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GameMaster 05-22-2005 05:13 PM

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Why did they?

Ginkasa 05-22-2005 10:04 PM

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He's talkative. They didn't want him sharing some information that could potentially prove damaging to the soon-to-be rebellion. Or whatever.


/me shrugs and walks away

GameMaster 05-22-2005 11:45 PM

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So does that mean he won't remember any of his adventures and his relationship with Anakin in episodes 1-3?

GiMpY-wAnNaBe 05-23-2005 01:21 AM

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exactly, thats why he beats on R2 throughout ANH muttering that he doesn't know who the hell obi wan is and that R2 is a crazy.

Joeiss 05-23-2005 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GiMpY-wAnNaBe
exactly, thats why he beats on R2 throughout ANH muttering that he doesn't know who the hell obi wan is and that R2 is a crazy.

Exactomungo

Crash 05-23-2005 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Acebot44
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Dyne 05-23-2005 03:00 AM

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You know what? I've been doing some thinking. I saw this with Dylflon and Typhoid, by the way.

The only reason this movie is so much better than the others is the fact that Yoda fights more than once. Seeing episode II in theatres, people just laughed at Yoda fighting. Also, seeing Darth Sidious fighting with a lightsaber was an happy surprise.

The ending went by too quick. And it didn't really explain why Anakin got a quasi-british accent all of a sudden. But the voice actor for Vader did a great job of copying Christensen's manner of speech when he spoke for the first time through the machine. It was a nice touch.

Oh, and that "NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" was great. One of the greatest in cinematic history, definitely!

Teuthida 05-23-2005 03:07 AM

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Twas James Earl Jones but he went uncredited for that part.

Dyne 05-23-2005 03:20 AM

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Yeah, he was only credited in Return of the Jedi, right?

At first I thought they just brought in really good voice mixers, hahah. But then it was obvious they brought him back. Too bad he went uncredited.

Teuthida 05-23-2005 03:28 AM

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Yeah. Heard that he felt that voice work wasn't enough to warrant a credit mention and asked to be uncredited for the other movies.

MuGen 05-24-2005 03:20 PM

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I'm surprised Hayden's name wasn't in the credits for Episode VI return of the jedi..

I got the newer 2004 trilogy release and they changed Anakin in the end of Episode VI to Hayden instead of the old guy.... makes the story connect better.



Dark Samurai 05-24-2005 03:33 PM

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First image isnt working...

MuGen 05-24-2005 03:36 PM

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nothing works for your computer DS....

Dark Samurai 05-24-2005 03:40 PM

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Well apperantly not... just make it work...

MuGen 05-24-2005 04:07 PM

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Its there, I can't make something work when it's already working for me.....

Su-Yin 05-24-2005 07:54 PM

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/The...950720606.html
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Two Star Wars fans were critically injured in the UK when they tried to replicate the light sabres used in the movie by filling glass fluorescent light tubes with fuel, police and a news report said today.
...dangerous...

Typhoid 05-24-2005 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Happydudette



I didnt see that part of the movie. :confused:






Anyways, to back up my previous statement, I think this one makes up for the crap filled mind numbing experience of the first two.


What sort of bugs me, is that the first 3, are spaced out over many many many years, and the last 3 are only a mere fraction compared to the time between Episodes I, II and III.

GameMaster 05-24-2005 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Happydudette

Wow, those Star War fans were pretty mindless. They must've been too cheap to buy replicas or use computer editing.

Ginkasa 05-24-2005 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid
What sort of bugs me, is that the first 3, are spaced out over many many many years, and the last 3 are only a mere fraction compared to the time between Episodes I, II and III.


Well, its only really the time between Episodes I and II that is really long. In the original trilogy, there are three years in between IV and V, and one year in between V and VI, so the three years in between II and III isn't very extraordinary... Its the 10 years in ebwteen I and II that throws it off...

What Lucas should have done was start the trilogy with Episode II. Everything in Episode I was hardly necessary to understand the saga as a whole. We didn't have to see where Han met Chewie in the original trilogy, we don't need to see where Obi-Wan met Anakin or where Anakin met Padmé, etc. There would have to be more explanation of Anakin in the opening scroll, and then more explanation of the Separatists within the movie, but it would have worked better with the trilogy overall...

Then Episode III should have been split in two. One focusing more on Anakin's corruption; the next on him actually turning into Darth Vader.

It would have been better.


/me shrugs and walks away

DeathsHand 05-24-2005 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Link1130
Well, its only really the time between Episodes I and II that is really long. In the original trilogy, there are three years in between IV and V, and one year in between V and VI, so the three years in between II and III isn't very extraordinary... Its the 10 years in ebwteen I and II that throws it off...

What Lucas should have done was start the trilogy with Episode II. Everything in Episode I was hardly necessary to understand the saga as a whole. We didn't have to see where Han met Chewie in the original trilogy, we don't need to see where Obi-Wan met Anakin or where Anakin met Padmé, etc. There would have to be more explanation of Anakin in the opening scroll, and then more explanation of the Separatists within the movie, but it would have worked better with the trilogy overall...

Then Episode III should have been split in two. One focusing more on Anakin's corruption; the next on him actually turning into Darth Vader.

It would have been better.


* Link1130 shrugs and walks away

Me and my friend were discussing that the other day, and basically came up with the exact same idea you did...

Mostly based on Episode I being faaaairly pointless to the overall plot, and Anakin's turn to the dark side (after he actually became Darth Vader) going by just a little too fast...

Ginkasa 05-24-2005 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsHand
Me and my friend were discussing that the other day, and basically came up with the exact same idea you did...

Mostly based on Episode I being faaaairly pointless to the overall plot, and Anakin's turn to the dark side (after he actually became Darth Vader) going by just a little too fast...


Yeah, I think its a pretty obvious solution and general consensus by those who think about it...


/me shrugs and walks away

Fox 6 05-25-2005 12:21 AM

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Super great movie! The NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! was great. That Lizard did get annoying after awhile. I enjoyed the progresstion of technology and designs to what we are all familiar with from the originals.
That has to be the best field trip I have ever been on.

Crash 05-25-2005 03:47 AM

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Field trip eh?

Solid snake and I are hard at work, crafting a clone trooper helmet. We are still is the carving a mold stage, I'll take pictures at a later date when it doesn't just look like a block of plaster.

Professor S 05-25-2005 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sony
I'm surprised Hayden's name wasn't in the credits for Episode VI return of the jedi..

I got the newer 2004 trilogy release and they changed Anakin in the end of Episode VI to Hayden instead of the old guy.... makes the story connect better.



Thats friggin' IT. I'm sick of Lucas going back and crapping on his earlier work. You can't find the original, non-cg Star Wars movies anymore, and now he goes ahead and simply starts changing the actors in his movies. Honestly, how little respect for his audience does he have if he can't trust that we will be able to suspend disbelief long enough to realize that the older Anakin is just that... AN OLDER ANAKIN.

George Lucas has lost his goddamn mind; but I'm a film purist so I might think its a bigger deal than most people.

DeathsHand 05-25-2005 03:06 PM

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Thats friggin' IT. I'm sick of Lucas going back and crapping on his earlier work. You can't find the original, non-cg Star Wars movies anymore, and now he goes ahead and simply starts changing the actors in his movies. Honestly, how little respect for his audience does he have if he can't trust that we will be able to suspend disbelief long enough to realize that the older Anakin is just that... AN OLDER ANAKIN.

George Lucas has lost his goddamn mind; but I'm a film purist so I might think its a bigger deal than most people.

That ghost isn't supposed to be an older Anakin which technically didn't even exist, it's supposed to be Anakin the last time he was actually Anakin...

And you're flipping out over a 'role' that's basically just shoved in at the end of Return of the Jedi...

Now if they altered the actually non-ghost Anakin (his head in the suit) to be Hayden Chirsitneinensen with a bunch of makeup on, then maybe I'd flip out and curse George Lucas with you...

Crash 05-25-2005 03:16 PM

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i'd like if they did that

Professor S 05-25-2005 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsHand
And you're flipping out over a 'role' that's basically just shoved in at the end of Return of the Jedi...

No, I'm flipping out over how Lucas has gone back and changed all of his original movies by adding in special effects, most of which look entirely out of place. Now every time I see the original movies, all I see is what he pointlessly added and it ruins the experience for me.

Changing the ending of ROTJ is just the final straw. I want to see the original movies that Lucas made and that I fell in love with as a kid, not his reworkings of them. For a rediculous comparison, its like Michaelangelo going back in his old age and adding arms on David or DaVinci adding eye brows to the Mona Lisa. That would be a desecration of their own work.

The main thing I'm angry at is that Lucas won't even give us the option. He won't let us buy the untouched originals, because he's arrogant enough to say to his consumer that we can only see what he wants us to see, regardless of which version we prefer.

Its infuriating, and once again I am a film purist so that is why I hate these
desecrated versions of the originals.

Teuthida 05-25-2005 07:03 PM

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David...with no arms you say?



Didn't even realize Mona Lisa was without eyebrows till you mentioned it.


Anywhoo, if I had a phone that supported polyphonic ringtones mine would be the sounds that lizard makes. Oh how sweet that would be.

Professor S 05-26-2005 12:23 AM

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Oh crap, thats right. David does have arms. It was Venus (I think) that had no arms, and if I remember correctly they were actually knocked off by accident or something, so lets just stick with the Mona Lisa comparison as that one actually makes sense. ;) :D

Still, I believe my point has some validity, even if I'm a fine art philistine. :D

Crash 05-27-2005 11:53 AM

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http://darthno.ytmnd.com/

http://darthdolenz.ytmnd.com/

http://unitedstatesofno.ytmnd.com/

http://cnnoooooooo.ytmnd.com/


:rofl: :rofl: :lol: :lol:

MuGen 05-27-2005 12:35 PM

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Oh crap, thats right. David does have arms. It was Venus (I think) that had no arms, and if I remember correctly they were actually knocked off by accident or something, so lets just stick with the Mona Lisa comparison as that one actually makes sense. ;) :D

Still, I believe my point has some validity, even if I'm a fine art philistine. :D

It does have some validity to it, but there are some younger audiences that started the series on Episode I, and then bought IV, V, and VI to complete the story. For those people it's good to see the ANAKIN they saw, in Episode VI.

Besides, the real story behind it is that it is supposed to show the form of which they are last a Jedi. And seeing as Anakin turned the darkside at a young age, it's almost validated to show that young Anakin in the end of Episode VI.

If your a film purist, you should OWN the originals already and shouldn't have to worry about the remastered versions. But in any case, I understand your point of view. But for those who started on Episode I, it's better to see an Anakin you can recognize in Episode VI....

GameMaster 05-27-2005 03:18 PM

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OMFG! :rofl:

Bube 05-27-2005 03:48 PM

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[Spoiler ahead]

I just watched it today. I really think it's the best SW movie, with the dark theme and all.

But one thing I didn't understand is, why did the clones go dark? Something I missed in II, maybe? Sifo Dyas was dark as well? Anybody?

Dyne 05-27-2005 03:56 PM

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The clones were under control of the empire. The Jedi were able to fight alongside, because beforehand, they were WITH the empire.

But then the emporer turned everyone against the jedi, namely the clones. It's like the US government turning the Army/Navy/Airforce against the FBI, or something.

MuGen 05-27-2005 04:07 PM

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It wasn't the Empire... it was the Galactic Republic. The Emperor or.. Sideous created a plot that incriminated the JEDI for trying to overthrow the Republic, namely the Supreme Senator. If you heard once Anakin turned, he holo'd every Clone and said,

"Every single Jedi is now... an Enemy of the Republic"

And as the senate went into hiding, Sideous gained supreme power over the Republic, making it a Imperialist kingdom, thus Empire.

Bube 05-27-2005 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dyne
The clones were under control of the empire. The Jedi were able to fight alongside, because beforehand, they were WITH the empire.

But then the emporer turned everyone against the jedi, namely the clones. It's like the US government turning the Army/Navy/Airforce against the FBI, or something.

Oh. Ok. Thanks.

I can't believe I couldn't understand that.

DeathsHand 05-27-2005 05:01 PM

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And as the senate went into hiding, Sideous gained supreme power over the Republic, making it a Imperialist kingdom, thus Empire.

The Senate didn't go into hiding... The Emperor needed them to help maintain control over some of the systems... In Episodes IV there are still talks of the senate...

"LEIA: I don't know what you're talking about. I'm a member of the
Imperial Senate on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan..."

They talk about how the Rebellion will continue to gain support in the Senate, and then finally:

"TARKIN: The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us.
I've just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council
permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept
away."

Professor S 05-27-2005 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sony
Besides, the real story behind it is that it is supposed to show the form of which they are last a Jedi. And seeing as Anakin turned the darkside at a young age, it's almost validated to show that young Anakin in the end of Episode VI.

But if this is true, wouldn't Darth have been a Jedi or again be Anakin when he saved his son and destroyed the Emporer in Return of the Jedi? In tat case, he should be shown as an old man. In any case, I don't think the point was worth changing to begin with. Its just George wanting to constantly tinker with his original, far superior, works.

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If your a film purist, you should OWN the originals already and shouldn't have to worry about the remastered versions. But in any case, I understand your point of view. But for those who started on Episode I, it's better to see an Anakin you can recognize in Episode VI....
The original versions were never made available on DVD, only on VHS, and the last VHS releases before DVD were of his reworked versions. I did have them on VHS, but they are just about worn out. I would like them on DVD, but George does not want US to have them.

DeathsHand 05-27-2005 06:51 PM

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Oh come now, Strangler, you know George Lucas will release an ultimate edition DVD box set once ROTS is out on DVD...

Featuring the originals, the special editions, the prequels, and the special edition remakes of the prequels that they were secretly working on all along....

And the christmas special...

Ginkasa 05-27-2005 07:26 PM

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There probably won't be a big special 6 episode DVD release until 2007, the 30th anniversary of ANH. And it most certainly won't have the Holiday Special. Or the original versions. Or even the versions we have now. It will probably have a little bit more tinkering (say, digital Yoda replacing the puppet in I, V, and VI?0 and stuff.

Although you were probably being sarcastic...


/me shrugs and walks away


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