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When does child porn become child porn? I mean everyone has naked baby pictures. So I guess I mean why is Baby Porn OK and Child Porn isn't and when are you a child and not a baby? AHHHH! Now I am confused.
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Context.
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There is a huuuuuuuuge difference. |
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Having a photograph of a naked 3 year old is perfectly okay as long as it's your own child (or a relative) and that child is doing something a normal child would do. Having a photograph of a naked 3 year old is not okay if it's basically any other situation. |
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Reading your response though, you feel some laws just shouldn't be respected. Well then who gets to make the decision on what laws should be enforced, and what laws shouldn't? What reasoning are they using when deciding what laws should be enforced? How much money is involved? How much power can be transferred through such arbitrary decision making? These ideas you're expressing are dangerous. Quote:
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There is no way to remove the human factor from the systemic governing of a society. Destroy the establishment if you like, but what establishment will take its place, and who will be making the decisions, and in what way will they be chosen? Justice is not devoid of corruption, because humans enforce justice and humans are corrupt. When any decision is made about determining how people should be treated by a government, we always need to ask: "By whose standard?" This is why laws MUST be clear and enforced if they are remain valid and civilization is to progress. You cannot measure you personal activity against a constantly changing yard stick. To make enforcement contingent on someone's feelings and empathy is to be oppressed by that person. |
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My point of bringing up the subject of context was that regardless of whose children they are, a lot of people might deem the pictures pornographic. Especially in our strange Western society where nudity is not viewed as a natural state but rather a sexualized and dirty state. On the topic of taking non-artistic pictures of your kids naked: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/arizona-co...ory?id=8624533 http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Weekend/pa...ory?id=8622696 The knee-jerk reaction is in example of western culture failure. We probably need a working definition of pornography in this thread, and that is just as hard as defining art. |
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Why do you have it? If you have it to show family members - not porn. If you have it for medical advancement/research - not porn. If you have it as art (obviously not talking of nude children, that would be creepy art) - not porn. If you have it to jerk off to - porn. |
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That's got to be one of the stupidest laws. If that's what turns some dude on and he can't do anything about it, then it's much better to read some manga where the characters don't even look human (AND AREN'T REAL!) than searching out actual child porn or gods forbid three dimensional flesh and blood kids to do things with.
As for the context of photos, isn't it more who took the photo and their reason for doing so than who might end up with it? The safety of the kid is the utmost concern. Example A: Having fun in the bath a parent takes a photo of their kid that a creepy uncle later jerks off to. Example B: Creepy uncle gets off at giving kid a bath and takes a photo. The kid realizes this is wrong. Hell, the whole Catholic church problem could have probably been avoided if they handed out child porn manga to the priests. "Father John has a devilish look in his eye. Quick, fetch a copy of Tentacle-Fucking Kindergarteners." Crisis averted. |
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As expected, Prof ignores that fact that everyone's issue with the law is that it's unjust. Nobody said the law shouldn't be enforced, people said the law as-is is unjust, therefore it shouldn't exist in the first place.
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