along to save you from tasting terrible. Carrot cake was a good shot. So maybe.

We've got a ton of great tasting stuff on our side, you have cheesecake....


Fox 6 01-19-2011 07:56 PM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
Cake is even better on the small scale. Tarts blow chunks. Cupcakes for life.

TheSlyMoogle 01-19-2011 08:06 PM

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Lol red velvet cake is terrible. Absolutely terrible.

Also Pie would never dry out and get yucky like cake. Nasty fucking cake.

Teuthida 01-19-2011 08:32 PM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
Yes, fruit neeevvvveeeerrrr goes bad. :rolleyes: And pie crust is always minutes away from turning soggy or becoming teethbreakingly hard.



/thread

BreakABone 01-19-2011 09:55 PM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle (Post 274704)
Lol red velvet cake is terrible. Absolutely terrible.

Also Pie would never dry out and get yucky like cake. Nasty fucking cake.



Red Velvet is awesome, just proves your tastebuds are screwed.

Fox 6 01-19-2011 10:21 PM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
Saw this on The Chive

game, set, cakes.

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...74096741&saved

Professor S 01-19-2011 10:50 PM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle (Post 274699)
Someday cake kids, someday perhaps a cake will come along to save you from tasting terrible. Carrot cake was a good shot. So maybe.

Carrot cake is very good, but only because it has many pie-like qualities.

Teuthida 01-19-2011 10:54 PM

Re: What is Game Play?
 
And how is this like a pie pray tell?



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