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Wow, 8 against and 5 for. That's about 38% of voters who support the death penalty so far, not to shabby. I'm not trying to single anyone out but I'm curious who voted for "Yes" and if they are serious and why they support the death penalty.
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I support the death penalty under certain circumstances. But I think how its handled in most cases now is broken.
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If there's a serial killer who enjoys daily ass rape then sure, kill em.
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In all seriousness though, that's not being very empathetic. =/ |
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A one off murder I wouldn't give the death penalty as a sentence. A serial killer with no remorse who just keeps killing shouldn't be allowed to live. I just threw in the rape part jokingly because a lifelong sentence wouldn't be so bad for him if he enjoyed the benefits of prison.
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Even if a serial killer had no remorse, I wouldn't feel confident deciding if he has the right to live.
Perhaps neurotic/psychotic/anti-social tendencies are inborn. Or maybe serial killers were beat or abused as young children. I would support solitary confinement. The US prison system is bullshit. We send way too many people to prison for small drug chargers and minor offenses. We really should just make these people do community service. We could lower the prison costs and get rid of death row and keep the real killers incarcerated for life. I'm also for getting rid of parole, especially for serial killers or first degree murder that was clearly intentional. |
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See that's another reason I suggested the death penalty. I dunno if it's just me, but if I were to be sent to prison I'd much much prefer solitary confinement. Although if this hypothetical killer would just attack other inmates I suppose solitary confinement would be best if you don't want him killed. Some people just deserve to die...but I see how it can get hazy as a government sanctioned death. We need another Australia to sent convicts to. Mars?
You're right about prison for the small drug chargers. As far as the US prison compares to the rest of the world, I don't know enough about other countries' prisons. I know in a lot of Asian countries marijuana is a much bigger offense than it is here for example. |
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I hope some day in the future we have a better way to store prisoners. Maybe we will even have robot guards and a couple of head humans watching over the place. If I had the choice of Death Penalty vs. Solitary Confinement or many years getting assraped in a dirty facility while eating shitty food....I dunno, I'd probably go with the first to be honest. =/ That's my rational for not zapping these guys, let them think about their crimes while taking it up the butt. :D |
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Personally I dont have a big problem with the death penalty, I think some people dont deserve to live. That may sound harsh but its what I believe, some people are just that terrible. |
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Think of someone you love who is under the age of 18 (boy or girl), and lets say that there is video evidence of a man on trial brutaly raping the kid then killing them, and then selling the videos over the internet and making money off of it. And in the courtroom they are 100% unremorseful for it, and claims they enjoyed it and would do it again if they had the chance. Would you feel like that guy deserves a chance at life? What would you consider a fitting penalty for that? |
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In the future, death row convicts will fight in gladiator arenas for our amusement.
Go ahead. Quote me on that. |
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Also, the main reasoning behind the death penalty isn't that it is appropriate punishment, but that it is a deterrent. Maybe it used to be a deterrent, but it's so behind closed doors now that it's almost mythic in character. If it were made public, perhaps it would deter, but then we'd have something more abhorrent than I'd like to comprehend. You don't have to kill someone to take their life. A lifetime of hard labor can be punsihment enough. Keep in mind, I'm also for alternative punishments as well. Say, if a child molester elects to castrate himself for parole, I'm all for it. The goal should be to correct and/or prevent behavior, not to apply vengeance. |
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Well, lets just say that's one of those situations where human's "animal nature" comes out. You're not going to be able to think straight, trust me. Here's what I think the problems are: 1) The death penalty has been given to people who are innocent. 2) The alternative to death (going to prison) is not harsh enough punishment for some crimes. Here's what I think the solutions would be: 1) Death penalty should only be reserved for crimes that are public displays, and that are caught on tape. And when its sentanced it should hapen quickly, instead of allowing the govt to waste tons of money on keeping them on death row. 2) If someone is found guilty of a crime that gives them a life sentance.. we should have much harder prisons that are harsh enough to give the prisoner the illusion that they're dead. No visitation, no TV, no reading, no socializing, just a bed, 4 walls, and 3 meals. No parole, either. 3) IF someone is found guilty and sentanced to a life sentance and they're eventually found to be innocent of the crime. The government should provide some type of aide to the prisoner for the rest of their life because this occurance is the result of a broken judgement system. That's just my opinions on it. I value human life just as much as the next guy, but some people do deserve to die. |
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I guess in the end, the death penalty has proven itself to have zero effect as a deterrent (violent crime and murder rates have risen over time and use of the death penalty), so what is the point of the action? Once again, you can have someone put away for life with the same effect (he/she never commits the crime again). Anything else is a grotesque vengeance fantasy, IMO, and one where mistakes can and will be made. |
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