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I think Ryan's plan was to make it close to objectivity, and I don't think he meant for people to butcher each other and stuff.

It was the citizens who took the "freedom" the wrong way. Which is what I was trying to say before - it fell apart, because people aren't perfect. Give people a bit of a good thing, and they want more. And some will go to any lengths to get it. Which affects everybody around.

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I agree with your synopsis of the failure of the society in Bioshock, I just don't agree that is was an Objectivist society because of the utter absence on reason and morality. Rand wrote, self-interest without morality is hedonism, or self-interest without a self. You've mentioned perfection several times in this discussion and how it can be the downfall of Objectivism. Can you go further into this, because I'm not sure what you are referring to?

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Well, "perfection" may not be the correct word - blame it on my rusty English :)

But here's what I mean - even though Rand suggests that morality be within reason and all that, and that reason, truth and self-interest should be the main focus of a man's life, there are going to be people who don't follow these rules, and take it the wrong way.

This endangers the ones who do, because this kind of a society seems to be in a very delicate balance - it relies on reason to keep everything in order.