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Hardy har har... Once again, I enjoyed the movie, but I'm also a history enthusiast and the story of 300 doesn't need much embellishment. In fact, this story is my favorite historical moment of all time and what inspired me to want to be a teacher, so I could relate such amazing moments in human history.

Thats where a movie such as this frustrates me. Most people don;t take the time to educate themselves on the historical portions of historical fiction... so they believe the fiction is the truth. My nightmare is people thinking that Xerxes' Immortals really had boar tusks and scales...

I think a historially accurate potrayal of this battle and story would not only be just as entertaining, but enlightening and show Spartans for both their strengths and their weaknesses, which makes them more human and therefore more relatable to us all.

And Xantar, I never "argue" with you. We simply have very passionate discussions.

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I havent seen it, but I dont know why people would take it literally. I mean...give the general populace a little more credit than that.


I look at the movie from a point of a word of mouth story just passed on through generations, and things become skewed. A "And it was as if they had tusks" could be changed to "they had tusks" to make it more entertaining.

Then again, I dont know, I havent seen it. But that's just my opinion.

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[quote=Typhoid;207946]I havent seen it, but I dont know why people would take it literally. I mean...give the general populace a little more credit than that.[quote]

Are we both talking about the same general populace? The one I'm talking about have proven themselves to be knee-jerk, naive, giant tongued mongoloids who believe anything they see on a movie screen. "An Inconvenient Truth" being a perfect example. "New York City under 20 feet of water" and "warriors with scales and tusks" both have about the same amount of scientific backing and believability, so why would I think anything else about the general populace?

*best segway to a political conversation EVER*

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Or for that matter, "Saddam has weapons of mass destruction."

*runs away*

:D

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Hey, Xantar posts!

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Segway is a two-wheeled machine that has balance issues when the battery runs low.

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Ok, fine. I went phonetic with it. Sue me, word nazi. :D

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Oh, you're talking about Americans.;)

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You know what? While living in Canada I did notice that Canadians are a bit more thoughtful* than Americans in making their political decisions. In America political discussion has degraded to taubts of "You're a terrorist!" and "Your'e a racist, evil conservative!". Those that honor intellectual honesty and objective discussion need not apply, or you'll be branded a bigot, hatemonger, commie or terrorist-lover.

My politics may not go hand in hand with a lot of Canadians, but at least your leaders seem to be knowledgeable and well read. I think this stems from a Parliamentary form of government that makes you confront other ideas and defend your own with intelligent vigor.



*Well, outside of Quebec they are more thoughtful, but thats a given. Quebecers are inbred jackasses with severe penis envy.

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Care to explain that comment?

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Well I didn't think I was being all that cryptic, but sure:

Quebecers are so caught up in being Fake French that they tend to interbreed with one another in their own little Fake French universe at the Fake French capital of Montreal. Their gene-pool has become so small and polluted that all of Quebec's combined IQ equals that of Corky from Life Goes On. This is the reason that such idiotic notions like cessession can become common thought. Also, its kind of funny/stupid how they pretend to hate Americans while they consume American culture like an alcoholic throws back a flask of vodka.

Have I crystalized my opinion a little better for you?

Oh wait, Quebec does have one thing going for it: Strip clubs. Super Sex OWNS. You go ride that national strip club pride while you **** your sister.







Wow, I am in a rare mood thi morning. :D

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Like how Americans are caught up in fake English that they tend to interbreed with one another in their own little fake English universe?

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Not talking about language, Ty, I'm talking about culture. Quebecers WISH they were French and European. Its not just the language. Americans don't act like the British or wish they were British. Americans love being Americans (in general) and you don't see New York trying to cecede from the union. Relativistic argumnts don't work when you miss the point of the argument.

Besides, I'm not talking about Hockey and Beer Canadians... I'm talking about Baguette and Attitude Canadians in one area of the country. I've stated many times that I loved my stay in the Toronto area. I don't know why you would defend those people who obvious dislike the rest of you enough to want to remove your shared nationality.

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The amount of Quebecers who want to seperate is far greater than those who call themselves Canadian.

I dont know where in Quebec you visited, but you must have got a **** draw, because you might have stumbled into one of the only seperatist cities in the province.

And of course they're proud of who they are, and what they are. They're a french speaking province, among an entire continent dedicated to English. They're the one difference about all of North America. I see it as no different as everything else. Culture is what you make of it, not what you take away from it.

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Although a lot of New Yorkers don't really consider it to be part of the U.S.

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Those two paragraphs seem to contradict each other.

I really, really want to agree with you here, because I think what you're saying is what I think. But please clarify what it is you're saying. Culture is what you make of it, not what you take away from it isn't exactly clear.

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The cinematography was quite nice. The picture was incredibly bleak, like Sin City, with the minimalist backdrops, the color choice, and simple sets. Snyder’s style of gore is pretty decent; it splatters and has a certain thickness to it. It’s nice blood. As for the movie itself, it was pretty good. I enjoyed Sin City more when I think about it. But 300 had its moments, and I was rooting for those Spartans till the end. Given the current state of opening movies this weekend, 300 isn’t a bad choice to go see.

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KillerGremlin, please stay on topic, we're talking about Quebec here.

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Quebec speaks french, but exactly what language are you writing in? Once again, I'm not talking about the language... I'm talking about how Quebecers think they're european and look down on those around them, especially to the south. As for what my test group is, I was in Montreal and I've been there many time. If Quebecers aren't like them, then Quebec needs to replace it.

And yes, they have every right to be proud of who they are, and I have every right to think they're stuck up, inbred, rude and lacking in any sort of redeemable personality traits.

:drevil:

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Haha. Nice, Angrist.

Also to the Prof: All the french Canadians I've met have been pretty awesome and the females wildly attractive. My girlfriend also drove through there and said that the French Canadians she met were by and large pretty good people.

*shrug*

Matter of opinion I suppose.

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Then again the french widely and openly hate the Americans, and we're not American, which can be why none of us have ever had problems with them.



So yeah...300...

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Good movie.

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I wonder if they like 300 in Quebec? They might think its a symbol of American military and consumer empiricism and therefore hate it on principle....

****in' FROGS.














By the way, you can all thank me for the 5 page thread later. At least it was something to talk about. And yes, I am devious and evil.

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I had a discussion with one of my arts professors about this film. He was troubled that this kind of movie would be released at this specific time in history with the current world events that are going on and whatnot.

I think his specific problem was he thought the Spartans were supposed to represent America (since this is an American film I guess?) fighting the evil brown guys and that this was something released to encourage young men to enlist.

I totally don't see it that way. Considering the Persians are an imperialist force, the Americans could be just as easily likened to them.

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Well, pretty much any villian in any movie can be likened to the U.S. by those who see America as an evil force in the world. It depends on your world view. I'm more dissdappointed to see professors using a movie depicting events that happened thousands of years ago as an excuse to influence others his or her own opinion.

Honestly, education is dead and indoctrination has replaced it.

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300 was an awesome movie! i loved all the backgrounds! i wonder what the producer guy...whatever his name was will do next...in any case, i will see it.

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The director is doing The Watchmen next, which is supposedly a pretty good comic book/graphic novel.

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It was a conversation, not him preaching.

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Put money up for a project and either drive it into the ground with his own terrible "It's my money, you do it my way" decisions, or not do a thing and take the credit if it wins for Best Picture.

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I've seen the ending about 300 times now. Its so epic and heart-wrenching.

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I cannot see anyone making it into a movie without destroying the material. Perhaps if Alan Moore worked closely with the director like Frank Miller does...but he really does not want this movie made. And can you blame him? All the movie adaptations of his books have been crap.

Man, if they add some 9/11 twist to it...will be mighty pissed. The added America stuff in regard to the current war in V for Vendetta left a bad taste in my mouth.

Rorshach was stuck into a frame of the R-rated trailer for 300:

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I'm looking forward to The Watchmen. If anyone can pull it off it's Hayter, as he is a very good script writer. As for the 9/11 mentions, I think he was more comparing the events in the book with the events that took place on 9/11, rather than adding a modern twist. Hayter was saying that the world is ready for a major film about the subject matter because of 9/11, IMO.

Also, I like the idea of 300's director helming the project, but not because of 300. He directed the Dawn of the Dead remake and it was quite good. That proved he could handle multiple characters and storylines at once without having the entire movie suffer. That makes me more confident than anything in 300.

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If I recall correctly, Moore said that Hayter's screenplay of The Watchmen was the closest it'd probably ever get to being a decent transition from book to film, but he'd still never go see the movie and does not want it made. I think they ditched Hayter's screenplay too, unless Snyder is working from it now, I dunno.


Fun fact: David Hayter is Solid Snake... :sneaky:

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So, its out on DVD. Anyone pick it up yet. I got the special addition yesterday.


THIS IS SPARTA!!!!

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I've been thinking of buying it on HD-DVD, but I don't feel like spending $28 on it because it's the queer HD-DVD/DVD combo.

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It's also got more features than either the special edition DVD or the Blu-ray, by a long shot. Probably has the most features of any HD DVD, ever.