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quite mike's post:

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Sex outside of marriage is what it's wrong in any ways you put it. You might not accept it but it is. If it wasn't nobody talked about it.

The biggest problem with what most people think is this LOVE = Good Sex
Which is the dumbest thing ever. It makes unwanted pregnancies, teenage suicides, teenage parents, dropouts, misserable lives, divorce, lust, broken families, shildren without both parents and many other things. All come from believing that Love means good sex.

What happens when the person is not able to provide good sex? Is the love gone?

Really?? Then why the hell is it such an honor to be a virgin on the wedding day? Why did they invented marriages since the metal age?

Love comes before zex and lasts long after it. If it's not true for you then I'm sorry for your whife.

I am a virgin at 22 and am damn proud of it. I am proud that I managed to keep myself from destroying my future marriage. I don't know who I'll marry as of now, but be sure she'll be a virgin too. That's the best and only thing a husband can give to his whife and a whife can give to his husband. Anything else (money, house, car) any posetion can be given, taken or somehow become the possetion of someone else.

We are born naked and we die naked, and as such only our virginity is ours with our body. This is THE thing that we decide when we give up and to whoom. That's why I consider Rape to be a more horrifying crime then even murder, since it takes away something that can never be returned even if the Rapist goes straight to police.

You say sex after marriage is a complete joke? Why? Cuz you weren't as strong as us to wait. So now that you crossed the line to the other side try to put the blame on us that are still waiting? If that's not your intent be sure that it is the intent of millions of teenagers in the High Schools of the world, which now by peer presure have sex and then try to blame not their peers that make them go into it, but the peers that are waiting and stay clean. It's working great here in US and probably everywhere but not with me. I'll always be proud of holding back, and I'll always know that I am right in being so, no matter what others may say or laugh. Theur laugh stays only for minutes. My virginity has been for over 22 years and I'm not going to give it up just to stop a laugh.

P.S. I haven't said anything about what the Bible says, but you wouldn't care

Fez's post:

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I am a virgin at 22 and am damn proud of it. I am proud that I managed to keep myself from destroying my future marriage. I don't know who I'll marry as of now, but be sure she'll be a virgin too. That's the best and only thing a husband can give to his whife and a whife can give to his husband. Anything else (money, house, car) any posetion can be given, taken or somehow become the possetion of someone else.

We are born naked and we die naked, and as such only our virginity is ours with our body. This is THE thing that we decide when we give up and to whoom. That's why I consider Rape to be a more horrifying crime then even murder, since it takes away something that can never be returned even if the Rapist goes straight to police.

Virginty is subjective anyway, when does someone officially lose their virginity? I can't be when the hymein is broken, because then a dildo could take place as a man. and a mans virginity?

A virginity is nothing. It's a barrier protecting your from better things. It's like the wrapping on a sweet chrissy present, it looks nice and has a mystical feeling too it, but what's inside is far more tastier. Terrible analogy, but I couldn't think of anything better.

sdtPikachu's post:

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Hey ho, back into the fore...

"Well, in my opinion - having sex before you're an adult is a mistake."

How do you define "adult"? What is the magical age where you pass from being alone and inexperienced about everything to having a full and total understanding of your whole being?

Personlly, I think the "correct" age to have sex is the one where you're able to handle the emotional and physical consequences.

As most of you will know, I don't have any religious obligations to perform thus this is purely what I think.

I don't believe in marriage - in my opinion it's just another way in which organised religion a) tried to create a stable society and b) attempted to control natural sexual urges. We are sexual beings. We are not designed to have sex with only one person in our entire lives. It is counter to what sex is all about; the sex drive is an evolutionary throwback to spreading your mucky little genes about as much as possible.

I've met people 14 years old who I'd say were ready for sex; they are emotionaly responsible, have done alot of thinking about it and want to do it for all thr right reasons. I've also met people over 30 who still haven't attained what I see as enough responsibility.

Sex isn't just about kids; like it or not, it's an essential part of every relationship I know of. In fact, much as I disagree with them, there are many I know who consider sex to be the most important thing in one.

"Sex before marriage is wrong in any ways you put it"

Wrong. This is not a fact; it is an opinion, and one I disagree with. Until you've found yourself in bed with someone in that way, you'll never know what it feels like will you? I know plenty of people who've changed their minds about people after sex; not because the sex was bad, or even because the sex was good, but because it's when you see someone totally exposed to you in every way possible - in many respects, this is what can be so sexy about the whole thing. Take away the orgasm and sex would still be great. It's not just all about having a good f**k - anyone who thinks that is, in my opinion, not emotionally mature enough.

Mike, I don't think good sex = love or vice versa; I've managed to fall in love without ever having sex with someone. Love is a helluva lot more than a bit of the old inowt inowt.

Pregnancies? Like Fez says, almost all are due to people being stupid and not taking precautions; if you don't want to be bogged down with 57 kids by the age of 20, always ALWAYS use a condom. It'll also help you prevent yourself from catching any nasty STD's (waits for joke... gets none... moves on).

Once you're in a stable relationship, I think it's OK for the guy to dispense with the condom if his girl is on the pill; most partners prefer sex without a condom, but remember just one missed pill can cause a pregnancy, and it's either the not-very-nice maorning after pill or the even more not-very-nice of an abortion; either that or you've got a sprog on your hands.

If you do have unprotected sex, just make sure both you and your partner get a blood test done. I don't know what it's like with the crappy health system in the states, but here they are free. If any nasty diseases are lurking in your nether regions, a simple test will tell you or not. It's not a good idea to give the girl you love a dose of chlamydia if you want the relationship to continue.

"you need to think about what could happen"

Yes, you do.

"most parents probably wouldn't approve."

Usually cos they're too worried about their offsprings current emotional maturity. This is a poor excuse; my parents brought me up to be independent, and they trust my judgement over matteras concerning me.

"Meh, i dont think its a big deal"

I totally agree. Modern society has souped sex up to be all sorts of things; one thing it isn't is the be all and end all, although there's many advertising companies who'd like to persuade you otherwise. Sex is just a way of making babies; the orgasm is just to get you to keep doing it.

The whole point about relationships is that they're relationships. Note the lack of the words "sex" and "life" from that last sentence.

"Shooting blanks is wrong"

Umm... what do you mean by this? That wearing a condom is wrong? Or that you don't think a guy should have sex if he's infertile?

In either case I find it impossible to see your POV.

"I'll always be proud of holding back..."

Good for you; if it's your choice, stick with it.

"...and I'll always know that I am right in being so"

Only in your opinion I'm afraid. This isn't a "black and white" issue.

"Pregnancys come from stupid ****s, and we shouldn't have to have laws because of stupid ****s"

In an ideal world, yes. But unfortunately the laws are to try to stop the stupid ****s from themselves; everyone who's capable of thinking for themselves gets shafted in the process. Such is the way of the world I'm afraid.

Hello again everyone by the way; I appear to be back in customary incendiary style!

Nice to be back (temporarily at the very least!)

sdtPikachu is totaly right...i agree with him 100000000%

i hope that what im about to say doesnt get out of GT!

when i was 14...i slept with a girl, but i didnt have sex...y am i telling you this...because like Pikachu said it is our choice, and if we're ready then why hold back?

me and my EX:( :( :( were reely happy with each other, and we wouldve still been together if i hadnt moved from that city!

so...sex should be your choice, and you choice alone, i thknk that you'll know when your ready...and your partner will too, if your partner isnt ready then dont push him/her!

my advise is that you have protection when having sex, and make sure you AND YOUR PARTNER are ready!

that is all...

No one can really argue this topic. because everyones post is an opinion, and opinions arent wrong or right.

HOWEVER, In my opinion, I think that sex before marraige is wrong.

Well, this is exactly what the topic is about - people's opinions.

I personally like hearing what people have to say about certain topics, especially ones that I'm interested in.

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Originally posted by TheGrimReaper
No one can really argue this topic. because everyones post is an opinion, and opinions arent wrong or right.

HOWEVER, In my opinion, I think that sex before marraige is wrong.

Umm... aren't almost all arguments/debates just differences of opinion...?

I'm not saying that sex before marriage is wrong, I just don't agree with it myself. If you want to go ahead and never shag until you've got a nice mortgage and a dog, then fine, go ahead.

What I have a problem with is when other people try to enforce their moral standards onto me. That really f***s me off. I think it's a descision that should be personal, and people shouldn't look down their noses at others for not following the same rules as they do.

But then if everyone did that, the world might actually be a nice place... can't have that, can we?

Yeah I see your point Pikachu.