Now that's better! :D

Though it could be even better if you can change the MAIN title! JOKE! :D

X-Box:
Eurpoe 1 month (released after holiday season)
Japan 2 months (released after holiday season)
US 4 months

Gamecube:
Europe 0 months
Japan 6 months
US 4 months

right now, GCN has has 1 more holiday season than Xbox, and 3 more moths total on the market...

So whatever the sales charts say, Gamecube has had a big advantage.

... If you want to turn it into this BJW, well, that is really MS's fault isn't it? This is the business world. Nintendo maged to get it out earlier, therefore, it's in fron't yes it has an advantage, but as it stands, the Xbox IS in third place.

It's just like with the PS2, it has been out SO MUCH longer, yet, that is business, and deserves to be in the lead.

I understand your point there Shadow Link. But if you don't care about including Europe then I shouldn't care about including Japan. Basically your argument is about including Japan. That statement basically destroys your argument.

I understand that Europe would only affect the outcome by a little, but it still is a place just as Japan is.

My source for the Xbox outselling the GameCube worldwide is the end of the year 2001 press releases by both companies. At that time the Xbox was ahead by a few hundred thousand units. I have searched around my press releases websites for updated officially confirmed sales charts by both companies and I was unable to find them.

If the GameCube is currently outselling the Xbox to date I would not be surprised. For I was only talking about the end of the year 2001.

My intention when creating this topic was not to mislead people, but it was to just simply show the sales charts for February and that the Xbox had outsold the GameCube. I had no intention of misleading people and creating this much uproar. It was just supposed to be a simple topic displaying sales charts.

Also I am sorry, the numbers were only for North America. I had believed that it would be world wide for obvious reasons. When the article was handed down to me there was no indication that it was only North America, so logically I assumed it was worldwide. But I have later found out it was only North America.

So in closing all I ask of people is to just take the thread for what it is and not blow it out of proportion like it is so many times.

So if I started making threads about how Ps2 has more world wide sales than GCN, people wouldn't use the release date as an excuse????

I agree Bond, I know this wasn't created to mislead people.

About the including Europe or not part. I was merely stating that as a part of Stu's argument.

He said that we consider only N.A and Japan wordwide since the Gc has not even come out in Europe. In reply, I just stated it wouldn't make a difference to the outcome even if you included Europe into the equation at the moment.

BJW, some people may, I wouldn't. You just did :D.

Yeah... sure....

It woudln't matter, the PS2 is still outselling Gamecube right now by a ton!

As is stands, the PS2 would still be way ahead of the Gamecube or Xbox even if it launched at the same time...

Here are the latest hardware numbers from Japan for the week of 3/11 - 3/17.

System/units sold during week/total sold in 2002

Playstation 2 - 75,989 - 1,094,725
GameBoy Advance - 28,382 - 716,530
GameCube - 12,698 - 307,485
X-Box - 7,924 - 179,931
PSone - 5,045 - 82,624
WonderSwan Color - 2,071 - 43,495
GameBoy - 1,347 - 49,283

That's right... 1,094,725 to 307,485...

Not. Even. Close.

Well first to justin

Like Pyscho said the timing was more done to the companies. If MicroSoft really wanted to capitalize on the holidays they should have released it before then. But like I believe we agreed on AIM. This would best be settled at the beginning of 2003 when they all went through their paces.

to Bond when you refer to the press release I believe that you are only referring to the North American related ones because Nintendo hardly ever releases press releases dealing with both Japan and the North American market together.

To justin again (using the order they were posted) if you were to make a thread about the PS2 beating the GC in total sales I would use the release date as an excuse, but if you made one like Bond there really is no excuse except for Nintendo's poor software showing right about now.

And well I don't know Shadow's point but I think it would be unfair to include Europe in the equation. Like you stated in a previous post no one has confirmed the figures for X-Box in Europe and the GC hasn't been released there yet. Unlike Japan, in which you could have numbers comparing them (even if they are a tad inaccurate).

*Talks in Bond mode*

Was there a point to that? :D

Well, yes BJW, I wouldn't, what are you insinuating?

Once again, let me make it clear, it just wouldn't make a difference in the out come if you included Europe or not for Xbox against the Gc. The Xbox has probably sold around what, around 120,000 + units in Europe, whereas the Gc has sold 1.8 M, which is more than the Xbox sold in Japan and Europe combined. Again stressing the point that it wouldn't make a difference to the total outcome!

[quote]Originally posted by Perfect Stu
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It woudln't matter, the PS2 is still outselling Gamecube right now by a ton!

Yes... Yes... The PS2 is King... *bows*

Theoritical the PS2 would be ahead of the rest if this numbers reflected a time when they were all released at the same time, but the fact is you really can't predict how any of them would sell if they were all released at the same time. So hush.:p

That you are BSing

I actually think the earlier release of the Playstation 2 in North America helped the Xbox sell more. Basically beacuse the Xbox and Playstation 2 are alike whereas the GameCube is different. PS2 being the crowd favorite would have soaked up all of the market share from the Xbox on launch day.

Uhhh.... now Shadow, tell BrakABone he's wrong... and that it doesn't matter...

(wait, you won't because BAB is defending GCN)

*shrugs*

*walks away*