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GameMaster 09-26-2008 09:46 PM

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This is more uncomfortable than that Mary Tyler Moore reunion on Oprah!

Bond 09-26-2008 09:47 PM

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Actually, Great Britain and France drew most of those "imaginary lines," not America. The issues in the Middle East are much more complex than simply the border forming post-World War I.

This is still an extremely awkward debate.

I honestly want to close my eyes.

Vampyr 09-26-2008 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bond (Post 239527)
Actually, Great Britain and France drew most of those "imaginary lines," not America. The issues in the Middle East are much more complex than simply the border forming post-World War I.

This is still an extremely awkward debate.

I honestly want to close my eyes.


...I never said America. I said the West.

Yes, it is, but it's naive and stupid to say that isn't an issue. It is a fundamental flaw, and one of the roots of the problem.

Vampyr 09-26-2008 09:53 PM

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And where the is McCain's lapel pin?

Bond 09-26-2008 09:59 PM

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BlueFire 09-26-2008 10:05 PM

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Maybe it's just me, but..

addressing the Iran question with a reference to the Holocaust. That was just classy.

Vampyr 09-26-2008 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BLueFire (Post 239531)
Maybe it's just me, but..

addressing the Iran question with a reference to the Holocaust. That was just classy.

Ahhh, we paused my TV for about 5 minutes a while back.

I was like, "WTH is BF talking about?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

it's not just for the internets anymore!

Fyacin 09-26-2008 10:38 PM

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I thought Mcain did a good job.

Vampyr 09-26-2008 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fyacin (Post 239533)
I thought Mcain did a good job.

:rofl:

BlueFire 09-26-2008 10:42 PM

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I'm not really sure what I think of the debate.. I have to post about it later when I think about it more

GameMaster 09-26-2008 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fyacin (Post 239533)
I thought Mcain did a good job.

I couldn't agree more.

He really pounded Obama for his lack of experience.

Plus, McCain already knows our world's leaders both near and far.

Bond 09-26-2008 10:54 PM

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This was a very poor debate. McCain's and Obama's personalities simply do not mesh into a smooth discussion. It's rigid, awkward, and odd.

Professor S 09-26-2008 11:25 PM

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I agree with Bond and most of the comments about how uncomfortable the debate was. I didn;t see the whole thing, but from what I saw I'm willing to call it a draw. Obama pushed McCain on the run-up to the war, and McCain pushed Obama on the surge and experience.

Overall , it just felt like a series on in-person attack ads.

BTW, I am loving the way CNN has reinvented itself. Its probably the only place where you can really find even handed reporting and analysis, since Fox leans hard conservative but has left-wing voices to provide some balance, and MSNBC has gone off the deep-end.

Fyacin 09-27-2008 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Vampyr (Post 239534)
:rofl:

That was constructive.

Vampyr 09-27-2008 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Professor S (Post 239543)
I agree with Bond and most of the comments about how uncomfortable the debate was. I didn;t see the whole thing, but from what I saw I'm willing to call it a draw. Obama pushed McCain on the run-up to the war, and McCain pushed Obama on the surge and experience.

Overall , it just felt like a series on in-person attack ads.

BTW, I am loving the way CNN has reinvented itself. Its probably the only place where you can really find even handed reporting and analysis, since Fox leans hard conservative but has left-wing voices to provide some balance, and MSNBC has gone off the deep-end.

The experience argument is a dead horse, especially now that he picked Sarah Palin to possibly lead our country. And experience alone doesn't mean anything.

And you really thought it was a series of personal attacks? The mot offensive thing Obama said during the entire debate was, "It doesn't mean we invite them over for tea." And that wasn't even directed at McCain, it was directed at the picture McCain was trying to paint of Obama.

McCain, on the other hand, spent the entire debate snickering and giggling like a little school girl, and at points telling blatant lies about Obama, and repeating the phrase "Obama doesn't understand." Obama, when retaliating to these lies, would simply say "That isn't true." And explain why. He never got defensive. When McCain said something true, he would say, "John is right."

Obama defended his beliefs and explained his opinions, while McCain attacked Obama's and rarely defended his own.

I'm not sure about you, but I know which kind of politics I prefer.

@Fyacin: So was your comment.


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