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Vampyr
02-18-2004, 10:05 PM
Survivor

This entire post is dedicated to how I played the game of survivor. It tells of every trick, lie, victory, and scheme that I planned and successfully/unsuccessfully pulled off. Some of you will be shocked. Others horrified. But most of you will probably be angry. Throughout this document, I will have two other people adding comments and telling some parts of the story, because I could not have gotten as far in the game as I did without the help of my two comrades. My partners in crime, as I like to call them: Dylflon and GameMaster.

Can anybody guess what time it is? That’s right. It’s tool time.

The game begun when Neo announced the two leaders of the tribes: Jonbo and GameMaster. At this point in time, I didn’t think I would have much of a chance of getting to play. I wasn’t very close friends with Jonbo or GameMaster, although I had talked to Jonbo a few times on AIM. But, much to my surprise, GameMaster chose me. I later discovered that Dylflon was helping GameMaster choose, and Dylflon was a friend that I already talked to regularly on MSN. I was very excited about getting to play, and I was very confident in the team I had been chosen for. I knew we would do great.

Vampyr and I had been talking regularily since I started writing Battle Royal II. He liked to proof read and give feedback and we had a lot of good conversations. I had also been talking to GameMaster a bit. As soon as the captains were announced, GM came on MSN and said that I would be his first pick unless I wanted to be picked later to ensure first round immunity. I said I’d take my chances and he picked me first. But after that he seemed at a bit of a loss when thinking about who to pick. So I started running names and ideas and pre-emptive strategies by him. Our first scheme was to pick Ominub or Hero2. We feared that Jonbo would be a huge threat so we though we could weaken any possible alliance he could have by picking one of his friends then booting said friend immediately. I thought of Vampyr, Gimpy and Dyne first as they are both good friends of mine and said they could really help us in an alliance. Then GM and I tossed names back and forth until our team had been fully picked.

Before the first challenge even started, the strategizing had begun. Actually, the strategizing began during the choosing of the teams. The first “tactic” that was played was when Hero2 was chosen for the STARS tribe. GameMaster and Dylflon decided to pick Hero2 so that Jonbo would not have all of his friends from real life on his tribe. That would not be good, because they could form a strong alliance. So, he was chosen for STARS to break up the alliance. Soon after the teams were picked, Dylflon contacted me and told me about why Hero2 was chosen. He also told me that he wanted to form a Core Alliance with me, of which there would be 5 members. The members were Me, Dylflon, GameMaster, Gimpy-Wanabe, and Dyne. Our objective was to successfully win every challenge, but, if we lost, we planned to vote Hero2 off first so that an alliance could not be formed between Jonbo and Hero2 if Hero2 made it to the merger.

At this point in time, I contacted every member of the Core 5 Alliance, and became friendly with them. I knew just from talking to them that I was part of the perfect alliance. We were a group of loyal, dedicated members that would not let the group down.

I am ashamed to admit that I had early notions of ditching my comrades at the bitter end to try and win. But after the month of playing I had grown such a strong bond with them that I even volunteered to take the hit so they could both move on to the last challenge.

Soon enough, the first challenge came. It was an interesting challenge, which involved “the passing of the vile.” It was a race between STARS and Umbrella Corp. I was assigned to take the vile from Dylflon and pass it to someone else. In order to do this faster, I copied GameMaster’s first post into my reply window, and changed the name of the person I was passing it to. But I forgot to change the person I was taking it from. I was very scared that I had just cost us the challenge. But, fortunately, I was only required to GIVE it to the right person. Challenge #1 was an easy success for STARS. The Umbrella’s were required to vote out someone, and they voted off Ominub, because he didn’t show up for the challenge. (He was playing FFXI, give the guy a break!) :D

The voting off of Ominub was an interesting event, because I had talked to Ominub on AIM before, and he was a pretty good friend. I noticed he was online, and I went to him. He had been voted off, so it was an easy thing to play off of his anger and frustration. At this point in time, Ominub had been voted off, BUT his access to Umbrella hadn’t been taken away yet. I was able to talk him into giving me temporary access to his account. Once I was in, I took many screenshots of the inside of the Umbrella’s private forums. I immediately posted the screen shots in the STARS forum. This was a great morale booster for the team, knowing that we had this kind of power.

After I got the screenshots, I contacted GameMaster, our fearless leader. Since survivor started, I had been talking to GM quite a lot on MSN. He had become a close friend of mine (and still is) and I knew I could trust him. Together, we created a beautiful yet evil plan. It was flawless in so many ways.

First, I logged out of my Vampyr account. Then, I clicked the register button to make a new account. I named the new guy “UmbrellaTraitor”. During the time I was making this new account, GameMaster was also making an account. He called his new account “Allerbmu” (which is umbrella spelt backwards, if no one noticed.) After I clicked the register button and created “UmbrellaTraitor”, GM clicked the register button and created “Allerbmu”. The reason for the creation of “Allerbmu” was so that “UmbrellaTraitor” would not appear as the newest registered user. GameMaster and I felt it best to keep UmbrellaTraitor a secret for as long as possible.

After the creation of UmbrellaTraitor, GameMaster and I designed the perfect plan to use him in. The plan was this: We would send private messages to an influential member of the Umbrella tribe. We would include with this private message one of the screenshots I took using Ominub’s account. In this private message we would also send information of bogus alliances and pretend like we knew things that we didn’t actually know. One of the things we wrote in it was that Hero2 and Jonbo, along with other members both from STARS and Umbrella, had formed an alliance with the sole purpose of making it to the merger, and then teaming up to work their way further into the game. We also wrote in the private message that we had other information, but in order to get the info, he would have to comply with our demands. We also said that if he didn’t comply with our demands, we would give the screenshots and information to STARS (little did he know that STARS already had the screenshots.) What were our demands? We demanded that the person we sent the PM to form an alliance with the sole purpose of getting Jonbo voted off. The reason we wanted Jonbo voted off was because without a leader, Umbrella would have even less power. Also, Jonbo was one of the more loyal of the team members. With him gone, they would do even worse at challenges.

By this time you are probably wondering who we sent the PM to. It was a difficult decision, but GM and I looked at it from all angles, and decided that the perfect person to send it to was Perfect Stu. We decided to send it to him because we didn’t think he was very good friends with Jonbo, and we thought he would go along with our plan to vote him off. Another reason we did this was because from past posts, GameMaster had noticed that Stu had a slightly inflated ego, (not neccasarily a bad thing, but it was a weakness) GameMaster informed me of this, and I agreed that it would be wise to play off of his ego. So, in the PM we also made a point to say that with Jonbo gone, Stu would be the new leader of the tribe, and he would be in control of a powerful alliance. With this offer, we didnt think stu would be able to resist going along with us.

During this whole charade, we said things that made “UmbrellaTraitor” to look like a member of the Umbrella’s that had turned against them. So, in the PM, we told Stu that if he voted of Jonbo, we would reveal our true identity. In the end, Stu agreed to go along with everything we had said, as long as we would reveal our identity at the end. We agreed to this.

At the next challenge, the Umbrella’s won. It was disappointing, but I knew the game plan. The Core Alliance on the STARS combined together to vote off Hero2. Afterwards, I sent a new PM to Stu saying that this changes nothing, and that the plan was still on.

So, at the next challenge, the STARS defeated the Umbrella’s. I was very nervous at this point. I was very excited to see if our plan worked. And low and behold, it did. Jonbo was removed from the tribe. GameMaster and I had created the perfect plan to chop off the head of the Umbrella’s, and it worked.

After this, we had to work out a new plan.

I had no idea that Vampyr could become so treacherous. I was proud. So we had a conversation about it and I said jokingly that we should send a PM to every Umbrella member saying “You’re next”. We soon realized that this wasn’t as bad idea. It would be funny for us and it had the chance of confusing and or scaring the members of Umbrella.
Indeed it was a good plan, and I got interesting reply's from it.

During one of the times I was sending a PM to Stu, Bond contacted me on AIM. We had talked quite often before Survivor started, and Bond was a little freaked out about Umbrella Traitor. He had no idea that I was the actual Traitor. I considered telling him, but I thought better of it. The fewer people who knew, the better. It was very funny talking to him, though. He was rather paranoid. He thought that UmbrellaTraitor somehow had gained access to the Umbrella’s private forums. I put on a good show and thoroughly convinced Bond that I wasn’t the UmbrellaTraitor.

So, I feel that the creation and perfect execution of UmbrellaTraitor was the epidemy of my strategizing. It took so much thought and careful planning, and I executed it perfectly. But, this was not the end of me yet, because I had many more tricks up my sleeve.

As time passed, not many things changed. STARS continued to win, and Umbrella continued to lose. But finally, something happened. There was a survivor “mix up”. Our tribe lost Dyne and Rndm, and gained Canyarion and Yoda. This wasn’t a bad deal. We lost two of our most dedicated members, and got two of Umbrella’s most dedicated. But, unbeknownst to everyone else, this was a bad deal for me, GameMaster, Dylflon and Gimpy Wanabe, because we had lost Dyne, a valuable member of our alliance. So, I contacted Rndm and asked him to help Dyne and himself make it to the merger. I left out the part about Dyne being part of our alliance, of course.

I was worried about Dyne and Rndm (who was yet to show how conniving he was) and threw around the idea of throwing the next two matches. I figured we could just vote off the new guys. We considered it at first but then decided it was probably not a good idea. Plus we soon found that Yoda and Canyarion were very fun to work with.

After the next Challenge, STARS won, as usual. But, instead of Rndm helping Dyne, he sold him out and actually conspired to have Dyne voted off. Sadly, Dyne was removed from the game, but vengeance would be had.

We were quite furious.
Indeed we were.

As the game progressed further, a merger eventually occurred. At this point, I was able to once again use Umbrella Traitor, in an indirect way. Because most people who were on the umbrella tribe didn’t like Stu much anymore because he had made them vote out Jonbo. It was actually my fault that Stu did this, but he was the one who got the blame. So it was an easy task of contacting past Umbrella members and asking them to vote for Stu. They were eager to help.

During this time, GameMaster and I formed a fake alliance with Rndm. And I must credit GameMaster, because his manipulative acting abilities were brilliant. I will let him tell this part of the story.

As far as alliances go, Random got off to a late start. At the merger, Random begin communicating with Vampyr and myself in hopes that he could form an alliance with us. He wanted to persuade us to cast Dylflon out. Refusing his offer would’ve only turned Random against us, and people we’re already suspecting our little circle. So we pretended to be in an alliance with Random. Once some others had been voted off, Random’s time was slowly ending, or so we thought. Now the time had come to vote Gimpy off, except that Vampyr, Dyflon, and myself had already arranged to vote for Random. Like Vampyr, my conscience was beginning to get the better of me. We had led Random to believe that our alliance with him was authentic and we even shared friendly, casual conversation via MSN. How could I avoid betraying Random and not risk losing Vampyr or Dyflon? Gimpy and Random were neck-in-neck as far as votes were concerned. Random had one more vote now, I could tie it up by voting for Gimpy and hopefully my vote would not prevent Random from being removed. But alas! Random squeezed by with one less vote, and now he was still in the game, fully aware of our betrayal and deceit. If there were any big mess-ups, it was this one. Now Random had informed the others of our trick and cautioned them to avoid doing any “business” with us. Some swift persuasion by my two comrades, got Random voted off the next round. Man, was I lucky. I could’ve messed everything up for Vampyr and Dylflon.
No worries man, we fixed it, and you won! But, this is why a fake alliance was required. If GM and I didnt go along with Rnmd's request of a "fake" alliance, than he would know that Dylflon and GM and I were in it together. He could EASILY convince them to vote against us, because they already suspected that we had an alliance.

After playing rndm, I felt bad for taking his trust and breaking it. But hey, a guys gotta do what a guys got to do, right? Lol. Even though the plan did not work out to where rndm got voted off, he did receive 3 votes that would work against him if there ever was a tie. But, in the end, Gimpy Wanabe was voted off instead of rndm. This happened because Rndm had managed to form an Alliance: Canyarion, Yoda, Happydude, and himself. This was yet another great loss to the alliance. By this point I was scared. It was just the three people in the alliance left. But then, something amazing happened. AGRS won the next challenge.
Here is an update of all the people left:
Dylflon
Vampyr
GameMaster
Yoda
Canyarion
Happydude
Rndm_Perfection
Germanator

Ok, so you might think this would be bad for me, but it wasn’t! Want to know why? Ok. Germanator. He was the key to my next grand and glorious plan. Germy was not a “real” member of our alliance, because he was more of a loner. He just voted for whoever he wanted to. But, the thing was, he wanted to vote for rndm. So, I saw the AGRS victory as a beautiful opportunity. If I could contact enough AGRS members and persuade them to vote off Canyarion, Happydude, or Yoda, then when the next tribal counsel came around, me, Dylflon, GameMaster, and germy could vote off Rndm. That would leave it three on three. But, if AGRS voted off one of my alliance, or Rndm, then things would go bad, because I couldn’t rely on Germanator to vote on anyone except Rndm. So, I contacted Canyarion. He and I were friendly, so we made a deal. He was scared because he was confident that AGRS was going to vote him off. I made a deal with him, I said I would contact my friends in AGRS and ask them to vote for Happydude, if he would do the same thing. He agreed. I did not tell him that Germy would actually help me when the time came, because he was under the impression that Germanator was completely neutral. So, canyarion and I made a plan. We agreed that if Happydude was voted off, we would conspire to take turns voting people off of our own alliance. I agreed. But, I was lieing. There was no way in hell I was going to do that. But, I did the first part of the deal. I contacted all my friends and asked them to vote for happydude. I stayed up until 4 AM, waiting for the poll to close. I monitored every person who came online, and contacted them to ask them to vote off happydude.

In the end, it was a tie between Canyarion and Happydude. This wasn’t bad, because either way, Rndm’s alliance lost one member, and since it wasn’t Rndm that was lost, I could still rely on Germanator to vote him off.

In the end, Happydude and Canyarion tied. I was extremely relieved. It didnt matter which one was removed, Rndm's alliance would take a hit, putting me a little further ahead. It was actually Happy who took the fall in the end, and I celebrated with canyarion and my fellow alliance people. (Nothing against you HappyDude, you're a cool guy, but but someone on Rndm's side had to go, and you were the only one I could persuade Canyarion to vote for. :( )

Current Contestants:
Dylflon
Vampyr
GameMaster
Yoda
Canyarion
Rndm_Perfection
Germanator

With this new lineup of members, I was a happy happy man. Dylflon, GM, and I had forged a powerful alliance, so I could rely on them to vote for Rndm. When I logged on, GM immediatly contacted me and said that Rndm had sent a PM to Germy with an attempt to pull him over to the "dark side". I quickly got on AIM, and was thankful to see Germy online. I quickly fed him a completely false story about how Rndm sent me a PM trying to sway me over to his side by saying that Canyarion, Germy, and Yoda were in an alliance against me. This was completly untrue. Rndm hadnt sent me a single PM. But, it was a such a ludicrous yet believable lie that Germy believed it and thought Rndm was spreading lies all around. He quickly cast a vote for Rndm. My alliance had won. Rndm had been taken down. (nothing against you Rndm, but you had to go.) Now we needed to systematically remove the other members. Yoda and Canyarion were removed next, and we forged a Final Four of all STARS members...the old tribe would go down in a blaze of glory.

The final Four:
Dylflon
Vampyr
GameMaster
Germanator

Germanator won immunity. That was not good. Not good at all. I waited an entire day for Germy to cast his vote. He finally voted for me, and I quickly voted for him, to tie it up. I PM'd GM and Dylflon, and requested that they not vote at all, keeping it a tie. I was under the assumption that since it was a tie, all four names would be put in a hat, and randomly chosen from. Didnt happen that way. It was up to AGRS to vote us off...Dylflon valiantly made a post, asking AGRS to take him. And that's how it happened. We lost dylflon. Twas a very sad sad day, but GM and I still had a chance to win, and the legacy of the Trio would live on.

In the final immunity, I won. I was so relieved. It was an extremely happy moment. I quickly PM'd Neo, stating that I wanted GM to come with me.

At this point, it was up to the Jury to choose between me and GM. We had the opportunity to "beg" for them to vote for us. But we both agreed just to let the votes fall how they would.

In the end, GameMaster won. Congratulations, good buddy. :D (although Im a little disappointed, I was genuinly happy that me, Dylan, and GM forged an alliance at the very start of the game, and it worked out. One of us won, just like we planned.)

After this game is over, I think I lost a few great friends. This makes me sad, but I think I also made a few great friends. In the end I think it was worth it. Survivor was an overall great experiance for me. I was able to exercise my brain to pull off some brilliant strategizies, and I was able to just genuinly have fun staying up all night having casual conversation with my commrades and formulating our next crazy idea. :) I enjoyed it very much so.

Vampyr's Shout Outs:
Dylflon and GameMaster: I couldn't have done it without you two. You were my commrades in arms, my partners in crime! I wont soon forget the countless nights we spent conversing, joking, and strategizing.

Dyne: He is one of the "great friends" I got from playing this game. We ended up on the same tribe, and in the same core alliance. We now talk regularly on MSN, and it was a pleasure playing the game with you. Im quite sorry you got "mixed up" and voted off, but we claimed revenge, in your name.

Gimpy Wanabe: One of the core 5 alliance members. Also another "great friend" I got from the game. I still talk to him often on MSN. (if he would lay down his guitar and get online more often. :p)

Germanator: I feared you more than anyone else in the game. You won every challenge I DIDNT want you to win. You were a strong and dedicated competitor, teamate, and friend. Thumbs up man, you played the game extremely well. :)

Ominub: Thanks for those screens dude, they helped a bunch!

Canyarion: One of the better players of the game. Both smart and honorable. We had a "half" alliance in this game. He sold me out once for Rndm, then I sold him out once for my alliance. So we're even. :) Good job.

Hero2: Sorry we voted you off first. :( we feared you're potential if you made it to the merger and teamed up with you're friends. I think I regret voting you off the most, actually. You were a dedicated team member. You did help us big time that one time you got online at work and saved us in a challenge. You were a great player, and I would be honored to play the game with you again.

Rndm_Perfection: What can I say about you? By far the most interesting survivor to play the game. You used a different method of "strategizing" than anyone else in the game. You also made it much further than you were supposed to, which means you're "different" methods were quite good. I probably stabbed you in the back worse than anyone else in the game, and so did GM. I think we're both sorry about it, but it was only a game. Nothing personal. I'm thinking about getting FFXI if a few months. If I ever catch up with your character, we should group together sometime. I promise I wont stab you in the back in the game. :)


Yep. Was a good game to play. I had fun playing with all of you. Some of you were great allies and others were great competitors. Our alliance’s planning went very well and I would like to thank GM and Vamp as well as Dyne, Gimpy and the others who I had the opportunity to work with in the Survivor events. I had a great time. But man, that was some crazy scheming we had. From staged MSN conversations with competitors to forging alliances and rivalries. Good show group. And good show to all of the other Survivors!
I think I speak for Dylan and Myself when I say "Who's the tools now?!"

Happydude
02-18-2004, 10:11 PM
holy sh*t that's a long ass read!


*sigh* fine...i'll read it..and then if i'm still awake i'll read rndm's too...


EDIT: sorry...but i can't read this...im bored after the first paragraph allready :p

The Germanator
02-18-2004, 10:29 PM
Hmm, good read...I suppose the only thing I would've changed in my whole game was voting Rndm off. I did it for other reasons, not soley beacause Vampyr lied about what Rndm was saying. Possibly then I could've had a much easier route to the final 2 rather than having to win the last two challenges, but who is to say? Or I would've changed the way I played the final immunity challenge, heh, but that didn't quite work out.

I was just thinking, if I wrote this journal, it wouldn't be all that exciting. This would be the extent of it.

Beginning: Yep, I'm playing an internet forum game....

3 weeks later: Ya know, my tribe wins a lot, and even when we don't, no one votes me off.

Another week later: Hmm, only 7 people left, maybe I should actually start thinking about this game.

Another week later: Well, got pretty far, but I lost the last challenge, oh well. At least GM won. (nothing against you Vampyr, just sided with GM a bit more)

Edit: And don't take my attitude towards the game as being apathetic...I enjoyed the game and was very involved in every single challenge. I just never considered scheming all that much, not my style.

Jonbo298
02-18-2004, 11:26 PM
I just can't help but laugh because everyone has this automatic idea that I was going to form an alliance with hero2/ominub/jewels. The thought never crossed my mind, but its funny how everyone seemed to think I was going to. But you know what, who ****ing cares. The game is done. I'm not gonna argue about it. I saw the **** that happened, oh well. Stu, how could you fall for the idea that you would become leader? As far as I know, when I got voted out, it seemed like there wasnt another leader. But oh well. I just laugh because everyone thought I was going to be a threat just because I chose a few people from in town. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
please excuse me as I continue laughing
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

*edit*
Now I can laugh even more because someone gave me neg. rep and said " he who laughs is he who'll cry :mad:"
I'm still laughing pretty damn good here. hahahahahahaha

BreakABone
02-18-2004, 11:29 PM
I would just like to pose a question.

Why should we care?

I mean GameMaster won.. whoopity doo.. :(

Canyarion
02-19-2004, 06:15 AM
All I do in these journals is ctrl+f Canyarion, so I'll see what they have to say about me.

Vampyr, realise that my trust in you didn't last very long. You seemed believable, but Rndm told me about you and since then I've been trying to make you lose. :D It worked. ;)

Edit: about the Umbrella Traitor, I always thought it was a STARS Traitor. :p I never understood that you wanted me to believe that my team members were gonna vote me off. :rock:
I just replied with "You're so cute! :love:" or something like that. :)

Rndm_Perfection
02-19-2004, 04:28 PM
It's very interesting to see your side, Vampyr. I didn't know about an Umbrella traitor though. I AM quite surprised that they let an oustider influence them =¬Ţ. And to let you know, PMing each of them that they were next was not a good idea. It would bring up suspicion, discussion, and ultimately break the legitimacy of the threats.

But I dunno, they seemed to believe Umbrella Traitor



Something interesting though:
I was worried about Dyne and Rndm (who was yet to show how conniving he was) and threw around the idea of throwing the next two matches. I figured we could just vote off the new guys. We considered it at first but then decided it was probably not a good idea. Plus we soon found that Yoda and Canyarion were very fun to work with.

After the next Challenge, STARS won, as usual. But, instead of Rndm helping Dyne, he sold him out and actually conspired to have Dyne voted off. Sadly, Dyne was removed from the game, but vengeance would be had.

We were quite furious.
Indeed we were.
OK, so Dylflon once again shows that he knows very little about the game.

I went into a tribe in a 2v3 situation, and I didn't trust Dyne. As we all know from having read this post, my assumptions were correct. Vampyr should know personally that my intuition is often times accurate. I mean hey, I guessed from the start that GM was in their alliance. I felt you were too, Vampyr, but why would I tell you?

Anywho... I knew Dyne would want to vote me off, but I had no proof. At the time, my concern was to be loyal to those I pledged loyalty to (Only GM at that point in the game) and survive to do the best for him (GM).

My loyalty was not to STARS, it was to GM. So, what do I do? I play my part of the "game" and do the strategizing/trickery. I knew the odds of convincing Umbrella to betray themselves were a lot lower than just having them vote off Dyne instead of me.

I saw that Stu was the leader figure, so I talked to him. I didn't lie to him about anything, I just said that Dyne likely had the largest alliance with people from STARS, and that I was only allied with GM (Yes, I did tell Stu that). I let him know that if he wanted to win... he'd need more people than just Umbrella members to help him out.

What Stu and I planned, was a way to get to the merger... I didn't pledge loyalty past the merger (though I did try to help him with the immunity I got).

We left Happydude and Ginkasa out of the dark for awhile... I just wanted Stu to tell Happy and Gink that they were voting for Dyne "because he was more of a threat". I felt it was a reasonable/believable excuse. Meanwhile, I had to keep STARS from interfering with the plans.

I talked to Happydude eventually, and layed down the plan with him and Stu. I let Happy know that Stu wanted to vote him out before there was a switch up of members (which was true), and I informed him that voting out Dyne would get his favor with Stu (which it did a little bit... it brought Happy to the merger instead of Ginkasa). So, the reason why Ginkasa got voted out instead of Happy... was because Stu was the current leader, and Stu wanted to vote out Happy. Ginkasa was just a third wheel that I couldn't fit into the plan, even though I wanted to.

So, I'm talking to Happy, and he relays a chat he had with Dylflon. Dylflon says something to the effect of "You're voting our Rndm, right?" there was a pause "I mean Stu, right? And then Rndm." I was telling STARS that I was trying to convince Happy to vote for Stu. In the poll, I did vote for Stu, by the way. Dyne and I both voted for Stu, but a 2v3 doesn't work.

Anywho, the conversation went on about how Dylflon didn't like how I was playing the game (Heh, how was I playing the game at the time? I didn't tell anybody about my plans to vote off Dyne to anybody but Happy and Stu. Later I revealed it to Gimpy because Gimpy was Happy's friend, and I didn't want third party complications there... but that was after Dylflon contacted Happy, I believe. I may be wrong, maybe Gimpy told Dylflon).


Well, the point is, why were you so furious, STARS? What I did was I said I'd help, when I was planning to save myself by voting out Dyne. The "three" did the same, but to a much greater extent. I wasn't allied with Dyne, so I didn't feel I was betraying him by getting him voted out. And I didn't feel I was damaging GM, because I didn't think GM was allied with anyone yet.

Meanwhile, people were conspiring to get me voted out. If it was so wrong for me to get Dyne out, how was it just fine to vote me out... and have almost all of STARS plan it? You're just angry because he was in YOUR alliance and I wasn't. You don't honestly think I was conniving.



Aahm, one more point:
...During this time, GameMaster and I formed a fake alliance with Rndm. And I must credit GameMaster, because his manipulative acting abilities were brilliant. I will let him tell this part of the story.
Your timing is off. I allied with GM long before I reached out to Vampyr. I had a plan to get GM to the final two since before I was sent to Umbrella. What you're talking about is after Stu got voted out, after the merger, when I knew my head was on the chopping block.


This is how the alliances were written up at the time:
1) GM, Vampyr, Dylflon, Canyarion, Gimpy
2) Happy, Rndm
Side People: Yoda, Germanator

You were five to four. You also had the potential to get Germanator, which you did. I didn't want Germanator to have to vote against STARS people. I didn't know Germanator, and I assumed he was loyal to STARS, so I didn't try it.

Ok, because you were five to a potential four, you had no need to form a fake alliance with me. GM was already faking ignorant, so I thought there were no alliances. I was suspicious of Vampyr, but I tried for him anyway, because Stu was voted out.

After I was betrayed, I learned of the full alliance because Vampyr couldn't hold onto his plans anymore (meanwhile, I was still keeping in the dark the fact that I was involved in Dyne's expulsion). I used the knowledge, and common sense (in what order people were invited to the alliance) to get the "tools" of the tribe to join my side. Everyone except for the main three (Dylflon, GM, and Vampyr) were contacted by me and told of the situation. Common sense took over, and they understood they had no chance against the main three, and agreed with me to break their alliance and then start the game over with new strategies.

Fast forward... It's Canyarion, Yoda, and I against the main three and Germanator as a sway vote. I realize Happydude was already voted out... but it was 4v4 that way already, and I had three votes on me. So losing Happy made the game no different than before. The problem was still the same, I needed to show Germanator that he had no chance against the main three.

I talk to Germanator for a couple of challenges about my offer to start the game over, but he's indecisive. When I figure there's no other way, I make a promise (one that I intended to hold to the end, like the others I made before to GM and Vampyr when we formed an alliance): I promised that I'd try ally Germanator to the end after the other alliance was broken. Apparently, it wasn't good enough of an offer. My simple promises couldn't match Vampyr's lies =¬Ţ.

I realize that Germanator's not coming to my side... so I think of previous chats I had with GM and Vampyr. Vampyr informed me that it was only "50/50" that the "three" would be the final three. And that wasn't under the assumption that Germanator would get immunity, I imagine. So, I used that truth to inform GameMaster that there was a good chance that he wouldn't survive the game if he was in the final three with Vampyr and Dylflon.

I still think I'm right about that assumption. As Vampyr said in that post, he was more friends with Dylflon than GM. Dylflon even tried selling GM out in AGRS by telling everyone to vote for Vampyr... Eeh, oh well.

Anywho, it was a twisted game. Just realize, considering I wasn't in a "super party" BEFORE the game started, I wasn't meant to win. I did get damn far though.


P.S. While browsing AGRS, I saw two points of interest.
1) Dylflon only had one vote less than Happy and Canyarion in the AGRS voteout
2) Dyne voted for my Resident Evil movie and said: "It was the only one remotely funny".

Dylflon
02-19-2004, 06:11 PM
Heh. Well, we felt you were a big threat. At first when Dyne was voted out we had suspicions that you had something to do with it. It wasn't so much that I didn't like how you were playing the game. You did a very good job of surviving. But we were worried that you'd become a big problem and target us soon. With vigilence and a little luck we got you out. But it came right down to the wire.

Neo
02-19-2004, 06:38 PM
Interesting read. I'll be giving you some rep soon.

Vampyr
02-19-2004, 08:32 PM
Heh. Well, we felt you were a big threat. At first when Dyne was voted out we had suspicions that you had something to do with it. It wasn't so much that I didn't like how you were playing the game. You did a very good job of surviving. But we were worried that you'd become a big problem and target us soon. With vigilence and a little luck we got you out. But it came right down to the wire.

Dylflon speaks the truth. Rndm had the best survival rate of anyone. He survived like 3 tribal counsuls longer than it was "planned" for him to.

Anywho, I enjoyed reading you're reply, Rndm. I got to see how things were going while I was planning my own things.


You're just angry because he was in YOUR alliance and I wasn't. You don't honestly think I was conniving.

Exactly. :D

Common sense took over, and they understood they had no chance against the main three, and agreed with me to break their alliance and then start the game over with new strategies.

My simple promises couldn't match Vampyr's lies =¬Ţ.

That actually flattered me. lol.


I still think I'm right about that assumption. As Vampyr said in that post, he was more friends with Dylflon than GM. Dylflon even tried selling GM out in AGRS by telling everyone to vote for Vampyr... Eeh, oh well.

Well, Dylflon and GM are equally best friends of mine. What I said in my post was that GM wasnt that good of a friend when survivor "started".

And dylflon wasnt selling GM out. According to GM and Dylflon, they got together and both of them decided they wanted me to win because I "played the game the best". :p While the nice comment flattered me, I could not have done anything I did without them. GM and Dylan were equally worthy of the title, if not more so. Just keep in mind no one was selling anyone out.

Anywho, it was a twisted game. Just realize, considering I wasn't in a "super party" BEFORE the game started, I wasn't meant to win. I did get damn far though.

Yes, you did get damn far. It was a pleasure to play the game with you, you gave me the most competition than anyone. My brain was working overtime to counter your strategies. We'll have to do it again sometime. :)

Interesting read. I'll be giving you some rep soon.

Cool. :D

I just replied with "You're so cute! " or something like that.

yeah, that was really funny. :D

Jason1
02-19-2004, 08:55 PM
Wow looks like some of you took survivor way too seirously. I got second place last time, and I never gave it another thought.

Dylflon
02-19-2004, 08:57 PM
Yeah but if you don't get carried away, it isn't nearly as enjoyable.

Vampyr
02-19-2004, 08:58 PM
Yeah but if you don't get carried away, it isn't nearly as enjoyable.

Exactly. :D

GameMaster
02-20-2004, 12:14 AM
Our story should be featured on an episode of Dr. Phil. http://www.wholelife.com/images/contacts/mcgraw_p.jpg

Jonbo298
02-20-2004, 12:46 AM
:rofl: So true. Except he will call us all fat and put us on a diet:errr:

Canyarion
02-20-2004, 03:37 AM
:lol: If he puts me on a diet... I'll be skin on bones! :p

Anyway, I enjoyed Survivor. :D