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Vampyr
06-03-2004, 05:32 PM
Let me tell you, if you will, a tale of a teenager and his PS2, and a quest for FFXI.

It all began one day at wal mart, when he bought FFXI, a modem adapter, and a keyboard. He dished out a lot of his hard earned cash for this game and all the accessories, but he thought it was worth it.

He took it all home. He was very excited. He got the game started, and began to download the updates, install it, etc. Then, when it started the final downloading process, an error occured. This error occured every time he tried to start his game, and he never got to play.

But, he stilled had the receit. He recalled from memory that a commrade of his had once purchased a DDR dance mat from the same store, and the back arrow and stopped working. The commrade still had the reciet, so he returned the mat, and the store let him exchange it for a video game of equal value.

Now, the lad with the FFXI game wants to return it. He can claim it doesnt work. Because rightfully, it doesnt.

But, the boy questions whether he should also return the keyboard and network adapter. He could still play other game's online, he thinks, but he doesnt know if it's worth it or not.

The boy uses dial up, so he doesnt know how well any PS2 online games will work.

So he decided to seek help, at the local Game Tavern. He requests other's opinions, and he wants to know what are some good online PS2 games out right now, or coming out in the future, that will work on dial up, and run properly.

If the list is promising, and online gaming sounds worth it, and fun, he may keep the network adapter, and only return the HDD. With the returned HDD, he could afford a console game, and a GBA game.

The boy would also like to know if he should return the keyboard or not. Does the keyboard work with any other PS2 online games? Is it worth it?

+rep for any help, especially if it is quick help, because if I return it, I'll be returning it tomorrow, probably before I watch Harry Potter III: Prisoner of Azkaban. :cool:

Crono
06-03-2004, 05:52 PM
Heh, Vampyr... it's not the game that isn't working, it's your lousy connection! If you can somehow get the updates downloaded, keep the game.

And at the moment I do not know of any online PS2 games that are even worth owning (aside from FFXI, which, I decided that I wasn't going to quit afterall). If you want console online games, get an Xbox w/ Live.

Vampyr
06-03-2004, 07:53 PM
Heh, Vampyr... it's not the game that isn't working, it's your lousy connection! If you can somehow get the updates downloaded, keep the game.

And at the moment I do not know of any online PS2 games that are even worth owning (aside from FFXI, which, I decided that I wasn't going to quit afterall). If you want console online games, get an Xbox w/ Live.

Heh. I know it's my connection. But if I tell the store that it "randomly stops working" what are they gonna do? sit down and play it till something messes up?

I would like an Xbox w/ live, but, unless I'm mistaken, Live only works with broadband connections.

But I still dont know if I should keep the network adapter or not. :\

Crono
06-03-2004, 07:58 PM
Well all I can say is... get broadband. If you really cant get those updates or can't get broadband.. then.. eh, I guess your S.O.L.

GiMpY-wAnNaBe
06-03-2004, 09:09 PM
...that boy sounds familiar....

Null
06-03-2004, 11:29 PM
keyboard works with most games. However depending on the price it might not be worth it because ANY usb keyboard works the same for PS2. so just using a $10 PC usb keyboard is perfect like i use

Vampyr
06-03-2004, 11:35 PM
keyboard works with most games. However depending on the price it might not be worth it because ANY usb keyboard works the same for PS2. so just using a $10 PC usb keyboard is perfect like i use


The cheapest one I could find was 30. It made me angry that I couldnt get a cheaper one, because I know that much cheaper ones exist. but oh well.

It turns out that my stupid theatre is holding Shrek 2 over tomorrow. I wont be able to see HP3 until next weekend. *curses*

I have a whole week to decide if I want to keep my Network Adapter or not.

Typhoid
06-03-2004, 11:53 PM
IMO a few games worth playing online are ATV offroad fury 2 ( its not great, it gets boring after a while), NHL 2004 , so you can kick the crap out of people you dont know, and finally Fight Night 2004, freakingly awesome game to play online.

Null
06-04-2004, 09:23 AM
IMO a few games worth playing online are ATV offroad fury 2 ( its not great, it gets boring after a while), NHL 2004 , so you can kick the crap out of people you dont know, and finally Fight Night 2004, freakingly awesome game to play online.



NHL 04 sucks online. you cant find anyone who plays at decent settings, they all turn speed up full blast and its lame.

ESPN Hockey is better. servers arent as good as EA's but the people playing play on better settings.

Vampyr
06-04-2004, 10:52 AM
NHL 04 sucks online. you cant find anyone who plays at decent settings, they all turn speed up full blast and its lame.

ESPN Hockey is better. servers arent as good as EA's but the people playing play on better settings.

Hey Null, do you think Grand Tourismo 4 and Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal will run good on dial up?

Also, are there any good online shooters currently out for the PS2, or coming out soon?

Null
06-04-2004, 11:53 AM
Hey Null, do you think Grand Tourismo 4 and Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal will run good on dial up?

Also, are there any good online shooters currently out for the PS2, or coming out soon?


i dont play console shooters, hate em. lack of control.


Its hard to say how the others will run online. i've never played a console online game with dialup.

Jonbo298
06-04-2004, 11:55 AM
GT4 might be able to run on dialup if it was just a 1 on 1 dual. Outside of that might be overkill for it.

If you know ANYONE with a high speed connection, tell them you NEED to mooch it for a few hours, since I've seen Square's horrible program that downloads the updates..why they need to unzip it right after downloading that file is beyond me.

Null
06-04-2004, 12:04 PM
GT4 might be able to run on dialup if it was just a 1 on 1 dual. Outside of that might be overkill for it.

If you know ANYONE with a high speed connection, tell them you NEED to mooch it for a few hours, since I've seen Square's horrible program that downloads the updates..why they need to unzip it right after downloading that file is beyond me.

because its connecting to a server and not each person. it shouldnt matter whether its all 6 or 1on1.

the server would still send the same amount of info to the dialup user for them to download. However if its syncing and connecting to each player to player it would be differnt.

only online game i've ever played on dialup was Quake 1 for PC back in the day. the only differnce really was that some things didnt count that you thought shoulda. because your connection is slower. so if it looked like i shot someone on my screen, in reality it might not of actually hit them. Didnt make a diff how many people were playing. 1 or 12

but consoles may work differntly and i've never played a console game on dialup.

Typhoid
06-04-2004, 06:11 PM
I forgot to say an awesome online game is Socom Navy seals 2.. its decently supreme.

Hero2
06-04-2004, 06:28 PM
Get cable just for the sake of playing FFXI I did. :D

What was the error in FFXI and have you contacted S.E. to see what causes the error???

Crono
06-04-2004, 07:18 PM
Get cable just for the sake of playing FFXI I did. :D

What was the error in FFXI and have you contacted S.E. to see what causes the error???

From what he's told me, it was his connection that drops while getting the updates. Nothing wrong with Play Online.

Vampyr
06-04-2004, 11:30 PM
Get cable just for the sake of playing FFXI I did. :D

What was the error in FFXI and have you contacted S.E. to see what causes the error???

Cable or DSL is not offered to me, so that's out of the question. And yeah, I've contacted S.E., nothing they can do. But like I said, I can just take it back to the store and be like "it messed up", and just be very very vague on what's wrong with it, and I'll switch it for something else.

And typhoid, if I'm not mistaken, you can only play SOCOM on a broadband connection.

TheSlyMoogle
06-11-2004, 07:49 PM
Um you must remember Wal-Mart's policy. No cash back, and if it's opened you can only exchange for another item.

Also the only reason that kid (me) got to exchange DDR was because Wal-Mart didn't have anymore, and they weren't expected to get anymore.

Vampyr
06-12-2004, 06:55 PM
Um you must remember Wal-Mart's policy. No cash back, and if it's opened you can only exchange for another item.

Also the only reason that kid (me) got to exchange DDR was because Wal-Mart didn't have anymore, and they weren't expected to get anymore.

Yeah, I knew Wal-Mart's policy about no cash back. I wasnt even expecting to get my money back, so I didnt even ask for it. My whole intention was to trade it for something else.

So, let me tell you the story of what happened today (the day I returned the game.)

Before I left to go to Wal-Mart, I formatted the harddrive in which I was returning. I wanted to make sure that none of my credit card info, etc was still on it. I put all of the stuff back in the box it came in, and grabbed the reciet I had been keeping for 2 months.

Then, I began the journey to wal-mart. When I arrived, I handed over the FFXI box to the lady at the door and she put a sticker thing on it. Then I took it to the return counter. I made up a story about how a couple weeks ago it just stopped working randomly. She said I could exchange. I ask her if I could exchange for something of equal value instead, and she said no. I was very dissapointed, but I just thought I would exchange anyway, and sell the new sealed game on Ebay, for more than I could get with a used version.

I got another FFXI box, and took it back up front. When I got there, I was amazed to see ANOTHER woman was running the return desk. I kind of glanced around and saw that the other woman was gone. So then I made a decision to completely change my story from the last womans.

So I told her the truth. I said the game wouldnt work with my connection, and I dont think that the new one will work either. She told me she didnt think she was allowed to exchange it for something else. So she picked up the phone, then walked off somewhere, then came back again. Then she said "ok honey, go get whatever you want."

So I went and grabbed this super awesome NES style GBA SP and paid the extra 12 bucks. Wow this baby is awesome.

I was so suprised that I had gotten so lucky as to see another woman there. The lesson from all this? Just tell the truth in the first place.

Edit: My brother bought Metal Arms: Glitch in the System for the PS2 while we were there. Only 20 bucks, and it's an AWESOME game. I cant believe that some of the most underated, yet awesome games, are selling for 20 dollars. You can get things like Metal Arms and Beyond Good and Evil for only 20 dollars. I like it, but I dont think normal people see what they are missing. This has been an excellent day. I lucked out and got a GBA, and have a new game that I didnt pay for. :D