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Professor S 12-16-2004 04:25 PM

Re: IGN wants Zelda murdered in Revolution Zelda Game
 
Looks like a brilliant work of literature to me.

Would anyone like to comment on my comments abouta new direction for Zelda, instead of taking weak cheapshots at me? That would be nice.

EDIT: I actually thought the Link banging a hooker in a stolen car bit was pretty funny, DAMMIT! :D

Dylflon 12-16-2004 04:26 PM

Re: IGN wants Zelda murdered in Revolution Zelda Game
 
I like Strangler's idea of a grittier Zelda game. I'm not a big fan of the series (though I do acknowledge that the games are good) but if they made the whole thing a bit darker it would definently have a bit more drawing power for me. I'm no saying totally revamp the character, but just let him grow up or show some damn emotion for once.

Typhoid 12-16-2004 04:37 PM

Re: IGN wants Zelda murdered in Revolution Zelda Game
 
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Originally Posted by The Strangler
Looks like a brilliant work of literature to me.

Would anyone like to comment on my comments abouta new direction for Zelda, instead of taking weak cheapshots at me? That would be nice.


I'll attempt.


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Originally Posted by Le Strangér
I'm not saying they should change Mario games since there's not much you can do with a plumber fighting turtles

So what can they change to a game based on Saving a Princess? Kill the Princess? Yes...thats a sure fire way to make sure you have future games.

Zelda games work. Bitch all you want about it not being a good game, about any game being a good game. But how many have they made? Alot? So that means it has to be partially successfull correct?

I love Zelda games. I've loved EVERY Zelda game ever made. They are all awesome. OoT was my favourite, I will admit, and I have beaten it a whopping 30 times.

I dont see the big deal about not changing the basic storyline.

Its not the same game.

Its not a sequal.

In fact, Im pretty sure in every game, it has NOTHING to do with any of the other ones.

If you dont like it, fine, dont complain. Will the creators magically wonder what the people on GT are saying about hteir game? No. If you dont like it, there is one simple step: Don't buy it. Than we all win.

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Originally Posted by El Stranglero
With Zelda you have the ability to take a different slant on a beloved character if just for one game. With a more realistic appearance you could make the game a little grittier and a bit darker. I'm not saying that he should be going around murdering whomever he chooses and banging hookers in his stoen car, but maybe he could actually look a little pissed when he's dicing up one of Ganon's minions.

A gritty look here, a plot twist there and a couple of cutscene's could add a lot to an already great franchise.

Im not trying to be funny here or anything...but did I miss the part in any review for Zelda where they said their arnt any plot twists, where it said the game isnt dark, and where it said his face has no emotion?

I rmemeber reading that this is THE darkest Zelda game. So there goes point number 2.

Every Zelda game has some sort of little tiny twist, no matter how miniscule it is...so there goes point numero uno.

And they have the capability to do the emotion on the face, I dont know if they will or not, so point 3, undoubtedly remains in tact.

But bottom line, Every Zelda game is different. Every one. Sure the basis is the same, Kill Gannon(dorf) and save Zelda. But you let Mario of of the hook, so why cant you let Link off huh? Right...because he isnt a plumber.

And lets compare Mario and Zelda ok?

Mario
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-Plumber
-Save Princess


Link
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-Whatever he is in that game...
-Save Princess


Oh, whats this? The basis of the game is the same!!?!?!

*Shock*

Vampyr 12-16-2004 04:47 PM

Re: IGN wants Zelda murdered in Revolution Zelda Game
 
I like the way that they thought getting revenge was more original than saving the princess.

A grittier zelda game would be cool, though, and it would have to be done with adult link. Kid Link is pretty much dead now...and may he rot. Just make link a little grizzlier looking (five o'clock shadow anyone? There is no way he runs around for days and doesn't get a little bit of one.) And they should throw in some cool lighting effects that add's some shadows to the world.

That's merely an option though...Zelda would be just as cool without all that stuff, it just depends on what style you are going for. I play zelda for high adventure, action, puzzles, unforgettable characters, and yes, story. I love the storyline in the Zelda games the way they are. The foundation is built more on character than plot, and that's what we all get from the game, though the plot is excellent as well. I loved the story in Wind Waker...I thought it was one of the coolest ones ever in a Zelda game, and the explanation of how the world existed, and the whole thing about a "new Hyrule" fascinated me.

And I am appalled that so many people hated collecting the triforce...don't you guys remember how back in OoT everyone WANTED to be able to get it? I loved getting all the pieces...I hadn't done that since the NES game.

DeathsHand 12-16-2004 04:57 PM

Re: IGN wants Zelda murdered in Revolution Zelda Game
 
I'm not sure if they should kill Zelda off, but I've been saying this for awhile, they should make a game that sorta takes place in a time of disorder and despair in hyrule... And not because gannon took over and is ruling everything... Just have there be conflict between the races and crap...

Hard times... Not the kind of time when you walk into a town and everyone has a huge-ass smile on their face and are prancing around town instead of actually working...

Like those damn carpenters...

Killing Zelda? I dunno about that...

About triforce hunting, yes I missed the triforce in OoT... however, in WW it was turned into just a very boring hunt...

Back in Zelda 1, each dungeon housed 1 piece... You had to fight through enemies, find your way through the 'maze', then destroy the boss...

In WW, you got maps... Which in turn you had to pay a fortune to decipher... Then simply travel over the huge ocean doing nothing except picking them out of the ocean...

Jonbo298 12-16-2004 05:32 PM

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Yeah, I would like to see a more grittier Zelda which I think the next Zelda on the 'Cube is gonna provide. Hopefully for the Revolution version of Zelda, there are many dungeons, enemies, etc..so it feels like an epic quest that hopefully isn't a boring mind quest :p

Typhoid 12-16-2004 05:35 PM

Re: IGN wants Zelda murdered in Revolution Zelda Game
 
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Originally Posted by Jonbo298
Yeah, I would like to see a more grittier Zelda which I think the next Zelda on the 'Cube is gonna provide. Hopefully for the Revolution version of Zelda, there are many dungeons, enemies, etc..so it feels like an epic quest that hopefully isn't a boring mind quest :p


I dont know though.....Epic Mind Quests are what most Zelda's are all about.

They are mental quizzes, and they rack your brain because you have to remmeber where you saw Person A, because Person C says Person B wants you to talk to Person A.

A grittier Zelda, I wouldnt be opposed to though, like, Darker...but im not pushing for it with full force however.

And I agree, they should banish Kid Link to the pits of hell.

DimHalo 12-16-2004 06:11 PM

Re: IGN wants Zelda murdered in Revolution Zelda Game
 
They can't change Zelda too much or they'll lose some die-hard fans. I know they would lose my mom (who has been a Zelda player since the beginning) and depending on how much "grittier" it gets, they might lose me too. And I know there are a lot of fans like my mom and I.

DarkMaster 12-16-2004 06:23 PM

Re: IGN wants Zelda murdered in Revolution Zelda Game
 
A game can still be mature and not have to contain a bunch of dark and gritty aspects. Zelda could very well take a page from the Lord of the Rings, or something, where it's on a more mature and epic scale (but still very much fantasy), without swearing or heavy metal music. I think maybe you people are thinking of Prince of Persia 2 and are getting scared of seeing Link dressed in rugged clothing, slaughtering demons in an entourage of blood whilst swearing a blue streak for really no apparent reason.

You don't have to completely change the series in order to present something new. There's always been a certain light heartedness in the Zelda games, and that's worked out great. But there's no reason why they can't tone up the maturity level just a bit if they want to try something new.

Jonbo298 12-16-2004 07:31 PM

Re: IGN wants Zelda murdered in Revolution Zelda Game
 
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Originally Posted by Typhoid
I dont know though.....Epic Mind Quests are what most Zelda's are all about.

They are mental quizzes, and they rack your brain because you have to remmeber where you saw Person A, because Person C says Person B wants you to talk to Person A.

A grittier Zelda, I wouldnt be opposed to though, like, Darker...but im not pushing for it with full force however.

And I agree, they should banish Kid Link to the pits of hell.

The keyword I said was boring. I don't mind them being in the game, just make them "fun/interesting"

GameMaster 12-16-2004 07:47 PM

Re: IGN wants Zelda murdered in Revolution Zelda Game
 
The Legend of Zelda needs to remain the same. Giving this classic story a dark chapter will just result in a flop similar to Prince of Persia 2. It is not in character for Link to be 'dark' or to have an angry edge. That's not who he is. As a child, he is optimistic and righteous. As an adult he bears the same qualities only he is less playful and more serious. If someone who he cares for deeply were to be murdered or something along those lines, Link would not become a jaded rogue only set to seek revenge like Prince of Persia or Anakin Skywalker. That only happens to people who are weak at mind or heart. And Link is not for your information. Therefore, he would mourn for a period of time and after that continue to be heroic and do what is right. Sorry for you all evil fans who like to see good guys become bad. Not going to happen in this story.

Typhoid 12-16-2004 07:55 PM

Re: IGN wants Zelda murdered in Revolution Zelda Game
 
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Originally Posted by GameMaster
The Legend of Zelda needs to remain the same. Giving this classic story a dark chapter will just result in a flop similar to Prince of Persia 2. It is not in character for Link to be 'dark' or to have an angry edge. That's not who he is. As a child, he is optimistic and righteous. As an adult he bears the same qualities only he is less playful and more serious. If someone who he cares for deeply were to be murdered or something along those lines, Link would not become a jaded rogue only set to seek revenge like Prince of Persia or Anakin Skywalker. That only happens to people who are weak at mind or heart. And Link is not for your information. Therefore, he would mourn for a period of time and after that continue to be heroic and do what is right. Sorry for you all evil fans who like to see good guys become bad. Not going to happen in this story.


But isnt each Link a different person? Meaning like...in each game....isnt it a differnet person named "Link"?

Unless im crazy...

GameMaster 12-16-2004 08:00 PM

Re: IGN wants Zelda murdered in Revolution Zelda Game
 
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Originally Posted by Typhoid
But isnt each Link a different person? Meaning like...in each game....isnt it a differnet person named "Link"?

Unless im crazy...

Nope, it's Link in different periods of his life. Legend of Zelda loves to play with time. They always have.

thatmariolover 12-16-2004 08:30 PM

Re: IGN wants Zelda murdered in Revolution Zelda Game
 
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Originally Posted by The Strangler
And yes, I did realize that IGN was using a bit of sarcasm, but my post was in response to the other post on this thread, which I thought was quite obvious. Apparently not.

And I would have thought it sorely obvious that I was referring to the posts, and not your opinion on what IGN said.

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Originally Posted by thatmariolover
And while they probably meant some of what they said, can you honestly look at the posts before you and not see a general sense of sarcasm?

Apparently not. It's sad you find my dislike for you amusing. Perhaps if you didn't make generalizations about groups of people I wouldn't have such a problem with what you say. Comparing a group of people to terrorists, even in jest, is hardly a way to get people to laugh.

I give credit where it's due. Check your +rep. I've given it to you in the past month or two for something you said. Maybe I wouldn't feel inclined to disagree with you so often if you said something worth saying - added something to a thread instead of just making the people in it feel stupid.

Dyne 12-16-2004 08:32 PM

Re: IGN wants Zelda murdered in Revolution Zelda Game
 
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Originally Posted by GameMaster
Nope, it's Link in different periods of his life. Legend of Zelda loves to play with time. They always have.

Miyamoto officially says in each game it's a different Link.

Obviously, some are the same. Like between Zelda 1 and 2, or between Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask.


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