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gekko
06-20-2004, 06:34 PM
Just Like High-Definition TV, but With Higher Definition
By DOUGLAS HEINGARTNER

Published: June 3, 2004

HIGH-DEFINITION television may be only just beginning to catch on, but researchers at the Japanese national broadcaster NHK are already working on a successor. The format, called Ultra High Definition Video, or UHDV, has a resolution 16 times greater than plain-old HDTV, and its stated goal is to achieve a level of sensory immersion that approximates actually being there.

At a picture size of 7,680 by 4,320 pixels - that works out to 32 million pixels - UHDV's resolution trounces even high-end digital still cameras. HDTV, by comparison, has about two million pixels, and normal TV about 200,000 (and only 480 lines of horizontal resolution versus 4,000 with UHDV).

Add to that UHDV's beefed-up refresh rate of 60 frames per second (twice that of conventional video), projected onto a 450-inch diagonal screen with more than 20 channels of audio, and you've got an impressive home theater on your hands.

Of course, UHDV's current dimensions make it impractical for most homes. The NHK researchers are investigating how to squeeze all those pixels onto smaller screens.

But the project aims to do more than just make home entertainment more realistic. The UHDV standard may someday find applications in museums, hospitals, shopping malls or other places where a keener representation of detail might be desirable.

All of that is a long way off, however, because the standard is still in the early stages of development. UHDV "will take many years," said Fumio Okano, a researcher with the network. But NHK is familiar with long-term projects: it began developing the HDTV standard in 1964, and the first high-definition content arrived only in 1982.

The pixel count of UHDV may be impressive, but as anyone who has tried to watch TV on a sunny beach knows, pixels are not the whole picture. "Resolution is only one of the key measurements," said John Lowry of Lowry Digital Images, a company in Burbank, Calif., that digitizes films at the highest possible quality for archival purposes. Perhaps even more important than pixels, he said, is the dynamic range of an image, which is measured in terms of contrast ratio. The eye can perceive contrasts between the brightest white and the darkest black of roughly 100,000 to one, whereas today's best projectors can only muster levels of about 4,000 to one.

To achieve truly realistic images, Mr. Lowry said, "the blacks have to be really black, while still seeing the glint off a diamond."

So while current projection technology cannot meet the demands of UHDV, the standard excels in other crucial areas, for example breadth of view. While both UHDV and HDTV use the widescreen 16:9 aspect ratio (standard TV uses 4:3), HDTV offers only a 30-degree field of view horizontally, whereas UHDV's massive screen size expands this to about 100 degrees, said Mr. Okano, who said his research indicates that this angle is where "immersive sensation" peaks.

In developing UHDV, NHK has also focused on sound. The standard calls for 22.2 sound: 10 speakers at ear level, 9 above and 3 below, with another 2 for low frequency effects. It is a setup that is well beyond the level of the multichannel systems currently in vogue, like the 5.1 surround system.

All those sound channels and all those image pixels add up to a lot of data. In test, an 18-minute UHDV video gobbled up 3.5 terabytes of storage (equivalent to about 750 DVD's). The data was transmitted over 16 channels at a total rate of 24 gigabits per second, thousands of times faster than a typical D.S.L. connection.

The realism creates other complications. The NHK is studying the physical and psychological effects of UHDV on audiences. One concern is a kind of motion sickness, which researchers attribute to a combination of the wide viewing angle, the massive image and the on-screen motion.

There are other reasons to shy away from maximum reality, some of them aesthetic. "There is a very common practice," Mr. Lowry said, "of putting a filter on a camera just to soften the image, to reduce the resolution." Movie stars are now learning the hard way that high-definition is hard on human imperfections: blemishes and bad makeup invisible to conventional TV suddenly jump to the fore when filmed in high-definition format; how will aging celebrities fare with UHDV?

But UHDV's developers do not intend the standard exclusively as a vehicle for Hollywood, or even for sports or news, where HDTV has flourished. They point to potentially useful applications in medicine, education, or art appreciation. The new format has also been designed to be compatible with other standards - unlike, for example, IMAX, a 70-millimeter film format that has unsurpassed quality but a unique infrastructure that limits its mass-market potential.

Are audiences even warming up to high-definition television? While sales of HDTV sets are gradually increasing, the growth remains less than spectacular. With only 15 million to 18 million HDTV sets currently in the United States, "we haven't even scraped the tip of the iceberg yet," said Vamsi Sistla, an analyst with the research firm Allied Business Intelligence.

Navigating the jungle of standards and terminology remains confusing, and a complete high-definition set (including tuner) costs several thousand dollars. Consumers, Mr. Sistla said, "are not too keen on the nitty-gritty. They're looking at the price point, at sexy flat screens.''

The NHK is still years from having to worry about how to sell UHDV to consumers. Perhaps the format will always be out of reach for most consumers. However, while it took 40 years, HDTV eventually gained a foothold.

"I applaud them," Mr. Lowry said of the NHK. "They are reaching off into what a lot of people might call never-never land at the moment. But why not?"

Imagine playing games in 4320p with dts 22.2 channel surround sound :drool: Oh well, keep dreaming. HD-DVD still hasn't arrived, much less SHDTV. I say we may see UHDV in 50 years.

Typhoid
06-20-2004, 06:44 PM
So they made HDTV.....Then Ultra-high definition tv.

Its never going to end, soon it will be Super-ultra-high definition tv, or Omega-super-ultra-high definition tv.

When will this madness end!?!?!?

gekko
06-20-2004, 06:54 PM
Actually, they made HDTV, and then Super High Definition, now Ultra High Definition. Still waiting on SHD, but who knows if it's even going to catch on.

HD-DVD is still on the way as well. D-VHS has pretty much officially flopped though.

Problem is, everything is coming together slowly. Technology isn't the problem, it's the broadcasting industry. They can't decide on a ****ing standard, so we're still using HD receivers instead of our TVs having the decoders built-in. they're slowly buying the equipment to broadcast in HDTV, and slowly starting to film in widescreen. The broadcast industry is being left behind, but the problem is that's what is going to make the general consumer more likely to buy the new technology. It's easy to tell someone to buy this new widescreen TV, plug in the cable wire and you're set. But instead you need to tell them "to receive HD TV signals, you'll need digital cable or satellite, and you'll need a separate receiver, and then only certain stations are broadcasting in HD. Once they're done, they'll have a TV, a separate box to receive the dish or digital cable signal, and another box for the HD receiver.

But TV aside, we came out with 1080i TVs, but now 1080p is becoming more popular. TVs have also gone from rear-projection, to LCD, to plasma, to DLP. DVDs are good, but they made a better picture with D-VHS, and now both are being beaten by HD-DVD, which will support the higher resolutions of HDTVs (1080p instead of 480p). Game systems are advancing too, DVDs are stuck at 480p, games are now regularly seeing 720p, and next generation we might see the start of 1080p.

Typhoid
06-20-2004, 06:59 PM
But they cant advance this much.

The advancement has been insane, and im getting slightly sick of it.

There have been numerous "better" things such as HDTV, plasma, HD DVD etc.
But if the companies were smart, they would wait awhile for the consumer to purchase these, then release the new stuff.

Dont say, " Were making a new TV that will be released in a month, but an even better one a month after that"

I dont see the big consumer rush for HD this and HD that. sure its good, but if you sit on your ass so much watching TV, and the fact you cant see the faces on hockey players pisses you off, you need help.

TV is TV. Its a media box. a way to spend a couple of hours a day to relax. Its like Newspapers releasing HD prints. It would do no good to me.

Professor S
06-20-2004, 07:16 PM
The problem isn't with the broadcast stations, its with the manufacturers and their pricing. They are literally pricing themselves out of the market. Broadcast and Cable station aren't going to change their broadcast to fit HDTV stations when a fraction of their viewing audeince have them. Their revenues will plummet.

I know of a lot of people who have the kind of money needed to purchase a high end TV, but refuse to because they simply don't want to spend a lot of money on a TV set. Once the prices come down, you'll see more HDTV stations catch on.

Jonbo298
06-20-2004, 09:37 PM
I have to agree that technology is moving too fast. VHS has been around for 20+ years (not 100% sure but its been quite awhile), and DVD has been mainstream for maybe 7-8+ years and we are already looking at Blu Ray and this huge variety of TV's that are better then the older ones. EDTV, HDTV, etc etc...Just settle on variation. EDTV will be dead before you know it and HDTV will be around for awhile until we see the next 3 variations of TV...SHDTV,UHDTV, etc etc...

Its great and all that this technology is possible but not for home use yet. But hopefully they wait quite awhile before making it for mainstream use.

Happydude
06-21-2004, 12:44 AM
i agree with strangler...the only thing stopping most people is the price...if it was to be lowered, a lot more people would buy HDTVs and the broadcast stations would buy the equipment needed to film in HD quality...


but on the UHDV topic...:drool: