View Full Version : DS VS PSP
tarakan69
05-12-2004, 10:45 AM
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what exactly are you tryin to compare?
graphics? i think basically everyone realizes that PSP does better graphics. And for the target audience of each handheld i dont think the graphics matter.
PSP will go for older people who want to use it for more of a portable media player as well as play some games
DS will go for the younger ones who want a ton of games
as far as games go for me. i outgrew the appeal of a portable system long long ago. but PSP has me interested to play movie files on. dunno if i'll get it. but it has me interested at least.
DS basically i feel will be like any gameboy. so i dont plan on going anywhere near it.
tarakan69
05-12-2004, 10:55 AM
I'm showing graphics. Yes.
I thought that was pretty obvious.
I haven't seen anybody post any DS in-game screenshots... why not compare them to PSP? It's only fair that the two handhelds are put side to side.
Canyarion
05-12-2004, 11:07 AM
*doesn't care much about graphics*
If I want gorgeous games, I'll play them on my console. :)
TheGame
05-12-2004, 11:47 AM
Ugh... I hate that I'm even going to state this but...
If DS had better graphics people who like Gameboy would use it as a reason that DS is better... but because PSP had better graphics the people who still want a DS will say Graphics are irrelevant. And yes, it works both ways. ;)
So with that said, I've never been much of a fan of handhelds except before my Pokemon days. But PSP brings games to the table that I am interested it. MGS and Gran Turismo are two of my favorite games... if it has a decent version of Madden and a more classic Tony Hawk (THPS1-3 style), I would say by FAR it's better than DS. I don't care for the extra features all too much, but the game line up is jaw-dropping in my opinion.
The Germanator
05-12-2004, 11:58 AM
I want to play new handheld versions of Mario and Zelda games, so I'll get a DS, it's as simple as that. I was raised on classic Nintendo games, so I need no better reason to think I'll enjoy DS. That said, PSP looks fantastic. I'm afraid it just has too many features which will up the cost. I don't need a portable movie player or whatever else it does...I just don't...I'll play my Sony titles on the big screen.
Rndm_Perfection
05-12-2004, 11:59 AM
PSP graphics are awesome for a handheld, and so are DS's (though PSP is the superior, as I conclude from the given screenshots)... but I like 2D games on my handhelds. I'm hoping that PSP and DS won't kill 2D gaming in the way that Playstation and N64 did.
Crash
05-12-2004, 12:46 PM
the nintendo 64 did way better than the dreamcast because of games. sure the graphics were better on the dreamcast, but it didn't boil down to that.
the black and white gameboy did better than the color sega gamegear. the gamegear had wayyy better graphics, but nintendo killed em. that is due to games, and battery life.... depending on the price of the psp, i might just get both, but i'm definately getting the ds because of the games.
Nintendo is doing Metroid hunters to remind us a little of what goldeneye was on the 64, mario 64 because, well it's mario 64. all we need now is a new waverace, super smash brothers, and starfox.
originally i knew i was going to get a PSP and not a DS, but sony is so far behind, and it reminds me a lot of the n-gage as far a looks go. I'm just used to flip designs now.
tarakan69
05-12-2004, 12:53 PM
the nintendo 64 did way better than the dreamcast because of games. sure the graphics were better on the dreamcast, but it didn't boil down to that.
the black and white gameboy did better than the color sega gamegear. the gamegear had wayyy better graphics, but nintendo killed em. that is due to games, and battery life.... depending on the price of the psp, i might just get both, but i'm definately getting the ds because of the games.
Nintendo is doing Metroid hunters to remind us a little of what goldeneye was on the 64, mario 64 because, well it's mario 64. all we need now is a new waverace, super smash brothers, and starfox.
originally i knew i was going to get a PSP and not a DS, but sony is so far behind, and it reminds me a lot of the n-gage as far a looks go. I'm just used to flip designs now.
1. The Dreamcast came out 3.5 years after the N64. Stupid comparison.
2. Game Gear drained 6 batteries in 2 hours. (I have one) and was a brick.
3. The new Metroid is Prime: Echoes in worse graphics (the multiplayer at least
This makes DS look like a toy. GBA:SP is nice and cool... DS is not.
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The DS makes me crap my pants. Kickass wireless functions, touch screen to draw, microphone support to talk to your games (like Fire Emblem.. commanding your troops =o) and to talk to other people... man. PSP may play games and movies, but.. DS.. Oh god. Oh SNAP.
Really, the battery life for the PSP is going to be like, what, 2.5 hours. That's no good for a plane ride.
Just the GAMES on the DS.. christ, I've always wanted an Animal Crossing portable version, and the Wario Wares sounds AWESOME.
PSP is the same old crap. GT game, MGS game. Sure, it's got a big screen, nice graphics. I can't imagine having FUN with it like I will with the DS.
Besides, (damage control), that's not the final design and name for the DS.. they've said that.
DeathsHand
05-12-2004, 01:32 PM
PSP's graphics are definately better, but after seeing both (although I only saw Nintendo's press conference, I've read up on the PSP) I'm more excited about the DS...
The two screens don't excite me all that much (there could be some nice ways to use them, but so far all they've shown are maps, maps, and more maps), but the wireless network, the Wi-Fi, touch screens, and built in mic... Plus backwards compatibility... And (most likely) cheaper price tag than PSP... Plus it's supposed to come out before PSP...
But I still think PSP has potential, and the way Sony was making it out to sound before E3, it could very well end up with most of those things the DS has (minus two screens)... I'm just worried bout the price...
mickydaniels
05-12-2004, 01:34 PM
but I like 2D games on my handhelds. I'm hoping that PSP and DS won't kill 2D gaming in the way that Playstation and N64 did.
They better not :mad: ............
Actually PSP also has built in Wi Fi. (i bold that cuz people dont seem to realize it or keep forgetting it.)
PSP also has a built in USB 2.0 port to connect to PC's Cell phones, PS2/PS3
As far as voice com goes, i would NOT want that. and im surprised nintendo put it in.
When your on a plane, the guy next to you is going to smack you one if your talking to your damn gameboy during the trip. If your in a car ride with someone. do they really want to hear you talking to it?
maybe other ppl will. but i would never use it. i'll leave that function on my PC.
But if you must btw, since the PSP has a usb port, you can just plug in a headset from the PS2 with a mic and heaphones together. :p
Games. as far as i've seen are a lot more interesting on PSP.
so far games on DS look like they been done before, expecially a remake of mario.
PSP seems to have some newer games like GT4, MGS, Viewtiful Joe (yes, VJ is going to kick ass on PSP :) )
Me personally IF i were to get it i'd be getting it for its other fuctions as a media player tho. i've wasted too much money already on gameboys that i never touched when i got them.
and crash. thoes were pretty bad comparisons man. lol. come on. seriously. But i do understand your point and is something ya never know about. people said the same when PS1 was coming out that a new guy would never make it with the likes of Sega and Nintendo.
Perfect Stu
05-12-2004, 01:47 PM
Dyne: PSP battery life expected to be around 10 hours
I'm a playstation brand guy now, it seems. Sony seems to put its weight on high-tech, digital entertainment with an insane amount of possibilities. Nintendo is sticking with the 'just gaming' attitude.
The thing is, though, that the PSP games look and sound a lot better than the DS's...plus I'm almost as excited about the other features of the PSP...movies, music, USB connectivity, memory sticks, etc.
Rndm_Perfection
05-12-2004, 01:50 PM
Just the GAMES on the DS.. christ, I've always wanted an Animal Crossing portable version, and the Wario Wares sounds AWESOME.
PSP is the same old crap. GT game, MGS game. Sure, it's got a big screen, nice graphics. I can't imagine having FUN with it like I will with the DS.
lmfao... Yep, "same old crap." Is it the fact that the PSP has games you've seen elsewhere? From the same franchises, that is?
It's the same on every console and now handheld, and it's most definately evident in the Cube and now DS... the "same old crap" is reproduced over and over. You mentioned some for both sides. PSP is getting a GT and MSG... we've seen that before, why can't we get new games? Yet, you're excited about Animal Crossing and a Wario game? Aren't those also well known titles?
I don't doubt that experience and familiarity can produce good games, but I do doubt that I'll buy a MGS, a GT, a Mario, a Zelda, and a Halo for all generations of the big three (oh yeah, Sonic). Characters get old, and I want to see something fresh... but I don't want to see crap either.
So, yes, PSP does have the same old crap. What has all of E3 been? The same old crap, and all parts of that crap are enjoyed by groups of people who have associated themselves with the games they've tested and loved. Halo2, MGS3, All 10 or so of the new Mario games, The three or four Zelda games, some new Metroids, Viewtiful Joes reprinted on new systems, Gran Turismos... same old crap, but they're still selling systems.
Both DS and PSP will have amazing games. It all depends on your style. There is no comparison.
Jonbo298
05-12-2004, 01:58 PM
I'm not getting the PSP for 2 main reasons. Price and price because they feel the need to cram **** in there.
Nintendo's just gaming attitude is perfect for me. When I have a handheld thats supposed to play games, thats all I want. Price stays reasonable and I can game all I want. I dont want a product with 10 things in it just so that they can charge a **** load more for it. Just give me the damn games.
And in response to DS games already been done before. PSP has the same thing. VJ has been done before, GT has been before, MGS has been done before.
And in response to DS games already been done before. PSP has the same thing. VJ has been done before, GT has been before, MGS has been done before.
i believe the 'DS games have been done before' comment was in response to the PSP games have been done bofore comment bfore that. keeps going in a loop. lol
Jonbo298
05-12-2004, 02:05 PM
i believe the 'DS games have been done before' comment was in response to the PSP games have been done bofore comment bfore that. keeps going in a loop. lol
Good, thats what I want:devil:
Rndm_Perfection
05-12-2004, 02:30 PM
i believe the 'DS games have been done before' comment was in response to the PSP games have been done bofore comment bfore that. keeps going in a loop. lol
Just goes to show how valid certain arguements can get here...
I'm not getting the PSP for 2 main reasons. Price and price because they feel the need to cram **** in there.
Nintendo's just gaming attitude is perfect for me. When I have a handheld thats supposed to play games, thats all I want. Price stays reasonable and I can game all I want. I dont want a product with 10 things in it just so that they can charge a **** load more for it. Just give me the damn games.
Well, yes, it'd be a waste of money to get the PSP and just use it for games. The same can go for the DS though... WiFi, touch-sensitive screens, and voice-command are extra features that bump up the price a wee bit. With the DS, however, those features are added to enhance gaming.
Why am I going to buy PSP if it's so expensive?:
- I'd actually enjoy the extra features, and the extra features would spare me from purchasing another portable gadget if I ever wanted one (i.e. MP3 player, video player... I've though of getting one, but I don't want to carry around more than necessary).
- The game prices are super low.
- Like the consoles, this handheld has games that other handhelds do not... games that I have a higher compatability to.
And quite possibly most importantly...
- I do not have to rely on holidays or my parents anymore. I've got a job and no responsibilities, so it doesn't make much a difference if the PSP costs $100 or $300 as long as it ends up paying for itself with the hours that I put into it.
Jonbo298
05-12-2004, 03:28 PM
I have the money too if I wanted to get a PSP but I'm not because its gonna cost too much, IMO. I dont need a video player because my home dvd player is all I use. I dont need an MP3 player in it because I'd rather have a stand alone MP3 player.
lmfao... Yep, "same old crap."
Yes, the same old crap. You could say Viewtiful Joe 2, GT4, and "Metal Solid Gear" as you put it.. but those are all ports for the most part, aren't they?
PSP is LITERALLY a portable PS2, with what, wireless? Aside from wireless, what else is there? Tell me.
tarakan69
05-12-2004, 03:41 PM
I hate to burst your bubble but their is NO OFFICIAL price. Only speculation.
DarkMaster
05-12-2004, 03:44 PM
All these people talking about how they aren't going to get a PSP because of the price, and the price hasn't even been announced yet. Same can also be said for the DS, no price announcement.
So here's what I'm seeing:
"I don't want a PSP because of the price, even though it hasn't been announced yet, but I'm a very smart person and I can see into the future, so I know the price already. So, I'll get a DS, because I know the price won't be as high, or even very high in general pricing. Sure it hasn't been announced yet either, but my psychic abilities allow me to make my decisions now, instead of later once all the information is actually announced and is valid."
The reason they're "craming all that **** in there" is because PSP is NOT suspose to be like DS/GBA/GB etc. It's suppose to be different, allowing for other features besides just games. If you want a handheld for JUST games, go ahead and buy a DS, if you want other stuff included, buy a PSP. Two different sides, two different styles, they are different systems, and comparing them is lame.
you cant blame ppl for comparing and i wont say it's 'lame'
everything in life gets compared.
tarakan69
05-12-2004, 03:46 PM
Yes, the same old crap. You could say Viewtiful Joe 2, GT4, and "Metal Solid Gear" as you put it.. but those are all ports for the most part, aren't they?
PSP is LITERALLY a portable PS2, with what, wireless? Aside from wireless, what else is there? Tell me.
I don't see people complaining about the portable version of Metroid Prime :Echoes.
Plus Metal Gear Acid is a brand NEW game.
Gran Tursimo comes out during the PS2 launch... it will be fresh, great, and hold at least 9+ months or replayability. 1 freaking game.
DarkMaster
05-12-2004, 03:48 PM
Yes, the same old crap. You could say Viewtiful Joe 2, GT4, and "Metal Solid Gear" as you put it.. but those are all ports for the most part, aren't they?
PSP is LITERALLY a portable PS2, with what, wireless? Aside from wireless, what else is there? Tell me.
And DS is LITERALLY a portable N64. Oh it has two screens and some touch screen functions, amazing, this must be part of Nintendo's "Revolution".
you cant blame ppl for comparing and i wont say it's 'lame'
everything in life gets compared.
It is lame, people need to drop this comparison crap and move on. This is how console wars and fanboy crap gets started, just play what you want and what you like.
Rndm_Perfection
05-12-2004, 04:12 PM
Yes, the same old crap. You could say Viewtiful Joe 2, GT4, and "Metal Solid Gear" as you put it.. but those are all ports for the most part, aren't they?
PSP is LITERALLY a portable PS2, with what, wireless? Aside from wireless, what else is there? Tell me.
Damned 'tard. You just repeated what I said and acted as though I were ignorant of it.
PSP has Playstation games, which you called same old crap. At the same time, you felt excited about DS which has Nintendo games. Congratulations, hypocritical swine-err Dyne.
And don't be surprised when you actually read my previous post concerning this topic and realize that I was defending neither handheld, and rather pointing out the obvious facts that both are similiar. Remove your blindfolds so that we can once again enjoy the E3 forum.
Joeiss
05-12-2004, 04:19 PM
This has got to be some of the worst arguements/debates I have seen in a long long time here at GT.
Both handhelds are fairly early, and not completed. Both handhelds are going to kick major ass. Both handhelds will have many ports, along with new amazing games. PSP will cost more than DS because it includes more things, and is to be used as a multimedia outlet. The DS will cost more than the PSP because it is focused on gaming only, and will not be used as a multimedia outlet. Both the DS and PSP will sell many many units because the target audience is both different and large.
So can all of you fanboys shut the hell up and stop arguing. Thanks.
Jonbo298
05-12-2004, 04:26 PM
So can all of you fanboys shut the hell up and stop arguing. Thanks.
No, arguments keep us together:devil:
It is lame, people need to drop this comparison crap and move on. This is how console wars and fanboy crap gets started, just play what you want and what you like.
no, the fanboy crap gets started by people not letting others have thier opinions.
your comparing the 2, whether you think you are or not. Thats how you detrmin which you like or which you want to get. your mind compares it.
I like the PSP but the DS has more to offer me right now. I know developers are going to do some amazing things with the dual-screen configuration. The PSP has a wider screen but that's about it as far as I'm concerned. I don't like the games nearly as much as the ones on the DS, and there's no way I'm going to watch a two hour movie on a PSP unless it comes with a free eye doctor's appointment afterwards. Being able to play music is cool, but I'm generally too lazy to download and burn mp3s.
I'd like to own both but if I have to choose then I'll go with the developer's system.
I like the PSP but the DS has more to offer me right now. I know developers are going to do some amazing things with the dual-screen configuration. The PSP has a wider screen but that's about it as far as I'm concerned. I don't like the games nearly as much as the ones on the DS, and there's no way I'm going to watch a two hour movie on a PSP unless it comes with a free eye doctor's appointment afterwards. Being able to play music is cool, but I'm generally too lazy to download and burn mp3s.
I'd like to own both but if I have to choose then I'll go with the developer's system.
See, and how did he get to thoes opinions? he compared them.
Comparing them is NOT a bad or lame thing. its a life thing. it just happens.
the bad comes out when some people aren't allowed to have thier opinions that they form.
Oh and in my opinion the PSP looks much nicer than the DS. Fortunately I saw on gamespot that the DS will undergo cosmetic adjustments before release. Of course "cosmetic adjustment" rarely equates to "radical redesign" heh."
Jonbo298
05-12-2004, 04:44 PM
Just make the DS look sleeker and more sexy then you'll be able to actually show it in public:p
Oh and in my opinion the PSP looks much nicer than the DS. Fortunately I saw on gamespot that the DS will undergo cosmetic adjustments before release. Of course "cosmetic adjustment" rarely equates to "radical redesign" heh."
yea. the different design goes along with the differnt audience they're targeting.
i expect a few things to spiffy up the DS a bit. but they wont go so far as changing the basic design of it much.
I don't mind if they change the design much; I just hope they find some way to accomodate using the stylus easily, because on most devices it's a one-hand feat holding it while writing, and the DS looks much bigger than a Palm. And for lefties.. that could be an issue. I mean, when I'm writing with my right hand, my left hand can hold it, with my left thumb over the digital pad -- what about the right buttons? I'm going to have to put the stylus somewhere or hold it awkwardly while I'm using those four buttons.
DarkMaster
05-12-2004, 08:20 PM
See, and how did he get to thoes opinions? he compared them.
Comparing them is NOT a bad or lame thing. its a life thing. it just happens.
the bad comes out when some people aren't allowed to have thier opinions that they form.
Ok, you didn't understand what I said earlier. If you'll look at my whole post, instead of the very last sentence, you'll see I was trying to make a different point. I know all about human psychology, human brains compare things, yep they sure do. You seem to think I was talking about comparison in general, I'm talking about comparison of these two items, with improper and invalid "facts" being used in opinions.
"I don't want PSP cause of price, DS however I will get, because price will be lower, even though neither price has been announced" You see how I compared those? And do you also see how I used a biased, and invalid opinion?
I never once said people shouldn't compare things. But in THIS topic, with THESE items, using THOSE opinions, I'm afraid that is LAME.
Ok, you didn't understand what I said earlier. If you'll look at my whole post, instead of the very last sentence, you'll see I was trying to make a different point. I know all about human psychology, human brains compare things, yep they sure do. You seem to think I was talking about comparison in general, I'm talking about comparison of these two items, with improper and invalid "facts" being used in opinions.
"I don't want PSP cause of price, DS however I will get, because price will be lower, even though neither price has been announced" You see how I compared those? And do you also see how I used a biased, and invalid opinion?
I never once said people shouldn't compare things. But in THIS topic, with THESE items, using THOSE opinions, I'm afraid that is LAME.
i know what ya mean. i guess im just not a fan of how your wording it.
GameKinG
05-12-2004, 09:10 PM
DS's design is not final. The console shown at the show is a prototype. They had to whip it up so people could actually play the games.
Hero2
05-12-2004, 09:11 PM
*Feels cold chill*.....sooo ...much ...hate
I dont think Ill get either of the new handhelds. I would rather play my consoles. I never could find a use for a handheld other then vacation. and Ill just use my gameboy and pokemon/tetris for the little times when I start going in withdrawl. :D
DS's design is not final. The console shown at the show is a prototype. They had to whip it up so people could actually play the games.
thats thier damage control. lol. all companies will do it. if its not being recieved well they'll say its a prototype and design will change.
as i said before tho. the basic layout i doubt will change much. they'll add a little more flavor to it to spruce its look up a bit tho. just IMO of course..
Typhoid
05-12-2004, 09:58 PM
I have a plan to see which shall be better...because at this point its all speculation and opinions, so im going to buy both when they come out and perhaps shall compare the two....That should shut the fanboys up.....
I have a plan to see which shall be better...because at this point its all speculation and opinions, so im going to buy both when they come out and perhaps shall compare the two....That should shut the fanboys up.....
yes.... of course.. someone named typhoid and his opinions will magically make all the 'fanboys' think thier opinions are wrong and listen to him. :hmm:
:p hehe
Typhoid
05-12-2004, 10:05 PM
yes.... of course.. someone named typhoid and his opinions will magically make all the 'fanboys' think thier opinions are wrong and listen to him. :hmm:
:p hehe
HAHA....okay...good point, but i meant it would shut them up to strategically list all the things good and bad between the two. But you honestly cant now, because its all speculation (for the most part).....geez, i wasnt implying that they would listen to me...nobody does.. :( :p
GameMaster
05-12-2004, 11:15 PM
I chose the DS.
Joeiss
05-12-2004, 11:23 PM
Thanks for the insightful post, GameMaster.
GameKinG
05-12-2004, 11:40 PM
"thats thier damage control. lol. all companies will do it. if its not being recieved well they'll say its a prototype and design will change."
But it is being recieved very well. IGN saw the DS before the confrence, and one of the first things noted was that it was a prototype. They had not even seen it yet when Nintendo made that clear.
Though it does look better in real life, and not computer generated like many of the pictures.
http://www.gcadvanced.com/images/games/NintendoDSb.jpg
MuGen
05-12-2004, 11:54 PM
Now it's time I give my two sense...
~~start rant~~
Most of these comparisons and debates are usually done between SONY fans and NINTENDO fans. Which is a huge error in their part. As far as I'm concerned SONY is in a whole 'nother league. NINTENDO is great for it's old school true to their nature gaming attitude, and people will love them for it. People who have nothing but gaming on their minds will love the new DS, because it'll probably remind them of their old Gameboy....dunno....
SONY is just amazing at making such versatile hardware. Don't forget SONY makes other hardware such as HDTV's, Plasma TV's, DVD's Players, Computers, Chips, Mother Ships, and all kinds of neat gadgets. I'm not surprised that SONY is the superior company and that the PSP is the superior handheld in terms of entertainment. With the capability to play games that catch your eye (graphic wise), and to play games that are interesting enough (storyline wise), it will probably dominate the handheld market. But what's the best thing about the SONY PSP is that is does other things as well such as give you music and movie functions. The whole purpose of this PSP system is to give people ONE thing in their pocket to entertain them.
Sooner or later NINTENDO freaks will get tired of holding the Gameboy Advanced to play some games, and then switching to their Gameboy Color to play some of their favorite games, then switching to the DS to play some 'Touch-Screen' games! Seriously... if your a gamer and just truely love games then the DS is for you... And like I said before SONY and NINTENDO should NOT be used in the same category... compare them if you will....but the comparisons will always vary because they are such different companies.
To sum it all up...
PSP = Games, movies, and music... whatever I feel like doing in different times of the day, I've got this PSP with me to satisfy my craving.... oooo ADVENT CHILDREN!! pwn4ge!
DS = Games, games, games.... i feel like watching a movie... let me go home on my DVD player.....hmmm what was that song title again? Let me go on my computer and look it up...
thats my outtake on this whole situation......notice I said nothing about price :D
But it is being recieved very well. IGN saw the DS before the confrence, and one of the first things noted was that it was a prototype. They had not even seen it yet when Nintendo made that clear.
Though it does look better in real life, and not computer generated like many of the pictures.
what it is has been recieved well. what it can do and the games it has and the features have all been recieved well.
but thats not what i was refering to. as far as the style or look of it.... as far as i've seen ppl havnt been thrilled with the way it looks. little big and chucky box.
but who knows. maybe ppl actually do like how it looks
GameKinG
05-13-2004, 12:06 AM
they will like how it WILL look even more. :D
thatmariolover
05-13-2004, 12:10 AM
I'm just frustrated with how much fanboy hype there is going on in these threads from people that don't normally let that part of them take over. And of course you're always going to have a few complete fanboys that are unable to even coming close to looking at things from an unbiased perspective (cough tarakan69). I apologize, you'll have to excuse my cold. As I was saying, you'll always have a few complete fanboys, but some of the good posters (really not going to name names) are getting a bit blinded both on the DS and the PSP side.
PSP
Fact: PSP is a portable media machine. It does what it does very well. It is a poly-pusher and I'm sure we'll see some amazing technology and visuals on it.
My Opinion: MGS and GT have really got me excited. I might get it, but at this point I'm thinking a laptop might be something more appropriate.
DS
Fact: Very innovative in respect to interfacing technology in a PGU (Portable Gaming Unit). It's definately got a lot to offer with the touch screen, microphone, dual screen functionality, etc.
My Opinion: I'm really excited about the DS on a product level, but worried about it on a business level. It's compatable with the GBA, so what happens when Nintendo releases the next Gameboy (since they are planning a separate Gameboy portable)? How soon is Nintendo going to release the next Gameboy? Is the release of that going to effect the DS? Are people going to want to pay for another Nintendo handheld? The games look great. Some original stuff, some remakes, but over all classic Nintendo. Hopefully everything works out.
At any rate, let's look at them for what they are. There's no need to bicker over which one is missing what features. We already know all of that. What you need to decide for yourselves is which one best suits you. What do you want to do on a PGU? And once you've answered that there will be no need for any " Screw you all Metal Gear Acid will destroy all competition!! :mad:" comments on the board (http://gametavern.net/forums/showthread.php?p=124911#post124911).
Good Night.
I've never actually bought an SP, I'm still waiting for my old model to crap out. I thought I would get an SP since they're releasing that cool retro style, but since the DS is backward-compatable I might as well save money and just wait for it. Which...was one of your points.....which....I'm confirming.....or something.....
Blackmane
05-13-2004, 03:10 AM
Nintendo had better not make the mistake of releasing the DS, and then expecting their fanbase to want to buy another Game Boy because "the DS is not the successor to GBA"
That won't go over well with many people.
MuGen
05-13-2004, 08:10 AM
nintendo has way too many handhelds. it's good thing business wise to have them, but for some reason in my opinion having all these gameboys would be annoying.
The DS looks like a great gaming machine, and I dont think Nintendo should release a Gameboy successor so much as right after the DS. Wait a couple of years for people to save up money... because they just bought the DS.
I think... the DS should be there premiere handheld for 2004-2005 since it looks so good.
And the PSP is just a media machine that can provide entertainment in places you can't fit a big dvd player...lol
Honestly i think the PSP is going to hurt nintendo and take a decent chuck of thier control over the handheld market away. to me the PSP is looking very very good.
Nintendo im a little worried about overdoing it in the handheld game. They are kinda shooting themselves in the foot. the Reason the original gameboy beat all thoes other handhelds was cuz it had been around so long and had so many games. If nintendo had got tit for tat with every other handheld and kept releasing new updated gameboys to compete with them all im not so sure they woulda won against all the competition.
seems like nintendo might have lost sight of that. i think the rushed out the original GBA, only to fix some issues and bring out the SP. and now suddenly theres already a DS, with yet another gameboy on the harizon? They're making it almost too hard to keep up with em.
Thats not saying it wont do well. im sure it will. but IMO its a warning for the future. people dont want to continuously buy new handhelds. and i think nintendo should hold off for a good long while on a new gameboy after this DS.
TheGame
05-13-2004, 12:37 PM
Well, to be honest, all it would have taken is Nintendo announcing Pokemon for the DS for me to push it out in front of PSP. A Pokemon game that takes advantage of DS's features and power would be great in my opinion. PSP still looks stunning, if I had to chose between them and Money was not a factor I'd take PSP in a heart beat, but the fact is money is an issue.
Well, to be honest, all it would have taken is Nintendo announcing Pokemon for the DS for me to push it out in front of PSP. A Pokemon game that takes advantage of DS's features and power would be great in my opinion. PSP still looks stunning, if I had to chose between them and Money was not a factor I'd take PSP in a heart beat, but the fact is money is an issue.
Well, they haven't done anything Pokemon yet because they're finishing up with Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green, and shipping it with the wireless adapter. I think they'd announce the new one at Space World or at least a couple months after both those games are released.
But I'm liking the prospects for Pokemon DS.. only they'd probably just do another Gameboy one instead. Probably a launch title for the Game Boy Evolution.
DarkMaster
05-13-2004, 02:56 PM
Do a god damn Pokemon RPG on the Cube, enough with the same handheld crap. Bring it to the Cube!!
They tried that.. Pokemon Colloseum.
It was pretty good.
DarkMaster
05-13-2004, 03:10 PM
They tried that.. Pokemon Colloseum.
It was pretty good.
Hardly what I call an RPG.
Jonbo298
05-13-2004, 03:11 PM
Colleseum wasn't a full fledged Pokemon RPG. It was close, but not the same.
Joeiss
05-13-2004, 06:09 PM
If Nintendo released an Online RPG Pokemon, I would by GCN in a heartbeat.
Typhoid
05-13-2004, 06:33 PM
eh...if they did that i would give it a shot...i wouldnt buy it right away, probably mooch a play or two off of one of my friends to see...but that would be neat i guess..
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