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nWoCHRISnWo 03-16-2002 10:06 PM

Bond, you're acting like what you told other people to stop acting like in the other post. Apparently nobody can like the sites that give Nintendo games good reviews or they're biased idiots, yet you believe the site that has good news on X-Box and not the two sources that say otherwise. :rolleyes:

Perfect Stu 03-16-2002 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by nWoCHRISnWo
Bond, you're acting like what you told other people to stop acting like in the other post. Apparently nobody can like the sites that give Nintendo games good reviews or they're biased idiots, yet you believe the site that has good news on X-Box and not the two sources that say otherwise. :rolleyes:
dear god...I agree with him

Bond 03-16-2002 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by Ridley
*smacks Bond*

That's only about the UK, Angrist and everyone else were referring to Europe as a whole, not just the UK ;).

I realize that Ridley. But that article was so far the only article in English I have been able to find about the Xbox launch in Europe.

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Originally posted by nWoCHRISnWo
Bond, you're acting like what you told other people to stop acting like in the other post. Apparently nobody can like the sites that give Nintendo games good reviews or they're biased idiots, yet you believe the site that has good news on X-Box and not the two sources that say otherwise. :rolleyes
If the site Angrist suggested was actually in English, I may believe it. Also may I add this is an Xbox article from a GameCube website. It's obviously going to be biased.

Mad.co.uk is as far as I know is an unbiased website and does not relate to only one console.

I don't care if people complain about a website that only covers one console and gives those games very high or low scores. It's quite obvious that website only dedicated to one console is going to be biased.

But when people go around saying EGM gives out bad scores to Nintendo the one issue Nintendo videogames did not get so great scores, and then go back and say EGM is great because Nintendo videogames got great scores that month is idiotic.

I am offering different views from different websites. And that is really what this website needs. Because normally all you get is opinions from one side on many videogame matters.

Xantar 03-16-2002 11:24 PM

Geez, you guys. Why are you getting so worked up? Can't we wait for some official numbers from some official group that has access to some official data or something official like that? It's not like waiting a week or two before making your decision is going to kill you.

Perfect Stu 03-16-2002 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by Bond

If the site Angrist suggested was actually in English, I may believe it. Also may I add this is an Xbox article from a GameCube website. It's obviously going to be biased.

Mad.co.uk is as far as I know is an unbiased website and does not relate to only one console.

I don't care if people complain about a website that only covers one console and gives those games very high or low scores. It's quite obvious that website only dedicated to one console is going to be biased.

But when people go around saying EGM gives out bad scores to Nintendo the one issue Nintendo videogames did not get so great scores, and then go back and say EGM is great because Nintendo videogames got great scores that month is idiotic.

I am offering different views from different websites. And that is really what this website needs. Because normally all you get is opinions from one side on many videogame matters.

You backed yourself up well...

Bond 03-16-2002 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by Xantar
Geez, you guys. Why are you getting so worked up? Can't we wait for some official numbers from some official group that has access to some official data or something official like that? It's not like waiting a week or two before making your decision is going to kill you.
That's what I always wait for Xantar. But when people present false information it is always fair to show opposing views.

I will as usual post the official Microsoft press release on sales when it's released.

Xantar 03-16-2002 11:47 PM

Eerm...I wasn't talking to you (just in case you were thinking that). But thanks for backing me up. :D

Angrist 03-17-2002 10:14 AM

Bond, you don't believe the article just because you can't read it yourself??? Why would I lie? :rolleyes: BTW it's the most popular newspaper in Holland and it is reliable. And it says that the XB launch was a flop, which is the translation of failure. But that might just be Holland. Perhaps it did better in the UK.

Angrist 03-17-2002 10:20 AM

I guess this is what Cube-Europe was talkin bout:

Early in the morning on March 14, a major retail chain named Media Markt launched a nationwide TV campaign in which it announced it is selling the Xbox for the retail price of 399 euros ($352) instead of Microsoft's suggested retail price of 479 euros ($423). This price drop caused a major uproar in the industry, with many other German retail chains following suit, resulting in zero profit for individual retail outlets. Media Markt's strategy was to lure gamers into their stores in the hope that they'd buy more games or peripherals for Microsoft's debut console. Naturally, smaller stores had to stick to their pricing and couldn't give price reductions to people who preordered the console.

"We'll analyze the situation but retail prices are the trade's decision," Microsoft Germany's director Hans Stettmeier told industry paper MCV in response to the price drop. "We can't and won't interfere with that." Official distributors are now working with smaller retailers to offer them a solution. However, it remains uncertain as to whether the price tag will stay at 399 euros ($352) and whether smaller shops will have to follow suit. If that is the case, most shops in Germany are unlikely to make any profit on sales of the console.


The price is simpy too high.

Bond 03-17-2002 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by Angrist
I guess this is what Cube-Europe was talkin bout:

Early in the morning on March 14, a major retail chain named Media Markt launched a nationwide TV campaign in which it announced it is selling the Xbox for the retail price of 399 euros ($352) instead of Microsoft's suggested retail price of 479 euros ($423). This price drop caused a major uproar in the industry, with many other German retail chains following suit, resulting in zero profit for individual retail outlets. Media Markt's strategy was to lure gamers into their stores in the hope that they'd buy more games or peripherals for Microsoft's debut console. Naturally, smaller stores had to stick to their pricing and couldn't give price reductions to people who preordered the console.

"We'll analyze the situation but retail prices are the trade's decision," Microsoft Germany's director Hans Stettmeier told industry paper MCV in response to the price drop. "We can't and won't interfere with that." Official distributors are now working with smaller retailers to offer them a solution. However, it remains uncertain as to whether the price tag will stay at 399 euros ($352) and whether smaller shops will have to follow suit. If that is the case, most shops in Germany are unlikely to make any profit on sales of the console.


The price is simpy too high.

Well, it seems as though a chain has dropped the price. So problem solved there.

And of course I am not going to believe something that is in a different language. Please wait for the official announcement rather than posting speculation.

Perfect Stu 03-17-2002 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by Bond
Please wait for the official announcement rather than posting speculation.
uh...I think he's trying to say that what he posted is NOT speculation...

Professor S 03-18-2002 08:47 PM

This brings to mind the "fact" about the XBox recall in Japan...
:rolleyes:

Bond 03-18-2002 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by Perfect Stu


uh...I think he's trying to say that what he posted is NOT speculation...

If it's not speculation then why are there no specific numbers?

BigJustinW 03-18-2002 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by The Strangler
This brings to mind the "fact" about the XBox recall in Japan...
:rolleyes:

LMAO!!! :D

Angrist 03-19-2002 11:54 AM

I saw heaps of X-Box boxes in stores today. At least 15 in one store. :unsure:


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