View Full Version : I Don't Like Shenmue... Why?
Professor S
03-01-2002, 01:57 AM
Guys, I have to admit something...
I don't like Shenmue.
I tried, I really did. I put several days into it, and I even took it as a given that it would take a while for me to get into it. I just never did.
The game just progresses too slowly for me. The whole clue discovery sytem is all too formumatic too. "Oh, I don't know, why don't you ask Joe Schmoe... Oh, I don't know, why don't you ask Jane Doe... and so on" It just took to long and seemed uninspired.
Now tell me, am I just not giving this game enought time (I'm 4 in-game days into the game) and it gets better later? Or is this basically it and Shenmue is just not my cup of tea?
Please give me some advice. I don't want to waste my time if I'm not going to like like it at all.
UncleNoName
03-01-2002, 07:46 PM
Maybe you should try a little more, but IMO Shenmue is the kind of game you either love or hate.
I rekon you should give it another go a lot of people just walking about are for effect to make you feel it is a living breathing world and are pretty useless, the best place to go is shops or if you get stuck ask the fortune teller. Incidentally whats bit are you stuck on?
Professor S
03-01-2002, 08:10 PM
I'm not really "stuck" on anything, I'm just getting a little bored running around and asking poeple questions. I'm going to give it 2 more in-game days though, and see whats happenng... and not ask so many random people so many questions:D
I could understand why someone could get extremely bored of it, but you should play through the whole game before you make a judgement. Everyone complains that the 1st disk is boring and has no fighting, but there's more action later on, especially after you get your job at the Harbor.
Shenmue is a game that you either really love, or really hate. I like it, because it gives me a break from all of these non-stop action games like Devil May Cry and SSB. I like to play all genres depending on if I'm in the mood or not.
Ginkasa
03-01-2002, 09:09 PM
Even if you don't like Shenmue you'll probably like ShenmueII, it has a lot more action and extra things to do. That's enough to finish Shenmue since II's digest movie isn't all that good IMO.
And don't worry about pushing yourself to finish it. It'll start to get better near the end of disc1 and really pick up somewhere in disc2. Then you'll remember why you bought it in disc3.
IMO anyway...
Definately try to get to disc 2 by then you will be more interested in the game and if you stick with it till disc 3, you get to ride a motorbike.
I can see how some people can get bored with shenmue, me personally. I was addicted it, and i'm going to do what ever it takes to play shenmue 3.
Shenmue is a very involved game, and has a deep plot, the first game only scratches the surface on the plot. I can see how you get bored with the game, just going round asking people questions all the time. And here everyone ramble on saying the same thing, and not getting anything useful out of them. If i was you, give it some more time. Maybe your expecting to much from the game, and judge it to quickly. Play it until you start to get more into the action. The game starts to get even more interesting when you get to the habour (like someone else mentioned), when you get a job.
I must admit, i found it a little boring at first, but at the sametime i was amazed by the graphics (maybe not the very best now, but when it first came out it was incredable). But i started to get really into the plot, and then the action started. Both the QTE moments, and the times when you fight. If you can get into the game, then theres the sequel for you to get into. Which has even more action. But even after you've experienced some QTE moments and fighting moments. And you really can not get into the game what so ever. Then give up. I feel that most of the people that don't like shenmue, judge it to quickly, and don't give the game a chance. Once you get into the action and get involved in the plot. You become obsessed, and you find yourself buying the little toys and going to the arcade. And practicing in the park to get your moves stats up, and when you learn a new move a practice it. You can't wait to try it out. And you find yourself talking to Nazome (or however you spell her name) all the time, to see if there relationship (Ryo & Nozomes) will go anywhere.
But...thats if you really give the game a chance, don't get me wrong, it can be slow. But very very addictive, before you know it you'll through each disc and thirsty for the sequel.
Could'nt have put it better myself C.H, you should listen to this guy, he knows what he's talking about. And besides, you wanna catch up with that Lan Di bugger right?
BigJustinW
03-12-2002, 02:25 PM
Shenume is built for a gamer to understand the environment before the action starts... The first disk is like a training mode, you learn how to use your notebook, and you learn how to use things and talk to people and listen.
on the second disk, you sneak, and learn how to investigate without talking.... but it adds a lot of action.
I'm stil on the second disk, so I'm not gonna read any other posts :p
you should go at least 10 days before you quit all together... the first disk was kinda funny to me
Professor S
03-12-2002, 07:32 PM
Actually, I'm addicted now:D
You guys are right, I just needed to spend more time with it.
Ginkasa
03-12-2002, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by The Strangler
Actually, I'm addicted now:D
You guys are right, I just needed to spend more time with it.
Welcome to da club. brota! *waits for high five*
*looks around*
*cough*
I'm happy for you... *slinks away*
Jason1
03-12-2002, 09:07 PM
I enjoyed the game and all, but considering it was 3 disks, it seemed too short. God I wish they realeased shenmue 2 stateside...oh well...
Professor S
03-12-2002, 09:09 PM
I thought Shenmue 2 was in development for the XBox stateside.
Ginkasa
03-12-2002, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by The Strangler
I thought Shenmue 2 was in development for the XBox stateside.
It is. And you can import from Europe or Japan so its not as bad as some people seem to make it out.
Great, I'm glad we managed to turn you, I will say, Shenmue 2 is even better, theres so much more added to the game and the areas are just 'huge' like, the area on disks 1 + 2 is probably the size of the whole shenmue 1 map combined, if not bigger. Then you go to Kowloon, bloody big place. Despite the japanese voices you get used to it after a while.
Anyway how far are you on Shenmue 1 now (Same question to BigJustinW)
BigJustinW
03-13-2002, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by Link1130
It is. And you can import from Europe or Japan so its not as bad as some people seem to make it out.
I'm sure the Xbox version will have better visuals, and more interactions with environments, but the story will have to remain the same.
Ginkasa
03-13-2002, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by BigJustinW
I'm sure the Xbox version will have better visuals, and more interactions with environments, but the story will have to remain the same.
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Yeah.....
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:confused:
Nope with the X-Box version they will convert all the language.
There will not be any extra interactivity or better graphics, the X-Box isnt a wonder macinene.
Jason1
03-13-2002, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by The Strangler
I thought Shenmue 2 was in development for the XBox stateside.
Ah, sorry, I shouldve been more clear, I meant for the Dreamcast:D
Ginkasa
03-13-2002, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by Ric
Nope with the X-Box version they will convert all the language.
There will not be any extra interactivity or better graphics, the X-Box isnt a wonder macinene.
There will be better graphics. Less slow-down, better textures, less loading times. The XBox is far superior to the DC in terms of technology. There had better be some updates to the graphics.
Don't why I care though. Don't have an XBox..... :unsure:
No trust me, the graphics will not be better, yes less slow down, yes perhaps faster loading times, but the graphics will not be enhanced in any way, perhaps here and there where 'jaggies' are present they will be edited out, but the graphics will not be better.
Why? X-Box has 128 bit graphics like the rest of them, it's not god and I'm gonna play one again today to endorse this opinion in my mind. On top of that they are not going to go to the trouble of making such changes, to textures etc, they are going to convert the language, and get the game on the shelves, X-Box needs a decent game or 2 if it wants to get off the ground.
BigJustinW
03-14-2002, 11:45 AM
Jesus Ric I didn't know you hated Xbox that much
Originally posted by Ric
No trust me, the graphics will not be better, yes less slow down, yes perhaps faster loading times, but the graphics will not be enhanced in any way, perhaps here and there where 'jaggies' are present they will be edited out, but the graphics will not be better.
Post a link... wait I will post a link..
http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/news/0,10870,2817903,00.html
Following that demonstration, Suzuki discussed AM2's development of Shenmue 2 for the Xbox and announced the North American exclusivity for the title. Stating that the title would undergo improvements upon the Dreamcast version, Suzuki did not go into detail of what they would entail, although he did say the game would take advantage of the Xbox hardware.
Why? X-Box has 128 bit graphics like the rest of them, it's not god and I'm gonna play one again today to endorse this opinion in my mind. On top of that they are not going to go to the trouble of making such changes, to textures etc, they are going to convert the language, and get the game on the shelves, X-Box needs a decent game or 2 if it wants to get off the ground.
Um... Shenume 2 isn't going to be an exact port... in fact, it will ungergo more changes that SA:2 Battle for GCN... If they wanted to directly port it and get it out on the shelves as fast as possible, it would already be out, period.
Also, why are you acting like Dreamcast's hardware even compares to Xbox's??? N64 wasn't a wonder machine either, but when it got a Psx port it looked a LOT better.
and Dreamcast is like a new Psx and Xbox is like a new N64 when you compare hardware... You should see NBA 2k2 on Xbox play side by side with the Dreamcast version... and in NBA 2k2 for Xbox , they didn't even try to change anything.
Xbox isn't "God" but it's hardware kicks the crap out of DC's... Sega would be stupid as hel to release that game with no updates because the franchise was supposed to display realistic environments. This game will be a laughing stock if it only has DC quality graphics and no gameplay updates...
*sigh*
Just because you hate Xbox it doesn't mean you should underestimate the hardware. If this game was being brought Exclusivly to Gamecube, you would be talking about how it will have updated visuals...
Professor S
03-14-2002, 09:49 PM
Ric, "bit counting" went out of style with the Turbo Graphiz 16. The number bits has very little to do with game visuals these days. You'll notice in spec comparisons bits aren't even mentioned. The XBox can push more polygons, more and better textures and more colors. This means it has better graphics capabilities. There is no argument about this.
I dont hate the X-Box, in fact I was considering getting one over a PS2, what I hate is the cliched opinion, oooh new console, better graphics. PS2 is supposedly better than Dreamcast but look at Shadow Of Memories, it looks sub-standard compared to Shenmue. I really dont think Shenmue's graphics can be imperoved that much, sure better textures (like mabey in the ground or something), sure less slowdown and perhaps not so much repeated scenery (like the big buildings in Kowloon) but the overall look wont really be much different. Mabey you could see further in the distance before it goes blurry?
I do hope more interactivity with the environment can be introduced, Ryo's house on Shenmue 1 was the absolute apitamy of iteractivity, you could fiddle with everything. Sadly there are no other places like this. I think theres about 1 light switch you can actually use in Shenmue 2, hopefully this will be remedied.
But hey, only time will tell and when the time comes I WILL compare Shenmue 2 for Dreamcast to Shenmue 2 for X-Box. But seriously, you have to have played it to realise theres not that much more they can do.
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