RAW is BORE

[Professor S]

If you are not a wrestling fan, please don't bother replying to this thread... I'm looking at you Jason1:D

Anyone see Raw tonight? They really are doing a lousy job of building up to Wrestlemania so far.

1) The beginning promo. Someone really has to try and get Hogan and Hall to speed up their promos, and to put some feeling into them. Hogan had some good emotion, but he just took five years in between sentences. It made me miss the days of his kinetic "prayers and vitamins" promos from the old days. I think Hall was just drunk. He announced his challenge to Austin with such apathy that he sucked all the heat out of what should have been a major announcement. The crowd was just DEAD for most of the segment. I thought Nash was OK though.

2) Angle vs. Jericho. This match had some promise. True, it was a title match with 2 heels so it didn't have any heat, but the match had a good chance of being excellent. They screwed that one up to. The match itself was decent, but then Kane makes the run-in DQ for the finish. Ugh, maybe the nWo IS actually infecting the WWF.

3) Austin vs. Mr. Perfect. I won't even comment. Pointless besides the run-in. They could have at least put him in with someone believable. BTW, the match hasn't even taken place yet, but I'm already calling the run-in by the nWo. Its that obvious.

4) APA meets the gay bar. Ugh. I'm dreading this match at Wrestlemania. If they don't get the tag belts off those two morons I'm going to freak.

On the bright side though, they are doing a good job of pushing the Rock/Hogan match. But thats the one match that they don't really NEED to push.

[nWoCHRISnWo]

That's WWF booking for you.

Oh god how I wish WCW was still around.

[nWoCHRISnWo]

Oh yeah, and about Hall... Do you always like to mock ex-alcoholics? How about people with cancer, or people in wheel-chairs? You should read his interview at WWF.com, or better yet just go to 1wrestling and read on of Jim Hall's comments. You seem to live by 1wrestling, and if one of them sees Hall in a new light now, you probably can, too.

And you do know it's not called "Raw is War" anymore, so your clever title isn't very clever at all. :D

[Professor S]

Well i never really thought my title was all that clever to begin with. Those variations have been done to death.

As for Hall, I don't mock ex-alcoholics, but I do mock wife beating drunks that should be rotting in jail. His ex-wife is a saint for the amount of abuse she took without pressing charges. She even tried to work things out with him on numerous occasions.

But I guess you're ok with violence against women...

[nWoCHRISnWo]

Well if a wrestler abused a woman in the past, I wouldn't be bringing that up every moment I get and saying things like "That interview sucks, it must be all that wife beating he's thinknig about..."

If we had to view everyone on past personal life, then everytime Shawn Michaels screwed up it could be because he's an arrogant asshole, and if Ric Flair wins a match, it's because of him holding down talent several years ago.

[Professor S]

I can't believe that you are actually comparing booking abuse with domestic violence. How much of a NWO mark are you?

Plus, have you seen the shape that Hall is in? He's got a nice gut going there and he looks like he isn't all that healthy. I wouldn't say he's completely sober just because he says he is.

Just look at how much better Regal looks now that he's on the wagon. Hall is looking a little more like Regal prior to his rehab.

[Ric]

It was boring because they are running out of ideas, we all know they follow a set agenda and its going down hill a little. I remember the good old days, Bret Heart, Hulk Hogan, The Ultimate Warrior, The British Bulldog... that was wrestling in its prime, since then my interest in the subject has slipped.

[Professor S]

Well, right now the WWF is making the same mistake that WCW made when their ratings started dropping. Instead of elevating new talent, they are just recycling old talent in hopes that existing viewers will stick around and maybe a few old WCW fans will come back.

The WWF came into prominence not because of this theory, but instead they elevated Stone Cold, Triple H and The Rock and created NEW wrestling fans. As long as you depend on keeping your old fans, you are always going to lose. The same old same old doesn't get you any new fans. But to solve their ratings problem, they have decided to bring back talent OLDER than the talent they developed a few years back: The Godfather (remember Papa Shango?), Mr. Perfect, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, and the legendary Hulk Hogan. This is only going to hurt them for the long haul.

So who is the bright new talent that the WWF has decided to elevate to give life to their sagging ratings?

Billy and Chuck...

Thank God I have my import tapes.

[nWoCHRISnWo]

You can still elevate new talent while bringing old talent back in, I wouldn't say that's the main problem. WWF should really work on just plain elevating, period. Not just new talent. Look at the Invasion angle... WCW was made to look like ****, and the "biggest angle in wrestling" sucked more ass than an X-Pac/Billy Gunn match.

Strangler, what does me being an nWo mark have to do with anything? You bring up Hall's alcohol problems whenever mentioning him, whether or not it fits in or makes sense. Whatever the opposite of a mark is, that's what you are for any guys that the internet people are supposed to hate.

Hall isn't in as bad shape as people are saying, but just because he's not in the best shape doesn't mean he's been drinking... He says he's not drinking, and if it was obvious he still was, then why would WWF have taken him? Better yet, why would they be making fun of his past problem?

[Professor S]

"Hall isn't in as bad shape as people are saying, but just because he's not in the best shape doesn't mean he's been drinking... He says he's not drinking, and if it was obvious he still was, then why would WWF have taken him? Better yet, why would they be making fun of his past problem?"

I believe WCW did a running gimmick using Hall's alcoholism as a joke, so I wouldn't put it beyond writers to make fun of it. I'm not saying he definitely is drinking, but don't just believe him because he says its so. I believe he has lied about this a couple ttimes before.

And as for my mentions of him being an alcoholic, wife beating sack of trash, I do that because that is what he is and everyone should know about it. Just as Sid Vicious should NEVER EVER enter a wrestling ring again, neither should Hall. They have both been given WAY too many second chances for their heinous behavior. What does it tell the younger guys when you keep on giving a degenerate like Hall special treatment, while Road Dogg, Brian Christopher and others get discharged for drug use. Until wrestling organizations start to learn from their mistakes, they will always be doomed to repeat them.