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Neo
10-27-2004, 12:06 PM
During the next four years there could be three vacancies on the Supreme Court which the current president would have to fill. If Bush wins he will likely appoint conservative judges who would quite possibly overturn roe v wade. If John Kerry is elected he will appoint justices which will uphold basic human liberties. This is why it is critical that Kerry wins next week. Bush cannot be allowed to further entrench his religious dogma into our lives. Do you want a president to appoint superstitious right-wing nutjobs whose votes are determined by what they think an invisible man who lives in the sky wants them to do, or do you want a president to appoint justices which stand for reason and common sense? A second Bush term will do long-term damage to the principles of religious freedom this country was founded upon, not to mention the secondary harm it will do to scientific progress. It should be no surprise that democrats dominate in the cities and republicans dominate in the rural areas. Studies show that low income, non-educated bible thumpers in hick towns vote strongly republican. And despite Kerry's promise to repeal tax cuts for the rich, he oddly has more support from those making over 100k a year than Bush does.

For Bush and the bible there are no gray areas, something is either right or wrong. In this case it's we're right, you're wrong, no matter what. And because we're in power, we can force you to follow us.

Not anymore. The descent in to the dark ages must stop here.

Blackmane
10-27-2004, 01:26 PM
If he was so intent about getting his views into the Supreme Court, why didn't he do it sooner then? I mean, he could have easily started replacing the older members of the Supreme Court, or asked the more conservative judges to step down in order to replace him with judges of his choosing.

Why didn't he? Maybe because he is not scheming about it so much as you suggest. Think about it. With all the issues on the war on terror, he could have easily had a resignation in the Supreme Court kind of fly under the radar, but he didn't. I honestly don't feel there is that much forethought put into it by Bush.

*edit* Now, I'm not suggesting that once a spot is open, Bush isn't going to put in a conservative judge. However, I think you are stereotyping conservatives a little too much. Conservative basically means upholding the Constitution the way it is, and Liberal basically means change in these areas. Just because they are conservative doesn't mean that they are going to impose their religion on America. Lets face it folks, this country was founded by Christians, and its ingrained in the Constitution, and still people are allowed to believe what they want to believe. I think its a slight overexxageration to go straight from conservatives to Bible-thumping radical.

And to suggest Kerry would put a fair, un-biased judge in the court is very fairy tale-ish thinking about Kerry.

Professor S
10-27-2004, 01:32 PM
Yes, Bush is evil... EEEEVIIIIILLLLL...

:rolleyes:

Roe v. Wade will never be overturned. There might be logical and reasonable changes made to it, which I am in favor of, such as banning late term abortion.

Meanwhile if Kerry wins the Presidency and knowing that both he and Edwards are in favor of allowing partial birth abortion, their appointments to the Supreme Court might just make infanticide legal.

Xantar
10-27-2004, 09:08 PM
If he was so intent about getting his views into the Supreme Court, why didn't he do it sooner then? I mean, he could have easily started replacing the older members of the Supreme Court, or asked the more conservative judges to step down in order to replace him with judges of his choosing.


Now that really is ridiculous. Do you think the President of the United States can really just ask a member of the Supreme Court to step down? For one thing, he has no authority to do that. The Supreme Court is supposed to be a separate organ of the government entirely, providing a check and balance against the Congress and the Executive.

Secondly, if there was one whiff of a Supreme Court judge stepping down at the President's request, you'd have protests up the wazoo, and they know it. If Bush asked Rehquist to step down (for example), Rehquist would most likely refuse precisely because he would want to avoid the appearance of impropriety.

Now I know you're suggesting that Bush could have kind of slipped this in with the nation's focus on the war on terror and all, but the fact is he really couldn't. Especially considering that many people believe that Bush is only in office because the Supreme Court selected him. And you'd better believe that his challenger would have jumped on it as a sign that Bush is a stubborn and arrogant fascist with designs on dictatorship.

Bond
10-27-2004, 09:30 PM
If Bush wins he will likely appoint conservative judges who would quite possibly overturn roe v wade. If John Kerry is elected he will appoint justices which will uphold basic human liberties.
That's not a biased comparison at all, now is it? You're starting to sound like one giant infomercial, Neo.

Neo
10-27-2004, 11:23 PM
That's not a biased comparison at all, now is it? You're starting to sound like one giant infomercial, Neo.

I'll give you a second one absolutely FREE if you act now!

Jonbo298
10-28-2004, 01:30 AM
Only if its 5 easy payments of just $19.99 :D