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The Germanator 07-18-2008 05:53 PM

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Saw it. Loved it. Yup.

Swan 07-18-2008 06:54 PM

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Wait, wait.


So the cops knew internal affairs was setting them up the whole time?

flunkie44 07-18-2008 08:13 PM

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How many times did BaB orgasm again?

BlueFire 07-18-2008 09:03 PM

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Amazing film. :o

Fox 6 07-18-2008 10:08 PM

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Saw it. Loved it. Rock.

DeathsHand 07-19-2008 02:49 AM

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Here's a fun story...

Right in the middle of the movie, when:...

Joker was chatting in his Jail Cell

The projector cut off and the lights came on...
5 minutes later, the project came back on, but WITH NO SOUND...

We see Joker escape, Rachael (apparently) die, and Dent become Two Face

WITH NO SOUND!!!
I mean, luckily it didn't happen at an important part of the flick...

And we got a free movie pass out of it..

GameMaster 07-19-2008 04:07 AM

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Wow, if I see this again, I think I might accidentally memorize the script.

I think its safe to say I'm the official Dark Knight expert. Well, unless someone wants to challenge me by seeing it four times...

We definitely haven't seen the last of Scarecrow, I was so happy when I realized it was him. Expect him to be the main antagonist of the third film.

Swan 07-19-2008 05:34 AM

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I still Two Face willl make a return

BreakABone 07-19-2008 06:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GameMaster (Post 234440)
Wow, if I see this again, I think I might accidentally memorize the script.

I think its safe to say I'm the official Dark Knight expert. Well, unless someone wants to challenge me by seeing it four times...

I think I will take you up on that challenge.

Also someone transcribed the closing monologue

Quote:

Why is he running dad?

Because we have to chase him.

He didn't do anything wrong.

Because he is the hero Gotham deserves but not the one it needs right now.
So we'll hunt him.
Because he can take it.
Because he is not a hero.
He is a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a Dark Knight.

The Germanator 07-19-2008 10:15 PM

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I think my favorite part might have been...

Joker: Do you wanna see a magic trick? I'll make this pencil disappear.
Also loved the scene where Joker is walking out of the hospital in the nurses costume...amazing.

Fox 6 07-19-2008 10:27 PM

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Totally agree Germy. Loved those parts.

manasecret 07-20-2008 04:02 AM

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Tough, tough film. Makes one feel so impotent.

BreakABone 07-20-2008 06:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by manasecret (Post 234511)
Tough, tough film. Makes one feel so impotent.

How does Batman relate to your libido?

Anyhow my favorite part.


Started with the bat logo coming out of the blue flames
Ended with he is The Dark Knight.
Everything in between was just icing.

Angrist 07-20-2008 09:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BreakABone (Post 234478)
Also someone transcribed the closing monologue

Spoilers???? :confused:

Teuthida 07-20-2008 10:07 AM

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Better than Begins...I'll give it that.

I still can't stand Bale's Batman, but the Joker more than made up for it.

manasecret 07-20-2008 11:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BreakABone (Post 234515)
How does Batman relate to your libido?

Hardy har har. To be clear, I was referring to one of these definitions --

im·po·tent
1. not potent; lacking power or ability.
2. utterly unable (to do something).
3. without force or effectiveness.


Btw, seeing it on imax? No contest. It's so much better.

Joeiss 07-20-2008 01:55 PM

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Very cool movie. Right after the movie, I just thought it was okay... but then thinking more of it, I was totally lost in the screenplay for the full 2.5 hours, thinking of nothing else... Very nicely done.


I totally jumped when the fake batman was hung and hit the window.. Definitely was not expecting that.

And I know it is sort of stupid.. but I like the choices that the Joker was making people make. Some movies try to play on villains making people make tough decisions.. but this movie really did a decent job at providing a real human element to it.

Fox 6 07-20-2008 06:43 PM

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Saw it a second time, it was fantastic.

GameMaster 07-20-2008 06:44 PM

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The Dark Knight is not a sequel to Batman Begins.

This was Joker's movie. Joker WAS the star.

Batman was a minor side character.

BreakABone 07-20-2008 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GameMaster (Post 234572)
The Dark Knight is not a sequel to Batman Begins.

This was Joker's movie. Joker WAS the star.

Batman was a minor side character.

That isn't true at all.
This is a true sequel to Begins even down to the tone.

I mean most of this movie in one way or another deals with gotham's fallout over Batman's presence.

As the Joker put it, You've changed things forever. There's no going back.

And batman had more screentime than in Begins.

Dylflon 07-20-2008 06:58 PM

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I was disappointed with the Scarecrow cameo.

KillerGremlin 07-20-2008 07:05 PM

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I'm waiting till next weekend to see it, I have tickets for the IMAX and I don't want to spoil it by seeing it on a tiny screen in a crowded theater. :D

I'll probably avoid drinking any liquids 5 hours prior to the film so I don't have to pee too, it's a long movie.

Teuthida 07-20-2008 07:49 PM

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I spoiled it for myself on a dark blurry 19 inch screen. Felt more like a radio drama.

KillerGremlin 07-20-2008 08:03 PM

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This movie has been hyped to the point where I think waiting a week will be better anyway....all I've read on Digg for the past week is how amazing this film is going to be.

I don't doubt that it will be an amazing film, even a 4-star film, but I'd like to view it on my own terms, not with all the hype stuck in my head. But, it was filmed in Chicago and Heath Ledger apparently delivers, so we shall see.

Vampyr 07-20-2008 08:06 PM

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Just got done seeing it for the second time. Some new comments:


1. I like how one of the "knives" the Joker had was a potato pealer, and the police officer didn't exactly what to do with it.

2. It probably wasn't him, but one of the people on one of the boats at the end looked just like Cillian Murphy.

3. I bet that the detonators that the people on the boats had at the end actually were to their own bombs. Like Batman said, nothing is ever as it seems with the Joker.

DeathsHand 07-20-2008 10:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylflon (Post 234577)
I was disappointed with the Scarecrow cameo.

To me it felt like Christopher Nolan had planned out his entire Jokeriffic Batman sequel before realizing that Scarecrow's story was a bit anti-climactic...
So he tacked on a short scene to shrug him off for good.

DarkMaster 07-21-2008 02:29 AM

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Would've like to have seen a vision of the Joker from the perspective of someone under the influence of the Scarecrow's toxin.

BreakABone 07-21-2008 06:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkMaster (Post 234622)
Would've like to have seen a vision of the Joker from the perspective of someone under the influence of the Scarecrow's toxin.

I was under the impression that the scene would be in the movie. I was disappointed they didn't have any interactions.

Though fun fact, according to the comics the Joker is uneffected by the fear toxin because what can you be afraid of if you are insane?

Teuthida 07-21-2008 06:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BreakABone (Post 234626)
Because what can you be afraid of if you are insane?

Feathers. Especially the tailfeathers of a whooper swan. And if above 70 degrees in temperature...watch out.

Dyne 07-21-2008 07:02 AM

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Jesus christ - this film, in IMAX, is an amazing fucking experience. Holy crap.

I don't understand quite how they decided which scenes would be regular size and IMAX, but however they did it, I applaud them. The high definition scenes were to die for, as was the whole movie. Definitely one of my favourites.

As for Heath Ledger's character, it was impeccably done, and worth the wait. He was such a nuanced character, that he even nailed the way such an insane person would sit down.



Also, the lines that referenced how as long as Batman would be there, the Joker would be there - they can't take those back now. Since we only saw Heath's face briefly, do you think they'll get another actor for the Joker with the makeup emulated? Or maybe greenscreen someone's face as they act and put Heath's appearance on it through the magic of computers? (A la Harvey Dent's later appearance? Well, half of it?)

Also, I know I'm a terrible person, but all throughout the movie I kept thinking that I should pick up The Animated Series on Amazon since they're all $17.99 PLUS promotion price. I ended up buying them all just now. It was like.. retrograde advertising. But honestly, it was my first introduction to Batman and my favourite, until this movie series.

GameMaster 07-21-2008 08:04 AM

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One of my favorite scenes:



They turn the music down and you just see this beautiful moment where he hangs his head out the window like this with the wind blowing against his hair and face and he's just completely immersed in the chaos. And he's in such a peaceful place at this moment. It gave me goosebumps. It was so amazing.

BreakABone 07-21-2008 09:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyne (Post 234631)
Jesus christ - this film, in IMAX, is an amazing fucking experience. Holy crap.

I don't understand quite how they decided which scenes would be regular size and IMAX, but however they did it, I applaud them. The high definition scenes were to die for, as was the whole movie. Definitely one of my favourites.

Well almost all the action scenes were filmed in hi def. As well as any aerial shot. So the beginning, the hong kong jump and the hospital scene were filmed for the splendor. The bank robbery, car chase, climax in the high rise and hong kong were filmed for the action.

Quote:

As for Heath Ledger's character, it was impeccably done, and worth the wait. He was such a nuanced character, that he even nailed the way such an insane person would sit down.
How do you know how insane folks sit?

Quote:

Also, the lines that referenced how as long as Batman would be there, the Joker would be there - they can't take those back now. Since we only saw Heath's face briefly, do you think they'll get another actor for the Joker with the makeup emulated?
I think he was talking in the larger sense of the word and not necessarily in the sequel.
Much like the comics or any media, Batman and Joker are the picture perfect definition of arch nemesis. They both want to rid the world of the other, but without the other their world has no meaning.
Interesting comic I read a few weeks back called Going Sane, in which the Joker goes sane and even gets engaged because he believed he killed Batman.

Quote:

Also, I know I'm a terrible person, but all throughout the movie I kept thinking that I should pick up The Animated Series on Amazon since they're all $17.99 PLUS promotion price. I ended up buying them all just now. It was like.. retrograde advertising. But honestly, it was my first introduction to Batman and my favourite, until this movie series.
Well hopefully you also picked up the animated movies.
And should have owned them already anyhow....

I want your sig.
Maybe you can make me an inverse one with Joker in the foreground and Batman as the shadow.

Vampyr 07-21-2008 02:46 PM

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Even though The Dark Knight is a god among movies, I'd like to encourage people to not forget about Hellboy II. It was actually very good, and it's probably suffering by being released a week before The Dark Knight. If you haven't saw it, you should consider it. It's not as good as the Dark Knight (but what is really), but it's very fun with a good plot, and it creates an interesting mythos.

BreakABone 07-21-2008 07:47 PM

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The Dark Knight is also the King of the big screen.
After a HUGE opening, it now holds the following box office records:

Opening Day Gross
Opening Weekends
Top 3-Day Grosses
Widest Releases
Widest Opening Releases
Fastest to $100 million
Opening Weekends - July
Opening Weekends - Summer
Yearly Opening Weekends 2008
Sunday Gross

Dyne 07-21-2008 08:39 PM

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Jesus christ. That's impossible.

manasecret 07-21-2008 08:43 PM

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Anybody nearby want to go see it with me again on imax? I'm desperate to see it again.

GameMaster 07-21-2008 08:49 PM

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The Dark Knight is better than PS3, Xbox 360, and Wii.

I want to call this place Dark Knight Tavern

Jonbo298 07-21-2008 10:10 PM

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Finally got to see it in IMAX (between work and it being sold out, my first chance was today at 3:40pm as the 7pm and 10:20pm already sold out yet again). Very awesome and something I could see again if I wanted to.

Magic trick was classic :lolz:

Professor S 07-22-2008 08:11 AM

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Well I finally saw The Dark Knight last night, and I'm still processing it. Its not like anything I've ever seen before. Whatever is was, it was beyond what I was expecting. Nolan has blown up the genre of comic book movies and I believe raised the expectations of the audience with this film.

The Joker needs to be retired for a while. Heath Ledger's performance was iconic. Not only was he a great Joker, but he was pretty much the sum of everything there is to fear in this world: a danger we cannot hope to fully understand. That is what made him so dangerous and frightening. He should win an Oscar. If he doesn't, its only because the academy didn't want to be viewed as giving him one because he died.

Thats all I can say for right now. I'm still wrapping my head around it. One thing is for sure... every other comic movie director just shook their head and are wondering what the hell they are going to do now...

Vampyr 07-22-2008 08:42 AM

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I think Marvel Studios is doing a great job. Marvel taking over the making of their own movies was the best move they've ever made. No, they still don't compare to the Dark Knight, but they're very good.

The Dark Knight just has an unbeatable combination of fantastic actors and a great writer/director. I think Nolan is the greatest writer/director we have living at the moment; anything he touches will inevitably be gold.

And yes, I think Heath has created a truly beautiful abomination with the Joker. We can't understand why he does what he does, but we can ponder it, and that is all the more frightening. His lack of any type of origin also heightens his character. After seeing the movie for the second time, I just sat and thought about what kind of circumstances could have made him what he is. It's also interesting to think about where he could have lived, or what kind of food he ate. It's hard to imagine the Joker sitting down to a meal.


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