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Ginkasa 03-23-2002 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by Joeiss
I forget exactly what happens, but there is an explanation for the crap-tacular ships of Episodes 4, 5 and 6. They did not overlook that fact.



I read somewhere that they meant for Episodes I to III to be more of a Rennasaince Era, more care taken to creation and artistic. Meanwhile they meant Episodes IV to VI to be more of an Industrial Revoltuion type thing. Things were being pumped out as fast as they could make them and so they were cruder etc.

Joeiss 03-23-2002 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by Link1130




I read somewhere that they meant for Episodes I to III to be more of a Rennasaince Era, more care taken to creation and artistic. Meanwhile they meant Episodes IV to VI to be more of an Industrial Revoltuion type thing. Things were being pumped out as fast as they could make them and so they were cruder etc.

Oh yeah.... And I think that the Empire had taken most of the resources from other planets, so the people who were not woring for the Empire had crappy vehicles because of the lack of no resources.

Ginkasa 03-23-2002 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by Joeiss


Oh yeah.... And I think that the Empire had taken most of the resources from other planets, so the people who were not woring for the Empire had crappy vehicles because of the lack of no resources.



I don't know about that one. X-Wings are better than TIEs except for speed. And the Naboo Fighters seem better than TIEs too so....

Joeiss 03-23-2002 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by Link1130




I don't know about that one. X-Wings are better than TIEs except for speed. And the Naboo Fighters seem better than TIEs too so....

Well, then everybody exept for the two main factions have ugly ships. I mean, look at all those ships and such. They are garbage.

newname 03-24-2002 12:17 AM

there not garbage, there crap! get it straight.;)

Cyrax9 03-24-2002 02:32 AM

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Originally posted by Joeiss
Umm.. Just to clear up to little things...

1) Posted by GameKing :

Umm... maybe that is the legal point of view on the name change, but I think that they switched from "revenge" to "return" because Jedi are not vengeful, and they are not evil. Therefore, revenge is not a word to describe when they kick ass!

I agree about the name change-reason as well, although back when Jedi came out, not as much was known about their origins, and their were still plans to do a third trilogy Episodes VII,VIII, and IX would pick up right after ROTJ before George Lucas Decided to make prequels with that annoying "thing" Jar-Jar Binks, why couldn't they have had a wookie? Also the word Revenge was remoced from the Star Trek movie for the same non-legal reason most likely, due to the fact that the "Enterprise" was a ship of exploration and not war, and the word "revenge" wouldn't fit the title for the death of a Major charcter who came back to life in the third movie, which really was a continuation of the second one.

I heard that SW:AOTC is going to explain why the symbol for the Emipre, and the Jedi Symbol are so similar, as well as why the ships in SW: IV,V, and VI look like they're tin cans, probably because of the war between the Imerprials and the Rebal Allieance, which SW: Episode III will have to lead in to if they want to make the movie look like it fits the timeline. There's also probably a lack of rescources in SW: IV,V, and VI.

NOw if they could only explain why the new Star Trek Prequel, "Enterprise" has a ship that looks "MORE" futuristic than the ships used before 1992, than I would be happy. I hate alot of prequels for the sole reason that they screw up what is already established, such as Anakin having a brother in SW: Episode IV when Luke is with his Uncle, and how the "Enterprise" from "Enterprise" has an extremly futuristic design, and there was no war with the Romulans, which was supposed to have happened before the original "Star Trek", thus ruining the series;' continuity. I'm actually hoping that when "Enterprise" goes off the air the Series Finale wipes the ship from the "Star Trek Timeline", which they could do, since the first epsiode of the show deals with time travel. I really don't like prequelsl, unless they can fit the original storyline.

Ginkasa 03-24-2002 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by Cyrax9
such as Anakin having a brother in SW: Episode IV when Luke is with his Uncle



Uncle Owen isn't Luke's real uncle. So its not Anakin's brother. Owen is Obi-Wan's brother.

Joeiss 03-24-2002 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by Link1130
Uncle Owen isn't Luke's real uncle. So its not Anakin's brother. Owen is Obi-Wan's brother.
Yup yup. That is true. ObiWan took Luke and Lea away from Anakin so that they would not be "evil".


Oh, and Episode II looks amazing! I was watching TV before I went to church, and I saw a preview for it. OMG. There were like 8 Jedi, lightsabers ablazing, deflecting lazers from Trade Federation droids and things that look like a pre-evolution of the AT-AT walkers. Damn I cannot wait to see this movie. I'll probably see it 8 times, like I saw Episode I 8 times. Damn, I cannot wait.

Ginkasa 03-24-2002 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by Joeiss


Yup yup. That is true. ObiWan took Luke and Lea away from Anakin so that they would not be "evil".


Oh, and Episode II looks amazing! I was watching TV before I went to church, and I saw a preview for it. OMG. There were like 8 Jedi, lightsabers ablazing, deflecting lazers from Trade Federation droids and things that look like a pre-evolution of the AT-AT walkers. Damn I cannot wait to see this movie. I'll probably see it 8 times, like I saw Episode I 8 times. Damn, I cannot wait.



I can't wait either. Yoda gets some action :D

Joeiss 03-24-2002 01:06 PM

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I can't wait either. Yoda gets some action :D

:eek:

He does? Like, as in lightsaber action? This I GOTTA see. He is so small and funny looking, so I want to see him kick some ass.

Cyrax9 03-24-2002 11:14 PM

The more light-sabre duels the better. Also thanks for clearing up the facts about Uncle Owen. I actualy thoght that was correct when I was watching SW: Episode I, but there was something that didn't fit. Now if we can see Obi-wan talking about Luke and Leia as children in Episode III, or better yet, seeing him give them to Uncle Owen, then we'd have a VERY interesting plot. I know that IF George Lucas ever changes is mind again about SW: Episodes VII,VIII, and IX, that they really should show the Jedi-counsol being rebuilt, and that people like me would be even happier to see what was originally planned. Also In Episode II we'l see Janga Fett, who Bobba Fett was presumably cloned from, as well as the Slave I ship, so this will be very interesting indeed. Also to Quote Darth Vader after the Death Star's test, Episode II looks "Most Impressive."

Ginkasa 03-24-2002 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by Cyrax9
The more light-sabre duels the better.
Lucas said that Episode II had the lightsaber duel to end all lightsaber duels. But I think Yoda's fight is more battle of the Force more than lightsabers though Yoda does use one.




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Originally posted by Cyrax9
Now if we can see Obi-wan talking about Luke and Leia as children in Episode III, or better yet, seeing him give them to Uncle Owen, then we'd have a VERY interesting plot.
Actually, only Luke would be given to Owen Lars. Leia goes to Bail Organa.



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Originally posted by Cyrax9
I know that IF George Lucas ever changes is mind again about SW: Episodes VII,VIII, and IX, that they really should show the Jedi-counsol being rebuilt, and that people like me would be even happier to see what was originally planned.

He couldn't do it now because of the novels which are considered part of the Star Wars continuity. The novels start from right after RotK (Truce at Bakura) to like 25 years after RotJ (New Jedi Order series). A sequel triology would either have to take place after all the novels, which would limit what new novels could do, or it would somehow have to squeeze within the novels or just knock the novels out of continuity.



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Originally posted by Cyrax9
Also In Episode II we'l see Janga Fett, who Bobba Fett was presumably cloned from, as well as the Slave I ship, so this will be very interesting indeed. Also to Quote Darth Vader after the Death Star's test, Episode II looks "Most Impressive."

Actually, Jango is Boba's father. I don't think Boba is a clone.

Kitana85 03-25-2002 10:36 AM

Technicalities aside, I'm jsut really excited!! KI haven't seen any previews yet :( but from what you guys are saying, it looks great!! I hope it's better than Episode I, (then again, it has to be). My fav is episode VI!! Anyhow, AARRGGG, I can't wait till May then!!!

Joeiss 03-25-2002 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by Kitana85
Technicalities aside, I'm jsut really excited!! KI haven't seen any previews yet :( but from what you guys are saying, it looks great!! I hope it's better than Episode I, (then again, it has to be). My fav is episode VI!! Anyhow, AARRGGG, I can't wait till May then!!!
I have only seen one preview, and it looks sweet. It really got me pumped up to see it.

And yes, Boba Fett is Jango's son. I think that in Episodes II and III there will be some focus on how Jango trains Boba into becoming just like himself.


And... Talking about Epidose III, there will be an amazing lightsabre duel there. Between Anakin and Obi Wan. Damn, that'll be sweet.

And... About mistakes happening in Episode IV. Remember when R2D2 went to Old Ben? Ben didn't have a clue in the world who the hell R2D2 was. So maybe R2D2 will not be around him im Ep II and III

Ric 03-25-2002 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by GameKinG
Stupid thing: It seems that the episodes 1 and 2 are far more advanced (If you watch the episode 2 previews you will see all the flying cards hi-tech stuff) then the episodes 4, 5, and 6. Hmm, 3 better say something about a huge war destoying all this.
Well when you think of it, in 4,5 and 6 they are all living under the tyranny of Empiure rule and the jedi have almost been completly killed off, in times of war and poverty it will look less advanced coz the advanced stuff would be stockpiled or blown to smitherens.

Also the films were made ages ago, before even most of the members of these boards were born, me included.

BTW, Star Wars rules, anyone who says otherwise gets a punch in the face. And Episode 1 was'nt that bad, I liked it.


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