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mickydaniels
04-28-2004, 12:53 PM
Almost in the future world we've envisioned all this time, huh?


I saw this in the Times the other day but posted the article instead of a link cause I know that many of you are too lazy to take the two minutes it takes to just register for something free.

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SHANGHAI, April 16 - There was something almost prosaic about the way the sleek white train pulled out of the city terminal: no whoosh, jolt or roar as it progressed gently through a long, lazy curve, passing the station's flowered gardens, farmers' plots and then a jumble of factories.

The effect changed quickly, however, as the train seemed almost magically to gather speed. This fact is evidenced not by any sense of barreling down the tracks, for there is none, but by the display in every car, its red digits blinking nervously past one century mark after another - 100 kilometers per hour, 200, 300 and so on.

A gaggle of international passengers speaking English, Italian, Chinese and Japanese was awestruck. "It's so quiet," said one. "It's so clean," said another. "The engineering is amazing," said one man in a German accent - somewhat immodestly, because the technology for Shanghai's new magnetic levitation train, the world's first in commercial service, comes from his country.

Their digital cameras were flashing furiously now, and passengers began calling friends on their cellphones, eager to share the thrill. With a glance out of the big bay windows came an impression of art to accompany the technological awe. Mondrian and Dali came to mind as the farmers' plots were reduced to streaking geometrical abstractions, and time seemed to bend, with the thick traffic on the parallel highway down below zooming in reverse.

For a brief instant, the car's friendly display read 432 kilometers per hour (268 m.p.h.), the train's peak speed, and just then a passenger cried out: "Slow down, this is way too fast. Whoa, where are the brakes?" Faster-than-a-bullet-train technology is a marvel to be sure, the man's cry seemed to say, but in an eight-minute train ride to the airport there is no time to read, or scarcely even time to think.

And this could be one reason the Shanghai maglev has yet to catch on since the eight-minute service was begun in January. On an average day there are reportedly only 4,000 riders, less than one-sixth of capacity.

Surely there are other causes, from the nearly $10 a one-way ticket cost originally - reduced to $6 this week in an effort to lift ridership - to the five-minute hike from the terminus to the airport, to the train's once abbreviated, somewhat irregular schedule in the early months after it began operation.

Then there is the lack of prominent signs inside the airport, which looks like a futuristic Steven Spielberg set. "I wanted to take the new train, but I couldn't find it," said one befuddled Shanghai resident as he jumped into a taxi for the heavily trafficked 20-mile ride to the city. "I was looking all over for it. How does one ride it?"

Yet in a city with a knack for accumulating superlatives, from China's biggest, wealthiest population to the country's tallest building and the world's highest hotel lobby (54th floor) - and now its fastest commuter train - might the lack of interest also be due to a feeling of exhaustion with breakneck change; or at least a desire to pause to catch one's breath?

"It may take me longer, but the taxi is more convenient," said Jin Ri, a smart-suited businessman who puffed on a cigarette anxiously as he waited in an airport taxi line. In fact, almost everyone in the line was either smoking a cigarette or talking on a mobile phone, or both.

"Sometimes I feel like a two-week vacation is too much," Mr. Jin, a 28 year old corporate manager said, nodding vigorously when asked if life in Shanghai was already hectic enough. "I like a fast rhythm, but it is still a lot more comfortable to sit in a cab that will take me all the way to my door."

One taxi fare after another reprised the thought. "I don't want to change cars again, even if it's faster," said Jing Minzhang. "Once you get to the train station, I'd have to get into a taxi there, and I don't want to do that."

The mere idea of taking a train can conjure notions of relaxation, dreams, rumination or renewal. The great blues musician Muddy Waters captured the feeling with a lyric about being so tired and lonely he "took a freight train to be my friend."

But built for speed far more than comfort, Shanghai's maglev leaves little time for daydreaming. The train, suspended above the track and propelled forward by the repulsive and attractive forces of magnetism, travels much faster than an ordinary train because of the lack of friction. Its seats are thickly cushioned. Their backs have little indentations, where a little table might fold out. But the tables are lacking, as if to say, "Who has the time for refreshments on an eight minute ride?"

A few minutes into the high-velocity excursion, a voice came over the loudspeaker to announce that the next stop will be Long Yang Road Station, an oddly superfluous declaration for a train that makes no other stops. At the city terminus, the light load of passengers filed out of the station, past a forlorn vendor of bottled sodas and Maglev postcards.

If only it could find more passengers like Zhou Hao, however, the maglev service would be assured of a brilliant future. And surely in a business-crazed population of 1.3 billion Chinese, about 14 million of whom live in Shanghai, there must be hope.

On this day, however, the 26-year-old businessman, who flew to Shanghai just to make a bank deposit in person on a Saturday before the close of business, stood all alone on the maglev platform. Rail-thin and dressed in a black suit, he shifted nervously from one foot to the other, as if he could not bear the wait for the train. "I can save about 30 minutes and the cost is about the same as the taxi," he said, explaining his choice of the train.

But isn't life hectic enough without so much rushing? "I'm very young," he answered. "I'm in a hurry to make money."

Happydude
04-28-2004, 01:04 PM
the last 5 paragraphs are repeated :unsure:


anyway, thats a nice train...it would have defenit success if instead of puting it on a 20mile track, they put it on a 200 mile track...like traveling between states or whatever...i'd ride it...

Typhoid
04-28-2004, 07:09 PM
Maglevs have been around for a long time in Asia...but i dont know if theu have been used. Im pretty sure they are used in Japan though...

Seth
04-28-2004, 07:20 PM
It's a shame that we, in North America, don't commute more by train.

My dad was on one of those when he was over in Japan. Not quite as fast(I think the top speed was 275 or something) and he said that you can't feel it speeding up or slowing down. No noise and ****. Wish we had that stuff here.

GameMaster
04-28-2004, 07:25 PM
That's good. It'll be a lot better for our environment also. I should like to ride one and experiecne the sensation for myself.

GT News
04-28-2004, 07:25 PM
That's good. It'll be a lot better for our environment also. I should like to ride one and experiecne the sensation for myself.

Thanks. Next question?What color are your eyes?
Tell me why you should.

Happydude
04-28-2004, 07:38 PM
how about you ride him and experience the sensation?

GT News
04-28-2004, 07:38 PM
how about you ride him and experience the sensation?

Do you mind if I tell other people:
said I ride him and experience the sensation.

Happydude
04-28-2004, 07:38 PM
........YES! I DO MIND!!! OMG!!!! IM RUINED!!!!

DimHalo
04-28-2004, 08:07 PM
I really like the idea of having more train transportation in the United States.

On the subject of camfubot and suggestions made by happydude, I will just say... take that business elsewhere (LOL)

GameMaster
04-28-2004, 08:53 PM
Well, CamfuBot is a nice guy.
CamFuBot's Performance: http://www.gametavern.net/forums/images/4stars.gif

Typhoid
04-28-2004, 08:58 PM
Well, CamfuBot is a nice guy.
CamFuBot's Performance: http://www.gametavern.net/forums/images/4stars.gif
:wtf:

GameMaster
04-28-2004, 09:04 PM
Alright, let's get this thread back on track (pun intended). Just trains, no more comments relating to Happydude's suggestion. The fault is actually in CamFuBot's hands as usual. He always makes people go off topic. Now, back to trains.

Canyarion
04-29-2004, 05:49 AM
Trains are cool, but most of the times I get very sleepy in them. But for me there's no comfy way of sleeping in there... :(
I try to stay awake by playing my GameBoy or something. Listening radio is almost impossible because of the radio noise caused by the electric wires. :(

They talked about building one of those magnetic trains here in Holland, but it's WAY too expensive. And it's not like Holland is a large country where you travel 100s of miles. :p

DimHalo
04-29-2004, 08:22 AM
They talked about building one of those magnetic trains here in Holland, but it's WAY too expensive. And it's not like Holland is a large country where you travel 100s of miles. :p

I have been to holland. I traveled by bus.

Canyarion
04-29-2004, 11:10 AM
You've been here? :eek: Where when why? Did you like it? :p

DimHalo
04-29-2004, 12:52 PM
You've been here? :eek: Where when why? Did you like it? :p


A few years back... like 10 years ago. Went with my grandma and grandpa for a sightseeing trip. Loved it. Good food, good shoes, good fun :p

Seth
04-30-2004, 12:58 AM
cotdamn shoes!

my scourge. It seems like half of my family's income goes towards the purchasing of shoes for the females.

It's funny how they come up with excuses to buy another pair.

Blackmane
04-30-2004, 02:34 PM
We need a magnetic train to go from California to Hawaii. That would be cool.

GameMaster
05-01-2004, 01:58 AM
We need a magnetic train to go from California to Hawaii. That would be cool.

I second that! :)