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Joeiss 08-14-2004 01:02 AM

Re: Who works out?
 
Leg Press means nothing when your saying how much you can lift, IMO. I think squats are a much better way to tell of somebody's leg strength.

Ace195 08-14-2004 03:39 AM

Re: Who works out?
 
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Originally Posted by Joeiss
Leg Press means nothing when your saying how much you can lift, IMO. I think squats are a much better way to tell of somebody's leg strength.

Agree leg lifts are at a 75% incline so they don't actually tell you how much you can lift. Squats on the other hand and power presses are something entirely diffrent they tell you if your upper and lower body are in good condition.. Another good thing to check your total body is hangclean and dead lift.


Bench doesn't mean much aside from ooh I loook perdy.. In highschool I was able to lift 225 max . But I could squat 375.. and could power press 270. What I do now isn't about the weight because that doesn't really build muscle nearly as well as reps do. Now (if I work out) I do reps to 100 with 25 pounds. (again if I can get to 100 props to me) In 1 min sets.. I'm not in the best physical condition but I beat alot of guys that are younger than me.. And typhoid before you go dissin on stu post a picture of yourself because I hate a person who can't back up their claims.

GameMaster 08-14-2004 03:46 AM

Re: Who works out?
 
I have this friend who's in good shape and he started doing push-ups this summer but his arms aren't getting big. Could this be because of genetics? Will some people's arms remain skinny no matter what? Oh also, my friend has been doing sit-ups and while his stomach is lean and has little fat, it isn't getting ripped, and he can't get a six pack to become apparent. Any advice for him?

Ace195 08-14-2004 03:52 AM

Re: Who works out?
 
Have him get on some sort of Mass gaining supplement. And pushups are more for toning than making your arms big if he wants to get big have him hit the gym and hit it hard doing bicep excersizes. Bench is more of a chest and bicep.. (more chest) curls work mainly on bicep and tricep have him try that. and remember mass building without steriods will do wonders for him if he wants to get that strong "big"

Typhoid 08-14-2004 04:14 AM

Re: Who works out?
 
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Originally Posted by Ace195
And typhoid before you go dissin on stu post a picture of yourself because I hate a person who can't back up their claims.



Calm down buddy. You dont have to minus rep me for joking around, oh wait, you already did. And i never said my arms were huge. All said is what the picture looked like IMO, and i stand by my claim. Im not saying i have huge arms, i was joking around and saying it looked like he pushed his arm fat to the side to make his arms look bigger.

Joeiss 08-14-2004 11:37 AM

Re: Who works out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GameMaster
I have this friend who's in good shape and he started doing push-ups this summer but his arms aren't getting big. Could this be because of genetics? Will some people's arms remain skinny no matter what? Oh also, my friend has been doing sit-ups and while his stomach is lean and has little fat, it isn't getting ripped, and he can't get a six pack to become apparent. Any advice for him?

Your buddy doing pushups shouldn't expect his arms to get big. Pushups concentrate on the chest muscle, and give a secondary workout to your triceps. Your freinds is probably trying to flex his biceps, and isn't seeing anything. Try any type of curls, and you'll see your biceps grow. But don't forget about the triceps, because they take up 2/3 of your arms. And pushups are definitely not enough for tricep development. Try dips, skullcrushers, one arm extensions and close grips presses.

Genetics do not come into play when you aren't even working out the biceps. Try different variations of situps to pack on the muscle. And if you want to get big, you gotta eat big. Diet is the key to getting lean and growing muscle.

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Originally Posted by Ace195
Have him get on some sort of Mass gaining supplement. And pushups are more for toning than making your arms big if he wants to get big have him hit the gym and hit it hard doing bicep excersizes. Bench is more of a chest and bicep.. (more chest) curls work mainly on bicep and tricep have him try that. and remember mass building without steriods will do wonders for him if he wants to get that strong "big"

Mass gaining supplements aren't the greatest. Try fixing up his diet first. Do you mean bench hits triceps or biceps? Because it definitely does not hit biceps. And curls do not work triceps at all, either.

And yes, steroids do not have to be taken. The only time I support it is when a person has reached their genetic limit while being natural, and nobody knows their true limits.

Perfect Stu 08-14-2004 12:55 PM

Re: Who works out?
 
dont have a digital camera, Typh. If you think that's fat you see on my arms, then I dont know what to say other than you're wrong.

Typhoid 08-14-2004 02:03 PM

Re: Who works out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Stu
dont have a digital camera, Typh. If you think that's fat you see on my arms, then I dont know what to say other than you're wrong.


My god. I was joking. i could honestly care less if someone i talk to over an internet game forum has big arms, small arms, muscly arms, or fat arms. Who really cares?This is the most pointless argument i have ever seen, and for one, i am done with it.

Perfect Stu 08-14-2004 02:26 PM

Re: Who works out?
 
hey man it's cool...but you did start it

Joeiss 08-14-2004 02:35 PM

Re: Who works out?
 
While reading this.. I didn't view it as an arguement at all. Cheer up, people!

Ace195 08-14-2004 05:51 PM

Re: Who works out?
 
Agree I said and I quote

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And typhoid before you go dissin on stu post a picture of yourself because I hate a person who can't back up their claims.
I was sayin don't hate. And joeiss I agree diet would improve his mass gain but not nearly as much as a supplement would. :)

Mushlafa 08-14-2004 07:04 PM

Re: Who works out?
 
actually i think if he all of a sudden started to eat the way your sappose to eat when your trying to pack on the muscle than it would be more helpful than just a mass gaining supplement alone... of coarse if you comebine them both it just gets better.

and ACE benching hits the Chest triceps and interior delts ( shoulders ) and i think biceps are just used as a stabalizer or summin... whenever im done a hardcore chest day my biceps feel tight afterwards.

GameMaster if your friend wants a 6 pack hes gotta work at it forever and tell him to try throwing in other cardio excersizes to trim some of the fat that may be overlieing the 6 pack underneath.

And stu doesnt look like a guy id mess with. Il be honest and say that i havent but nearely as much work into my legs as my upperbody but its because ive got a bad back so im a little bit scared to do a lot of the excersizes and my pretty bad case of flat feet gives me some pretty bad balance when i bend down its harder for me to stay on my feet.

Joeiss 08-14-2004 08:29 PM

Re: Who works out?
 
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Originally Posted by Ace195
I was sayin don't hate. And joeiss I agree diet would improve his mass gain but not nearly as much as a supplement would. :)

You are definitely mistaken. Food is a much better source for protein than whey is. Post work out, whey is the better choice, but for every other meal, steak, chicken, tuna, etc are much better choices.

There are many people who do not take supplements who are JACKED.

Dyne 08-14-2004 08:32 PM

Re: Who works out?
 
I do not take supplements. I don't take any vitamins. If you eat right, you're good to go. Of course, genes really help.

The only problem I have with weightlifting is working on my definition. I guess it's a long term thing, but it's the only problem I have. I'm working on it like crazy. I don't care if I have large muscles (I'm stocky naturally) but I would kill for some definition.

Joeiss 08-15-2004 02:39 AM

Re: Who works out?
 
Definition is from body fat percentage.

Get it low to see them definition.


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