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Re: North Korea Missile Fails After 35 Seconds

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Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

I agree. Hey, let's let the Germans test things too. And better yet, they don't have to go public, it can be private tests!!! **** sanctions and restrictions. Let's have a free-for-all test-fest. If your country wants to test some nukes, **** getting permission, just test them! wooohooooooo.

And who said anything about a nuke?

As far as I know North Korea tested missles, not nuclear bombs.

You're comparing apples to hockey sticks here.

Re: North Korea Missile Fails After 35 Seconds

I like golden delicious ones, thank you much.

Re: North Korea Missile Fails After 35 Seconds

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Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

What oil crisis? Global warming?

There is no oil crisis. Rich influential people are benefiting off of you having to pay tons of money for gas. Anyone that tells you an alternative source of fuel is not an option is bullsh!tting you and is most likely a politician, or the head of some major company. Crisis implicates that we are going to run out, and be screwed. We won't. They will milk you as long as they can, until you're possibly paying 5 or 6 dollars a gallon. Then, when we are on the brink of riots or running out, they will make the shift. It's not that the industry is afraid of making a shift, it's that the people running the industry like money.

And global warming is environmentalist propaganda crap.

Having to go to war with the world's 4th largest land army = bad times.

You might be partly right about Oil, but I highly disagree about global warming. It might not be a problem in our lifetime, but a generation or two down the road it will be. I mean I know Ethanol and Hybrids are starting to get out there more and more, but its not enough, yet anyways. Hydrogen is the real answer I feel, but thats still a long ways off. So I personally do feel like it is a crisis, or if youd rather not use that word, a major problem far more scary than some country testing a nuke, or a car bomb going off 10,000 miles away.

Re: North Korea Missile Fails After 35 Seconds

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

And who said anything about a nuke?

As far as I know North Korea tested missles, not nuclear bombs.

You're comparing apples to hockey sticks here.

The one Taepodong-2 missile that failed 35 seconds after launch could carry a nuclear payload.

And lets for a minute totally forget about North Korea testing these missiles. They have one of the worst human rights track records in the world. North Korea has confirmed slave labor camps with at least 150,000 inmates. Women inside the camps are forced to have abortions if they become pregnant. There are reports that chemical weapons have been used on those in the labor camps. Of course this is all hard to confirm because North Korea is a completely closed society. Citizens are only allowed to travel from city to city if they have a special pass. Famine has killed around three million people in North Korea in the past ten years because the KWP concentrates all of their government funds on weapons and not on feeding their starving people.

Re: North Korea Missile Fails After 35 Seconds

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

I agree with GM.

They're just testing.

If they cant test their weapons, why does any other country have any more right than they do?

Either all nations are allowed to test, or none are.

Simple as that.

Yes, they are communist. Yes, they have missles. Woo hoo.

Way to promote equality in saying they cant test, while your own country does.

For one thing they're insane and don't value free societies. Also they don't follow any of the proper testing procedures such as notifying watercraft and planes to stay out of the testing zone.

Re: North Korea Missile Fails After 35 Seconds

You can't JUST TEST when you test:
1.Without telling anyone
2.Without Permission
They fired two misile that could have been aimed at Japan or States, basically they are giving the message "Yeah were testing out misiles so we can blow the **** out of one of you...we just dont wanna tell you who *winks at US* to be honest I am glad I live in Canada...

Re: North Korea Missile Fails After 35 Seconds

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Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

I don't think you can blow of the oil crisis as simple as that.

Make of this what you will, and read the full thing here: http://www.peakoil.org/

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"Civilization as we know it is coming to an end soon. This is not the wacky proclamation of a doomsday cult, apocalypse bible prophecy sect, or conspiracy theory society. Rather, it is the scientific conclusion of the best paid, most widely-respected geologists, physicists, and investment bankers in the world. These are rational, professional, conservative individuals who are absolutely terrified by a phenomenon known as global "Peak Oil.""

"The issue is not one of "running out" so much as it is not having enough to keep our economy running."

"Big deal. If gas prices get high, I’ll just drive less. Why should I give a damn?"

"Because petrochemicals are key components to much more than just the gas in your car. As geologist Dale Allen Pfeiffer points out in his article entitled, "Eating Fossil Fuels," approximately 10 calories of fossil fuels are required to produce every 1 calorie of food eaten in the US."

"How Do I Know Peak Oil Isn't Big Oil Propaganda That is Being Used To Create Artificial Scarcity & Justify Gouging Us at the Pump?"

If Peak Oil is "Big Oil propaganda" (as some claim), why did Sonoma State University's Project Censored declare it one of the most censored stories of 2003-2004? Surely, if "Peak Oil is Big Oil propaganda", Big Oil would have found a way to get it off the pages of under-funded publications like Project Censored and onto the pages of the mainstream papers and into the 24/7 cable news cycle years ago.

Likewise, if "Peak Oil is a myth propagated by the greedy oil companies to justify high prices", why didn't any of the greedy oil company CEOs offer "the peaking of world oil production" as a partial justification for high gas prices when they testified before Congress about high gas prices?

Re: North Korea Missile Fails After 35 Seconds

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Originally Posted by Bond

The one Taepodong-2 missile that failed 35 seconds after launch could carry a nuclear payload.

So can a car?

Semantics.

Re: North Korea Missile Fails After 35 Seconds

cars cant fly through the hair and hit a target completely bypassing rush hour...unless you have a freakishly tricked out car...

Re: North Korea Missile Fails After 35 Seconds

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Originally Posted by MrCoffee

cars cant fly through the hair and hit a target completely bypassing rush hour...unless you have a freakishly tricked out car...

I can put a nuke in my car and drive it into a building in Seattle.

Re: North Korea Missile Fails After 35 Seconds

I just finsihed reading much of this thread... and I have nothing to say. I am dumbfounded by some of the opinions shared here. Whether its a lack of those that are old enough to remember when the world was really in danger for 50+ years during the cold war or just plain apathetic cynicism I don't know.

1) Kim's a nutjob commu-facist
2) He kills his own people and cares less about everyone else
3) He has nukes
4) He's testing a missile that can deliver them half way around the world

What about this situation isn't frightening?

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke

"The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it." - Ayn Rand

"The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum. whenever evil wins, it is only by default: by the moral failure of those who evade the fact that there can be no compromise on basic principles." - Ayn Rand

Re: North Korea Missile Fails After 35 Seconds

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

So can a car?

Semantics.

'm sorry man, but you're the king of semantics.

:p

Re: North Korea Missile Fails After 35 Seconds

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Originally Posted by Dylflon

'm sorry man, but you're the king of semantics.

:p

Thats sort of why I said it.

*coughilovehowyou'retheonetosaysomethingaboutitandnobodyelsecough* ;)

Re: North Korea Missile Fails After 35 Seconds

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Originally Posted by Professor S

1) Kim's a nutjob commu-facist
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I just have to say something to correct your statement. Its nothing arguing against Kim's brutality. It's just by definition facists are anti-communist. The both ideologies couldn't be more opposite, the hate each other. Sorry to be anal but I couldnt help myself. ;)

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Kim isn't threatening my life personally since I dont live on the West Coast which is what he's more likely to strike first since...its gonna be nigh impossible to get a missile from North Korea to NYC without the US stopping it.

So...yeah. While he is a crazy nutjob, I don't see him launching a Nuke at Nebraska or Iowa anytime soon. Hopefully if one is thrown at the US that the radiation doesn't reach that far over..