New Jersey governor reveals he's gay

[ZebraRampage]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/12/mcgreevey.nj/index.html

Since it's on all the big news sites I figured someone would post it.

[Typhoid]

Thats no big deal.



Why did he resign? Because hes gay?

[ZebraRampage]

I know it's not a big deal. And I think he resigned to prevent any major problems..with the people...because you know how it is..:unsure:

[GT News]

I know it's not a big deal. And I think he resigned to prevent any major problems..with the people...because you know how it is..:unsure:

How do you know? Give me an example of a big deal.Why? I get it.
resigned to prevent any major problems.That sounds like a plan.Interesting explanation.
Yes I know how it is.I understand.

[Yugi Starwind]

How do you know? Give me an example of a big deal.Why? I get it.
resigned to prevent any major problems.That sounds like a plan.Interesting explanation.
Yes I know how it is.I understand.
i don't believe that i'm going to ssay this, but....I agree with what camfubot just said.

[Jonbo298]

It's good he made public that fact but resigning shows weakness to me because of it. But I guess he kind of had to because there would be huge outlash by people and I would feel shame for the people who do because its his choice.

[Typhoid]

But why would the people who have backed you for years suddenly turn on you because your gay?

[Bond]

Do you people ever look into things? He had a homosexual affair while being married to his wife.

"His administration has been buffeted by some scandal.

A Quinnipiac University poll released August 4 showed McGreevey's approval among state voters fell sharply after two Democratic fund-raisers were indicted on federal charges in July -- one of them accused of lining up prostitutes to discredit a witness in a tax fraud investigation, the other accused of extortion."

[Dyne]

But why would the people who have backed you for years suddenly turn on you because your gay?

You missed the most important word in the report. AFFAIR. With a man.

Somebody told on him. Just like if he had an affair with a woman, his career would be at stake.

[GameMaster]

So will he get a divorce from his wife? Does he like his wife also? Otherwise, I don't understand how he could have kids? :confused:

[Professor S]

There's a lot more to this than that he was gay and had an affair. He is currently under investigation, this happened before he made the announcement, for corruption in his office and appointments. He alledgedly has used public funds to pay off his blackmailing lover, keeping him on as a "non-typing" secretary.

[Typhoid]

There's a lot more to this than that he was gay and had an affair. He is currently under investigation, this happened before he made the announcement, for corruption in his office and appointments. He alledgedly has used public funds to pay off his blackmailing lover, keeping him on as a "non-typing" secretary.



Link please.

[Professor S]

Try watching the news. 1) I live right next to Philly, so its all over the news over here. 2) Its all over the major news channels like CNN and Fox.

[Professor S]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,128933,00.html

On Thursday, McGreevey's office contacted the FBI about alleged extortion attempts by his former lover, Golan Cipel (search), sources told FOX News. The governor's office alleged that Cipel had said he would get rid of a threatened sexual harassment lawsuit for $5 million.

Cipel could not immediately be reached for comment.

Cipel, an Israeli poet, was once employed in the governor's office at salary of $110,000 a year. He was a subject of controversy because although he was designated a homeland security adviser, as a foreign citizen, he could not obtain a federal security clearance. McGreevey later reassigned him to a "special counsel" position, which had no specific duties.

Wow, that took me all of one minute to find and post. See what keeping up on current events gets you?

[Typhoid]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,128933,00.html



Wow, that took me all of one minute to find and post. See what keeping up on current events gets you?


You dont have to be a douche about it you know. I asked micely, and you snap back at me. Sorry i dont watch CNN or live near New jersey my friend. I'll try and move tehre and watch news all day long just to please you.

[Crono]

Typhoid, I have a question for you. If you never keep up on current events (cause the way it sounds, you don't at all), why do you get involved into political discussions?

Not trying to be an ass or anything, I'm just asking.

[Fox 6]

Typhoid, I have a question for you. If you never keep up on current events (cause the way it sounds, you don't at all), why do you get involved into political discussions?

Not trying to be an ass or anything, I'm just asking.

Well I guess he just wants to express his opinion on the situation. Eveyone has a right to be heard.

[Typhoid]

Typhoid, I have a question for you. If you never keep up on current events (cause the way it sounds, you don't at all), why do you get involved into political discussions?

Not trying to be an ass or anything, I'm just asking.




Has it occured to you that im an opinionated a**hole at anytime?

I like to speak my mind, nomatter how much or how little i know. Its what i do. Im never blatently claiming im right at anything i say. I learn things by doing it however, i learn things about current events, without having to sit through the news.

Now, dont get me wrong, i do keep up with certain current events, just because i dont know certain things taht are happening on the east coast of the US, doesnt mean i know nothing of current events. And im not claiming i know alot that happen on the west coast of Canada.

i do watch the news, but i dont read the paper every day about foreign affairs, i dont watch CNN every day to see whats going on in the US. I have things arond my own community to be aware of.

Like 2 days ago a man jumped out of his car, shot a woman, and got 14 bullets put through his torso by the cops.
A man drove by, grabbed the woman and rushed her to the hospital while being shot at by the shooter.
All of this happened 10 minutes ( not even) from my house.

Im not saying any of you know of this, because it didnt happen near you. And im not going to call you out on it either.

[Crono]

So you just speak whatever's on your mind, not caring if it makes you look like a dumbass or not? Sorry but I think that's a pretty dumb way to do things, and makes your arguements useless.

Just my own opinion, if you don't know what you're talking about, you don't belong in a debate. I'm sorry, but 'tis the truth.

[GT News]

So you just speak whatever's on your mind, not caring if it makes you look like a dumbass or not? Sorry but I think that's a pretty dumb way to do things, and makes your arguements useless.

Just my own opinion, if you don't know what you're talking about, you don't belong in a debate. I'm sorry, but 'tis the truth.

Interesting deduction. Thanks for your criticism, .There is no need to apologize. And.
Not if I can help it.Where did you get your
own opinion if you do not know what you are talking about you do not belong in a debate?There is no need to apologize. Huh.
What do you have that is ?

[Typhoid]

So you just speak whatever's on your mind, not caring if it makes you look like a dumbass or not? Sorry but I think that's a pretty dumb way to do things, and makes your arguements useless.

Just my own opinion, if you don't know what you're talking about, you don't belong in a debate. I'm sorry, but 'tis the truth.



Where did i say i dont care if i look like a dumbass?

And so your telling me if i thought i wasnt a dumbass, my arguments would be more valid?

[Crono]

Where did i say i dont care if i look like a dumbass?

And so your telling me if i thought i wasnt a dumbass, my arguments would be more valid?

You said that you didn't care if you were right or wrong. As far as I'm concerned, a wrong person = dumbass.

And yes, if you knew what you were talking about, your arguements would indeed be more valid.

[Typhoid]

You said that you didn't care if you were right or wrong. As far as I'm concerned, a wrong person = dumbass.

And yes, if you knew what you were talking about, your arguements would indeed be more valid.


Thats not what you said the first time.


" Sorry but I think that's a pretty dumb way to do things, and makes your arguements useless"

Referring to if I care that I look like a dumbass.

Now you say

"And yes, if you knew what you were talking about, your arguements would indeed be more valid"

Referring to if i know what im talking about.

These both mean way different things.


So before you try to confuse me once more, please stick to a side. Dont Kerry it up in here.

So your saying, evryone whos ever been wrong about something is a dumbass? Thats a little messed up if you ask me.

[Crono]

Thats not what you said the first time.


" Sorry but I think that's a pretty dumb way to do things, and makes your arguements useless"

Referring to if I care that I look like a dumbass.

Now you say

"And yes, if you knew what you were talking about, your arguements would indeed be more valid"

Referring to if i know what im talking about.

These both mean way different things.


So before you try to confuse me once more, please stick to a side. Dont Kerry it up in here.

So your saying, evryone whos ever been wrong about something is a dumbass? Thats a little messed up if you ask me.

Ok, my basic point was/is that, if someone doesn't know what they are talking about, and try to argue with someone. They are a dumbass and they do make themselves look like an idiot to everyone else.

I'm just saying in previous debates you followed a similar path. Anyway, I'm done... this was a pointless arguement anyway.

[Jonbo298]

I thought the US media was evil and one-sided and bringing media into discussions got you flamed :p (mainly political but meh)

[Dark Samurai]

Well that sucks, my governor is gay.

Oh well, he accomplished many things in office.

[Typhoid]

Well that sucks, my governor is gay.

Oh well, he accomplished many things in office.


Like anal sex with another man?



No, im kidding. Dont bash me for that.

So, like.....whos going to be his replacement?

[GameMaster]

Like anal sex with another man?



No, im kidding. Dont bash me for that.

So, like.....whos going to be his replacement?

I'm going to require you to answer that question for the rest of us to make up for your wildly innappropiate comment. The best way for you to find the answer will be to browse news sites like CNN. You have 24 hours, if the answer isn't in here, we're going to decorate your reputation panel red.

[thatmariolover]

Dude. What the hell guys? Let the man speak his mind. Seriously. He was joking about the whole accomplishment thing. Honestly. You're all just jumping down Typhoids throat because he asked for a link and made some jokes. Yeah, he could have looked for it himself. But if Strangler wanted to post info, he could have linked to it as well. I'm not saying he should have; I'm just saying it would have saved trouble.

As for the joke: I really don't think he meant it to be mean. The guy had a sexual homosexual relationship; that generally includes anal sex (or so I'm assuming :sneaky: ). Big deal that he decided to spell it out. It's like saying a guy had a sexual heterosexual affair. You know what that means too. I've got no problem with homosexuality. It's the way this went down that's really bad.

So can we all just chill? Get off Typhoid's back. Quit with the -rep fun some of you are probably sending him?

[The Germanator]

So can we all just chill? Get off Typhoid's back. Quit with the -rep fun some of you are probably sending him?

Ehm...I think you need to re-examine the person who posted right before you and remember that it's Gamemaster. The guy is usually joking around, and by usually I mean, always...So yeah

[thatmariolover]

Uh, I know it was GameMaster. And I know he's a great guy - but he's also an admin. And generally when an admin says something like that, people are wise to heed their post. Yet I wasn't trying to aim my post at him (note how I didn't quote him). But I'm pretty sure he's serious. And if he's not, I apologize for misinterpreting him.

But again, my post wasn't at all aimed at GameMaster. There were a couple of people I felt were flaming Typhoid unnecessarily. And by saying "-rep fun some of you are probably sending him" I did indeed mean that plurally (some of you: more than one).

[Bond]

Actually, GameMaster is a moderator.

[Professor S]

MarioLover, we are on Typhoid's back because he doesn't feel that he needs to educate himself for his opinions to be taken seriously. That is a SERIOUS flaw that he needs to correct if he ever wants anyone to take him or his opinions seriously.

Its fine that he's opinionated and is passionate about his opinions, but if he's basing those opinions on ignornance no one will care what he says and in the end he's just babbling to himself.

[Typhoid]

MarioLover, we are on Typhoid's back because he doesn't feel that he needs to educate himself for his opinions to be taken seriously.



i dont think i ever said i "dont feel the need" to educate myself. I just dont. Hel, who wouldnt like to learn more, and know more stuff?

And like i said, i dont care if my opinions are taken seriously or not, opinions are subjective. Its up to the reader. I look at people here ( not naming names, because ther is more than one) who say things, some back then with sites some dont, and i dont always take their arguments seriously.

An opinion is a personal feeling and thought, I never knew to share an opinion you have to back it up with side notes, references, citing, and pretty much turn it into an essay.

[Professor S]

Opinions based on ignorance, are ignorant. Get used to being ridiculed for them.

[Typhoid]

Opinions based on ignorance, are ignorant. Get used to being ridiculed for them.



And like i said, i dont care if my opinions are taken seriously or not, opinions are subjective



About what you said about ignorant questions being ignorent, where in the world did you come up with that gem? Its like saying a Giraffe has a big neck.

[Professor S]

I really wanted to say something profound here, but I am completely baffled by this conversation. Its one thing for someone to be stupid, but to be proud of their stupidity defies words. I cry for the future. Later.

[Typhoid]

I really wanted to say something profound here, but I am completely baffled by this conversation. Its one thing for someone to be stupid, but to be proud of their stupidity defies words. I cry for the future. Later.



Again. Where did i say i was proud?

I never said i was proud, i never said i cared. Im Indifferent.

Before telling someone they are wrong, read a little, get your facts straight, then try it. Thank you.