View Full Version : Expedition to Search for Noah's Ark
GameMaster
04-26-2004, 09:06 PM
WASHINGTON (AP) -- An expedition is being planned for this summer to the upper reaches of Turkey's Mount Ararat where organizers hope to prove an object nestled amid the snow and ice is Noah's Ark.
A joint U.S.-Turkish team of 10 explorers plans to make the arduous trek up Turkey's tallest mountain, at 17,820 feet, from July 15 to August 15, subject to the approval of the Turkish government, said Daniel P. McGivern, president of Shamrock- The Trinity Corporation of Honolulu, Hawaii.
The goal: to enter what they believe to be a mammoth structure some 45 feet high, 75 feet wide and up to 450 feet long that was exposed in part by last summer's heat wave in Europe.
"We are not excavating it. We are not taking any artifacts. We're going to photograph it and, God willing, you're all going to see it," McGivern said.
Explorers have long searched for an ark on the high slopes of Mount Ararat, where the biblical account of the Great Flood places it.
In 1957, Turkish air force pilots spotted a boat-shaped formation in Agri province. The government did not pursue the sighting, however. The entire area, including Mount Ararat, was off limits to foreigners because of Soviet complaints that explorers were U.S. spies.
That ban was lifted in 1982, and since then teams of explorers have visited the area but have been unable to substantiate any claim of an ark.
McGivern and Ahmet Ali Arslan, a Turkish mountain climber who grew up in a town near Mount Ararat, say satellite photos have helped them pinpoint a more exact location. Arslan will be leading the expedition.
The biblical account in the Book of Genesis says that after the great deluge, the ark came to rest on the mountain with Noah's family and a cargo of male and female pairs of every kind of animal.
Geologists say even though there is evidence of a flood in Mesopotamia in Sumerian times, it is not possible for a ship to make landfall at an altitude as high as Mount Ararat.
Interesting. I don't understand how they can prove it's Noah's Ark though. It'd be really cool and shocking though if the explorers found 2 skeletons of several different specices of animals inside. Not it's time for people to express their opinions on the following:
• Noah's Ark in General
• The Search for Noah's Ark
• Your Favorite Animal
Jonbo298
04-26-2004, 09:17 PM
Leave it where it is. But build a huge ass amusement park around it so you can make millions off it:D
Dark Samurai
04-26-2004, 09:42 PM
Is finding Noah's Ark going to make me believe that there was Jesus, and there is a God from which Jesus was concived with?
BlueFire
04-26-2004, 09:42 PM
Could be a very interesting find. I just hope people don't automatically link this to saying Christianity is the one "true" religion
Joeiss
04-26-2004, 09:43 PM
Well, if you believe in this, then there shouldn't be two skeletons of every animal... Because then how the hell would they reproduce to replenish the earth if they died? lol.
And my favourite animals are monkies... I don't have a favourite type, just all of them... But the spider monkey is pretty cool....
Edit: Well, this could prove Judaism as well, because Noah was in the Old Testament, not the New.
Typhoid
04-26-2004, 09:44 PM
My favorite animal is the Squirrel...natures compass...
Is finding Noah's Ark going to make me believe that there was Jesus, and there is a God from which Jesus was concived with?Will it? :)
Meh, if it is found out to be the same measurements as stated in the Bible and stuff, it's evidence that the stories in the Bible aren't just made up legend. Carbon date it and stuff. Interesting.
Typhoid
04-26-2004, 10:50 PM
My brothers girlfriend is religious, and she was arguing with me that Dinosaurs arnt real, that god put the bones there for us to study and learn from.
Then...i stumped her....
But why would god want us to learn and study something that never existed?
....man, she was mad.....
Happydude
04-26-2004, 11:43 PM
lol @ typhoid
anyway...i don't really believe in any of the biblical crap (no offence to anyone) but yeah...if there is a boat thingy there...there has to be a good logical (scientific if you will) reason behind it.
and my favorite animals are...well...i don't like animals that much...as long as they don't bite, i like them.
I seriously doubt there's a real boat there. Ocean level would have had to been way too high. There just isn't that much water.
lol, i love the one about the dinosaur bones. I haven't heard that since the 80's.
thatmariolover
04-27-2004, 01:50 AM
Almost all mythology or fable has a basis in fact. For all we know, Noah's real name was Tar'ak, and he was just saving his family and a few cows and chickens. And he very well may have died doing it. Or not existed at all. Or the Bible could be 100% accurate in its' depiction of the story.
At any rate, I'm going to believe what I see.
My brothers girlfriend is religious, and she was arguing with me that Dinosaurs arnt real, that god put the bones there for us to study and learn from.
Then...i stumped her....
But why would god want us to learn and study something that never existed?
....man, she was mad.....
What religion does she belong to?
Dylflon
04-27-2004, 12:16 PM
I'm pretty sure she's christian but Typhoid will give us confirmation.
She's so weird. She just kinda lives at his house. Nobody really likes her anymore.
Joeiss
04-27-2004, 03:00 PM
If I am not mistaken, I believe dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible.
I'm pretty sure she's christian but Typhoid will give us confirmation.
She's so weird. She just kinda lives at his house. Nobody really likes her anymore.
Well, if she's Christian then she's probably saying things that are not supported by her church. The Catholic Church teaches dinosaurs existed and I would assume Protestant churches do also.
DimHalo
04-27-2004, 05:37 PM
Noah's Ark is cool. I have always liked, and believed the story. While it may not be exactly as we interpret it today I do think that he existed.
Not really sure what to think about the search. I guess it is cool, but I have doubt that they will be able to find it. Earth was a lot different back then.
I like monkies, and cats, and dogs (except the really little ones).
You're right Joeiss. The Bible mentions 'dinosaurs' in the book of Job.
Rndm_Perfection
04-27-2004, 05:59 PM
I like Cows.
The Science Behind the Ark (http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html)
Jason1
04-27-2004, 07:38 PM
They wont find anything. Its just like that silly shroud thing. Its totally fake. Theyve done dating things to it that are very accurate, and It only dates back to like 600AD or something like that.
Crash
04-27-2004, 08:00 PM
here is what the bible says about dinosaurs, this is in JOB
15 ¶ Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
16 Lo now, his strength [is] in his loins, and his force [is] in the navel of his belly.
17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
18 His bones [are as] strong pieces of brass; his bones [are] like bars of iron.
19 He [is] the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his
sword to approach [unto him].
20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
22 The shady trees cover him [with] their shadow; the willows of the brook
compass him about.
Typhoid
04-27-2004, 08:17 PM
I'm pretty sure she's christian but Typhoid will give us confirmation.
She's so weird. She just kinda lives at his house. Nobody really likes her anymore.
I think she's Christian...i dont really want to ask her. But i didnt want to post this in fear that Dylflon would spazz out that i post way too much....And yes, she lives at my house....no nobody likes her...not even my brother....who is apparently going out with...
Dylflon
04-27-2004, 08:19 PM
But i didnt want to post this in fear that Dylflon would spazz out that i post way too much
Shut up. :D
I said only post if you have something relevant to say ratehr than your style of random gibberish talk.
Carry on.
Leave it where it is. But build a huge ass amusement park around it so you can make millions off it:D
LOL! In Turkey? That's not possible. Nobody's smart enough to do that. Even if somebody does do it, nobody would go there, because it's in the east, where we still have terrorism.
My favorite animal is...ummm...the canary (can't think of anything else :)).
GT News
04-28-2004, 10:59 AM
Leave it where it is. But build a huge ass amusement park around it so you can make millions off it:D
LOL! In Turkey? That's not possible. Nobody's smart enough to do that. Even if somebody does do it, nobody would go there, because it's in the east, where we still have terrorism.
My favorite animal is...ummm...the canary (can't think of anything else :)).
I'm glad you find this amusing.Tell me a little about your life in TURKEY.
Why?Are we still talking about TURKEY?
Yes, even that.What makes
animal is
your favorite?Er:-) Is that a fact.
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