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Um, yes I did act like you were guilty before this. I listed you, Nighthawk, and Swan.

I changed my vote to that tornado guy after you and nighthawk posted about BaB tricking you, because he tried the same thing on me and I felt you might be telling some truth.

But then you flipped out for some reason, which brought my attention back to you.

Which has be wondering two things:

Why would you do that if my vote wasn't currently on you?

This either means that tornado is the other mafia and you needed to protect him, or you are a villager. But if you are a villager it doesn't make sense to bring so much attention to yourself with a weird and far fetched theory.

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You contradict yourself, though.

I mean, you say:
http://www.gametavern.net/forums/sho...8&postcount=37

And yet according to Dylflon in the last thread you guys were communicating behind the scenes:
http://www.gametavern.net/forums/sho...0&postcount=95

To which you did indeed promptly change your vote.

So which is it, you thought he was innocent before? Or he's never been innocent? Because you're contradicting yourself.

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I have not communicated with Dyl until after that last round was over.

The reason I changed my vote, and the reason he suspected me too, was because my vote for Dylflon was a wasted one, with only a couple of minutes left and him having only 1 or 2 votes, there was no hope that anyone was going to go for him.

Like I said in the last thread, I didn't care who died as long as it was BaB, Dyl, or Jeepnut.

BaB dying has at least vindicated Jeepnut, and partially vindicated Dyl. I do not totally believe Dylflon is innocent, but I do so more than I did in the last round.

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As far as I'm concerned, this constant bickering always concerns the same group of people while we still have a number of others who are relatively "quiet" and just drop in to vote, say a few lines, and disappear. I'm not openly accusing anyone, but I'm insinuating that we should probably "expand our horizons."

However, that doesn't mean we should ignore the fact that we're suspicious of each other. I understand I'm a main suspect now, mostly due to my indecisiveness, my erratic voting pattern, etc.

Bube, I find it a curious thing that you are now voting against me when in Round 2, you rightly messaged me and told told me your thoughts on Combine being evil. However, in the same message, I believe you said Ric was in the same league as Combine? I should have believed you and voted with you on your first point, but I was sure Ric wasn't mafia (esp. since we communicated a lot). But whatever, that was just two rounds ago, right?

However, Angrist (I think..too lazy to check :p) says I threw a vote away last round, and that I did. I didn't want any part in the jeepnut/BaB battle and instead voted for Angrist (which some have called a throwaway vote and made me look suspicious?) based on suspicion and his voting record... but you, Bube, had kept your vote for BaB until..
http://gametavern.net/forums/showpos...5&postcount=52
You retracted and "threw your vote" for Swan. My "throwaway vote" is seen as suspicious. Yours isn't.

Also, you knew about Fyacin and his role as the vigilante, along with Germanator and jeepnut. How were the members of the mafia able to kill off one of our most valuable members? Dumb luck? I find that hard to believe.

Lastly, I know you talked to BaB, but I'm pretty sure BaB talked to everyone he could talk to in this game.

I obviously suspect you, but I'm always slow with these sort of things. I'm currently debating whether or not to vote for you-- especially because I don't want my vote to be seen as a "reactionary vote".

But as I said at the start of this post, the same people keep bickering while there is still a odd number of people who are relatively quiet. I suggest we investigate this more.

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I'm not suspicious of BlueFire because he could have voted for Jeepnut and tipped the scale, saving BaB.

What we have to look at here is that they were 1 vote away from being tied. Anyone that didn't vote for Jeepnut is -probably- not a Mafia, since they could have at least tied it, giving them a chance to save BaB.

Unless...they didn't post, which really makes things hard to judge.

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So I won't be around at round's end to pass on info before I die since I'm helping my girlfriend on a photoshoot.

That means that I've only confirmed 2 good guys .

The pro side of outing them:

Nobody bothers wasting votes on them.
It narrows the field slightly.


The cons:
Once I'm dead, the mafia will go straight for them to make things more confusing for the villagers.
Nobody seems to be suspicious of them anyways.

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I !vote thatmariolover because I need to vote for somebody and since he keeps riding my ass.

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And for the triple post the two innocent players are Vampyr and Teuthida.

Vampyr is pretty sure TML is mafia so I'm rolling with it.

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Dude. Nobody cares if the mafia go after them in the next round. It's 2 villagers who are confirmed to be good. They already know that, don't they?

But we don't.

I think you're just stalling. If you reveal their names, you die and you turn out to be evil, you'll have us confused. Nobody knows whether the last mafia is among those 2 or not.
If you reveal their names, those 2 might say "euh circle of trust? I haven't communicated with Dylflon at all!" and you'll be busted.

If you don't reveal them and survive this round, you can play this whole game all over again in the next round.

Give. Us. The. Info. Stop playing with us.
Edit: ok there it is.

Vampyr and Teuthida, is this true?

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Haha, ninjad.

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Yes, it is true. That's why I said that I hadn't communicated with him until after the end of the last round, which is when he seered me, and why I said that I am no longer as suspicious of him as I was in the last round.

Teuthida can speak for himself when he gets here.

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Fixed!

But if you guys are Mafia you know who the good guys are. So you just randomly start contacting them saying they're good? Seems easy enough. On the other hand, nobody else has claimed to be the seer yet, so it could be. Unless it's just a rouse to get the real seer to show himself.

At any rate, this game is getting too complicated. It's fun, but only for so long. I'm sticking by my vote for Dylflon, if I was mafia why waste the vote, my time, or make this big of a deal out of it (drawing attention to myself) when I could take him out after this round?

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Blah. This is getting complicated.
By the way, I was bored tonight so decided to come back for some more mafia love.

I still think it's a good idea to go after the quiet people. What are they contributing to the game anyway? They just enter the thread, cast their vote and leave again.

I'll stick with my vote.

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This is why I said I wasn't entirely sure about Dylflon, since he could be a mafia just pretending to be the seer.

But the fact that no one else has stood up and said 'I'm the seer!', coupled with that fact that he and Teuthida made no attempt to save BaB, leads me to believe he is the real seer.

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Hmm, despite what I thought before, I actually think Dylflon makes a convincing argument and TML...I don't know... AHH confusion

!thatmariolover

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Yes, it's true Dylflon contacted me telling me he seered me. And then last round told me he seered Vampyr and that he was a goodie too. I would like to believe him but there is still no proof unless someone else speaks up as being the real seer.

I'm wary of the votes from last round. BAB hinted that maybe a couple mafia got into voting for him in the confusion. Don't know if he was just messing with me or that some of those who voted for him (and maybe changed their vote) were mafia.

When I didn't know who to vote for last vote and said I was going to go with someone from my list of unknowns, he suggested I go with Angrist. I would like to say that clears Angrist of suspicion but who knows how deep the trickery goes. Then again Angrist's list matches mine pretty closely...but I'm less trusting of some of those on it after BAB's hint.

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Standings:

thatmariolover - 3
tornadothrasher - 1
Dylflon - 1
BlueFire - 1

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BlueFire: Yes, I know I contacted you in the second round. The reason I got suspicious of you was because you didn't vote for Combine, even though you said that that was what we had to do, and the votes were tied, meaning you could've broken it. But you didn't.

About the Fyacin thing, yes, I know it makes me look suspicious. But I was just trying to get some info out. I sure as hell don't believe Fyacin got killed out of luck, on the round he said this. All 3 of us could be guilty in everybody else's eyes, think of that what you will. I damn well know that I'm not guilty.

I never thought your throwaway vote was suspicious. And neither should mine be. I trusted jeepnut and voted for BaB, then I thought that my decision might be too fast, but just didn't have time to figure out a new name. I could've voted for you, like I did right now, but I decided to wait one more round for something to be revealed about you. Nothing, so I'm going with my first thought.

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When did Fyacin tell you guys?

I'm wary of Germy. I had him pegged as a goodie but after BAB's hint at the voting confusion and that he said it was easy to find out who the vigilante was. Germy's first post in this thread is oozing with generic goodguy patonthebackness. I try not to let the tone of posts make me jump to conclusions but that one just seemed off to me from how some baddies posted in past mafia games...well, Dylflon's too. Again don't want vote based on tone of post.

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I hate coming into these threads four pages in. Takes way too long to read everything and getting all these theories at once hurts my brain.


I need time to ponder out my vote

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He told us right at the beginning of the last round. And yes, Germy's first post got me thinking as well, but I agree with you. And I usually wait a bit before I come to a conclusion..

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Alright, I need more time to think this over, but I'm not sure I'll have it tonight. Putting in a placeholder vote that may change.

!vote thatmariolover

Even if you are innocent, we should still learn a great deal. Hopefully I'm back in time to take a second look at all of this.

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Adieu!

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It seems like you guys have signed thatmariolover's death warrant.

There are too many quiet peoples I want to investigate, but my vote won't matter much since the mob has decided who dies today. He has voted dylflon more than once and even voted against jeepnut last round. I guess that seals the deal.. I hope. :unsure:

I still think we're not focusing enough on the quiet people.. thinking of tornado, Nighthawk, Swan, teuthida..

Oh well,

!vote thatmariolover

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Teuthida is legit though. Consider him vouched for once I'm dead.

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Quiet? QUIET!?!?!?



Thats because I go to school in the days and my computer AND internet only work some of the time. I shall hopefully be around more.



Can't really think of anyone this round so don't want to sign any death warrants.

!vote Teuthidia

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I'm just relatively quiet this round because I am more confused than ever.

Going to go with !vote Germanator for the reasons given above and because I don't have enough evidence to blindly condemn the lover of marios.

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I really don't have any idea who to vote for... I'll just play safe this round, so

!vote Bube

because he probably won't get voted...

ok I'm going to bed now...

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I'll just say you're making a mistake. In consecutive rounds I've voted for both Combine and BaB, both Mafia, despite BaB trying to trick me. In essence, like it seems with everyone, BaB has been talking to every one (including me) and that's why I had a hunch he was up to no good. Honestly, I've been quiet in this game because my real life has been busy, no other reason than that.

Anyway, I'm torn between TML and someone like Tornado, though it looks like TML is going no matter how I vote. Just to go with my conviction (which has been right the last 2 rounds, by the way...

!vote tornadothrasher

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Standings:

thatmariolover - 5
tornadothrasher - 2
Dylflon - 1
BlueFire - 1
Teuthida - 1
The Germanator - 1
Bube - 1

About two hours until this round ends. Still plenty of time to deliberate.

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Fyacin told us when I contacted everyone who voted for Combine in round 2. I contacted all of them together in a mass PM in order to form an alliance against BaB. Fyacin replied to all in the PM informing us that he was the vigilante.

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Gah, I really want to go with Dylflon or Vampyr just to confirm they're who they say they are. If thatmariolover turns out to be a goodie I don't think it will reveal anything. If we make a mistake with the voting it should at least allow us to narrow suspects down.

Ah fudge it. !retract The Germanator

!vote Dylflon

I just want hard answers.

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We have the same people doing the same throw away vote thing again.

Gah.

I'm not so sure about mariolover anymore, but I don't have any better ideas.

I still suspect nighthawk and swan too, for voting for jeepnut last time.

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I'm also worried that if Mario turns out to be good I'm going to look pretty bad. :O

Oh well, if I go down next time that should clear up a lot of things for the good guys. :(

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Alright TML. I can still be convinced to change my vote. Lay it on me.

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When does this round end?

And also, TML, please go ahead and defend yourself (if you care enough). I'm more than willing to change my vote if that hasn't been evident from the previous rounds :p

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15 minutes.

EDIT: Countdown!

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Hmm, much slower this go round. Personally unsure if the right guy is going out, but I hope I'm wrong.

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This round is over.

The next round will be up very shortly.