Stem Cells At Work

[Acebot44]

Link (http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/08/27/jaw.transplant.ap/index.html)

A German who had his lower jaw cut out because of cancer has enjoyed his first meal in nine years -- a bratwurst sandwich -- after surgeons grew a new jaw bone in his back muscle and transplanted it to his mouth in what experts call an "ambitious'' experiment.

[GameMaster]

That's a great story and testimony for why stem cell research should be given the green light, it's giving a man a second chance at life. It's said before the transplant that he was sick of living, and now thanks to science he can enjoy life again.

[Jonbo298]

Sounds great that this experiment was a success. If I ever had a situation come up where I could be put almost normal again if I gave doctor's some of my stem cell's and grew the thing inside me, I'd gladly let them do it.

[dropCGCF]

Wuss.

MY jaw's been dislocated for four years.

I wonder if this could be used to make new uteruses. Then my woman could have kids.

[Crash]

well, he still has no teeth...

[Typhoid]

Wuss.

MY jaw's been dislocated for four years.

I wonder if this could be used to make new uteruses. Then my woman could have kids.



Your like a walking sack of sympathy arnt you?


And it couldnt be dislocated for four years. Nobody is that stupid to not get it re-aligned.

How do you eat and talk? Do you not eat either? Are you going to drag sympathy out of that too?



EDIT: True, he has no teeth, but i guess that pales in comparison to having a jaw again.

[dropCGCF]

Your like a walking sack of sympathy arnt you?


And it couldnt be dislocated for four years. Nobody is that stupid to not get it re-aligned.

How do you eat and talk? Do you not eat either? Are you going to drag sympathy out of that too?



EDIT: True, he has no teeth, but i guess that pales in comparison to having a jaw again.

Typhoid, when will you learn?

I only got it fixed recently because the insurance company finally viewed my mouthpiece as "necessary for sustaining quality of life" or something like that. My family isn't rich like yours. We can't blow 1,500 dollars on a mouthpiece. It's not stupidity.

Furthermore, I didn't know it was dislocated until about 6 months until I went for the MRI that told me so. I could still eat, it was just painful and sometimes made a loud clicking noise.

For the first month I had my mouthpiece in, I could only "eat" Slim-Fast shakes or anything liquified. It was super-fun, no sarcasm. Oh wait.

Typhoid, why don't you educate yourself before coming and attacking me? Look up temporomandibular joint disorders. You might learn something.

[Typhoid]

Typhoid, when will you learn?

I only got it fixed recently because the insurance company finally viewed my mouthpiece as "necessary for sustaining quality of life" or something like that. My family isn't rich like yours. We can't blow 1,500 dollars on a mouthpiece. It's not stupidity.

Furthermore, I didn't know it was dislocated until about 6 months until I went for the MRI that told me so. I could still eat, it was just painful and sometimes made a loud clicking noise.

For the first month I had it in, I could only "eat" Slim-Fast shakes or anything liquified. It was super-fun, no sarcasm.

Typhoid, why don't you educate yourself before coming and attacking me? Look up temporomandibular joint disorders. You might learn something.



Wow......my god.


Educate yourself by knowing what free healthcare is. Canadians have it. So me being rich has nothing to do with it. You might learn something.

And if you just got it fixed, why did you make it sound like it was still dislocated?

"MY jaw's been dislocated for four years. "

Leads one to believe it still is.

Maybe wording like " My jaw was dislocated for four years."

English is fun.


I really hate the fact, for anything to be taken lightly with some people you have to put a ":p" beside it somewhere. people need to lighten up. I wasnt knockin you in any way at all.

And what exactly do you mean "When will I learn"?

What exactly are you talking about?

And my jaw makes that loudd clicking noise all the time. Ever since i was 12. I can pop it in and out. ( i dont plan on doing it, it just does it) I went and its not dislocated, i just have a sh*tty jaw.

And before you say im trying to compare my problems with yours, dont, because im not. I dont like to post my personal problems on a forum of people i dont know, it makes me come off as lame and pathetic.

But lets not stray too off topic here, threads do that so much it gets annoying sometimes.

[dropCGCF]

Wow......my god.


Educate yourself by knowing what free healthcare is. Canadians have it. So me being rich has nothing to do with it. You might learn something.

And if you just got it fixed, why did you make it sound like it was still dislocated?

"MY jaw's been dislocated for four years. "

Leads one to believe it still is.

Maybe wording like " My jaw was dislocated for four years."

English is fun.


I really hate the fact, for anything to be taken lightly with some people you have to put a ":p" beside it somewhere. people need to lighten up. I wasnt knockin you in any way at all.

And what exactly do you mean "When will I learn"?

What exactly are you talking about?

And my jaw makes that loudd clicking noise all the time. Ever since i was 12. I can pop it in and out. ( i dont plan on doing it, it just does it) I went and its not dislocated, i just have a sh*tty jaw.

And before you say im trying to compare my problems with yours, dont, because im not. I dont like to post my personal problems on a forum of people i dont know, it makes me come off as lame and pathetic.

1, I live in the U.S. Healthcare is not free here.

2. My jaw is technically still dislocated. It is being fixed, but it will never completely be back in place until about 5 years from now. I'm still healing.

3. I need to lighten up? I made a post, a comment, that warranted no response like yours. I was making a joke, a ha-ha, a comical reference to a similar situation that I'm in right now.

4. If your jaw pops like that, you should see a specialist. Going to the normal doctor didn't diagnose mine, I'm assuming if you didn't go to a specialist then they might not have told you. I think it's 1 in 5 people that has some sort of TMJ problem.

5. Lame and pathetic? You're always the one attacking what I say. First it was the Jesus being a woman thing and now this. I'm not being pathetic. I'm defending myself. I don't think the statement "MY jaw's been dislocated for four years. " means I'm telling you to be sorry for me.

Sure, you weren't "knockin" me by telling me "Nobody is that stupid to not get it re-aligned.". What do you call that, then? Constructive criticism?

Back off and pick your battles, kid. You won't win this one.

[Typhoid]

Haha...I like how you called me kid....your only one year older than me. It brightened my day.

I said the Canadian healthcare thing because you told me your not rich like me so you cant throw around money. And i was saying it doesnt matter, because I dont have to pay the money to get the same thing done that you did.


Where did I say you need to lighten up? Please, show me where i said it. I said peopel, which is a generalization. I was showing my displeasure for the fact that if you dont have a :p it is taken seriously.

Again, i never said you were lame and pathetic. I said i didnt want to post my problems to a group of strangers, because i would feel lame and pathetic.

Who said this is a battle?
Are you going to "bust out" your supreme skills at arguing?

And I argued with you over 22 things. That hardly counts as "always attacking what you say"

But like I said 2 posts ago...this is off topic, So im done. I dont want to be the partial reason a thread gets closed.

But im done, this is a stupid thing to be talking about.

Sleep is good.

[Jonbo298]

I lost myself in all the bickering :eyes:

[Happydude]

*chants* BLOOD! BLOOD! BLOOD! BLOOD! BLOOD! BLOOD! *end chant*


stem cells are cool, y is the research illegal?

[Canyarion]

Be nice people. :hmm:

Stem cell technology.... :unsure:

[GiMpY-wAnNaBe]

Its illegal because it can lead to cloning, and its considered unnatural by those who voted for the law to be passed. I'm personally all for it, giving people second chances is something i think should be done.

[Professor S]

If Drop and Typhoid have not already decided to stop this stupid argument, they will do so now.

Thank you.

[dropCGCF]

I'm really not sure I stand for stem-cellls. I guess I'm for supporting life, but I'm against abortion.

Wait, a solution!

We could use the DNA from criminals for stem-cell reasearch. If they die, that's one less rapist in the world and someone else (or many) get a new chance at life. It's a win-win situation.

[Typhoid]

I dont know why people are against stem cells. Like, i can see it in a religious way, that some people are brought up to believe its unnatural and wrong.

Well, true, it is unnatural, so is making a test-tube baby, and they did that a number of years ago.

I say, if it helps out society, and if it gives more people a reason to live, its a good thing.

[Crono]

Or you can just accept the fact that you're different than everyone else...

Actually I'm all for cell stem research. So that one day I can use my army of clones to take over the world.

[Happydude]

Or you can just accept the fact that you're different than everyone else...

Actually I'm all for cell stem research. So that one day I can use my army of clones to take over the world.
:rolleyes:

[Crono]

:rolleyes:

What?

:D

[The Germanator]

Bush limited some funding for stem cell research. Another reason why I'm not voting for him.

[KillerGremlin]

If people looked at our modern society, they would see that god is dead, and that we play god so much nowadays using the argument, "we don't want to play god," is beyond dumb.

Stem Cell research could lead to cloning, but I doubt it will ever be used that way. However, genetically modifying your child is very plausible. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. If we could wipe out the bad genes.....like the ones that cause certain diseases, or drug addiction, we could make a pretty solid society. There have also been documented studies that show some people have been unaffected by the AIDS virus. If we could give that gene to everyone.......

I'm not very religious myself, and to me, stem cell research is an obvious thing to look into. The other thing to consider is: Even if we don't fund it or do it in the United States, it's going down in other locations around the world. Stem Cell research is beign done right now, so there's really no way to stop it. So why not just get over with this, and start researching and using it now?

Edit: And for all you religious people, what do you care? You're not the ones "going to hell" for doing it. I know religious people that don't use things like the birth control pill, and they don't judge the people that do. It's not their job. I also know religious people that do judge, and they are far beyond annoying.

[manasecret]

Bush and company aren't against stem cell research.

They're against the source of most of the good stem cells -- aborted, dead fetuses.

They wouldn't ban stem cell research (or limit it or whatever) because it might, someday lead to cloning, when it has so many other obvious benefits that have nothing to do with cloning.

It's just about abortion. I wanted to get the facts straight because I still wonder how people can still be asking this question about stem cells.

[Professor S]

It comes down to politics. Those that are against abortion cannot openly support stem cell research because it would be seen as a backdoor support of abortion through supporting research that uses aborted babies.

The pragmatist can see that the aborted phetus's are going to waste and could be used to better humanity regardless of one's moral stance on the argument, but the politician cannot be seen as being weak on such a hot button issue. So we have a stalemate.

Another reason why I am not a republican. (I really need to start a new poltical party called the "Pragmaticans")

[TheSlyMoogle]

Wuss.

MY jaw's been dislocated for four years.

I wonder if this could be used to make new uteruses. Then my woman could have kids.

Yes, to answer your question it could be used to make new internal organs. There is so much power in this that it's insane. Heart transplants, liver and kidney transplants. It all could be so easy.

Yeah that's awesome.