Re: PSP and long-term Third Party support IMO will be more than that of the DS
 

Well PSP will have the possibility to handle games like Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, Kingdom Hearts...

The DS won't... It has nothing but a changed control scheme.

We are still getting the same Mario 64, Mario Kart, and Metroid Prime.

People call the DS innovative... but I haven't seen anything innovative... Gameplay remains the same.

Metal Gear Ac!d a game that actually tries to do something different gets bashed... yet Mario64x4 doesn't...

I believe a superiour media storage is much more important than a touchscreen.

Music and song with words VS Midi synthisizer...

Even a game like Final Fantasy 7 wouldn't be able to fit on the DS...

Even though the DS does offer new features, it also limits developers in many more ways.

Re: PSP and long-term Third Party support IMO will be more than that of the DS
 

even tho I'm tired of these threads, I have to make my opinion coherent.

Opinion Starts now:
There should be no talk about Nintendo delivering innovation first of all.... Their only innovation was the NES system, because it was the first. After that they kept on doing the same thing over and over again, and I guess the Nintendo fanboys bought into the market. Let's look at the trend:

NES: Mario, Zelda, Metroid
SNES: Mario, Zelda, Killer Instinct (One innovation), Metroid
N64: Mario, Zelda, Smash Brothers, Mario Kart, Metroid
GC: Mario, Zelda, Smash Brothers Melee, Mario Kart, Metroid
DS: Mario, Zelda, Smash Brothers (possibly), Mario Kart again, Metroid.

We're seeing same old games, newer version, spruced up gfx. That's the case for many consoles out there.....however.... PSP bridges that gap when they decided to offer movies, mp3's.

So ... every console out there has there "HOT SHOT GAMES" and will stick with them, with newer versions, and spiced up gfx.... the only thing that makes the PSP stand out is it's versatility."
End Opinion

Re: PSP and long-term Third Party support IMO will be more than that of the DS
 

which games are going to be more expensive?

Re: PSP and long-term Third Party support IMO will be more than that of the DS
 

I think you are getting innovative confused, though I admit they aren't as creative as everyone says. It refers more to their hardware and gameplay advances.

Super Nintendo was the first console (to my knowledge atleast) which features Shoulder buttons, which are now staples of any major console.

Nintendo 64 introduced the rumble Pak, Sony improved it with the Dual Shock, again rumble is almost in very major controller or an accessory for it (only one I can think of is the WaveBird, but it would drain batteries).

Mario 64 well not the first real 3D game, was the first one done right, and with tons of recognition. After that, it became also mandotary to do 3d.

Zelda 64 featured Z-Lock which really helped with combat in 3D games.


GameBoy....
GameBoy has several versions of Final Fantasy
GameBoy has Metal Gear Sold
GameBoy is getting a Kingdom Heart.

You may mean it could handle it more faithfully then GBA in the sense it would be similar to it's console counterpart. But then it falls into the category of why bother?

And controls can't make all the difference? 2 buttons could make a world of difference....


No one is denying that Nintendo is throwing everything new out there.

Of course you would know this since you played it. I haven't played it either, but the dual screen does make for some differences. I think the more popular example is the submarine demo in which one screen showed the image and the other was the dial which was touch screen.

Also the Pac-Atack demo.

I'm trying to see how a card game is doing something different.
It may be different for the franchise, but different doesn't always equate wise.
As for Mario 64X4, while it's true I don't see it being bashed, I also don't see it being praised so it's not really doing much.

It is and it isn't.
First off define "superior" for a handheld, I personally believe a cart is more durable, and thus far superior in portability.
If you mean space wise, it would help for longer games, and other stuff. But that's not the point of handhelds. You want a pick up and play game. The type of game that keeps you enterained for 10 minutes on the buse to school or 3 hours on the car ride when you visit your Aunt Ester.

Well this is all personal taste, but eh.
Honestly, I won't be blasting any handhelds while I'm using it. Most people I know don't either. They either have the sound extremely low or wearing headphones. The effort may be lost for the most part.

Now, I don't know if you mean it won't be able to fit because you can't it wouldn't fit on a cart or becuase of the music and movies.
And it comes to my biggest concern, I don't want friggin cutscenes in my games on handhelds. I get fed up as it is with long text dialogue. The point of a handheld is to waste time, not for it to waste your time. I don't wanna sit there for 5 minutes watching some movie trying to explain some plot point that probably won't pay off anyhow. That and from what I've heard, it drains battery faster.

I don't see how it limits developers other than cosmetically.

I mean sure it doesn't have analog support, but they've made due for the last 15 years or so, and I don't see them complainin now do I?

Re: PSP and long-term Third Party support IMO will be more than that of the DS
 

PSP's control scheme is nothing new either. Just removed 2 shoulder buttons and a joystick ;);)

For everything else. I don't feel like taking time to reply...I think BaB did it for me:p

Re: PSP and long-term Third Party support IMO will be more than that of the DS
 

They could still add an analog control thingy.... I saw movies of M64x4 but they guy thta played it, couldn't even jump on a goomba... perhaps because of the digital controlls?

http://www.cube-europe.com/movies/wariowareDS_.wmv
That's something I mean. Something we've never played. Not just a combination of game elements...

Re: PSP and long-term Third Party support IMO will be more than that of the DS
 

Didn't they show pictures of PSP having the Analog Stick? and the shoulders buttons arte present, I've seen them on a pic somwhere

Re: PSP and long-term Third Party support IMO will be more than that of the DS
 

Just to clarify. I never said they removed all 4 shoulder buttons. Only said they removed 2 and also, I said there is an analog stick. I said only 1 because reg. PS(2) controls have 2 sticks.

And also, the DS shown isn't a final look. After Nintendo saw the PSP, they are probably redoing the shell of the DS to be more sleek then the blah grey we saw. And also, there is room to add an analog stick in so I'm hoping they do.