Aww fizznuck

[Ace195]

Damnit all to hell, Just when I get to a point in my life where I'm content with what I'm doing I have to leave.. Friggin army I have to cycle into afghanistan or Iraq for 18 frigging months.. A whole year and a half. And the bad part is I have to Fin pay for my own food while there, well actually they take it out of my pay. WTF THIS KIND OF **** PISSES ME OFF..

Where does the US government get off charging for the food they feed the soldiers they send to WAR ? What in the sam hell are they thinking.. Well now I'm done ranting and raving and feeling bad for myself. Well folkies in three months we'll know where and when I'm going because I'll be there :(

[Rndm_Perfection]

d00d!! Loose lips sink ships.

But still, I feel for you man... Good luck out there. Seriously.

[Happydude]

gl, hf, dd.


(good luck, have fun, don't die) :p

[GameMaster]

I salute you for helping defend my freedom :)

[Rndm_Perfection]

gl, hf, dd.


(good luck, have fun, don't die) :p

SW:BW 4EVAH

[Dark Samurai]

yup i lost a friend to the ARMY virus too, actually two or three friend i forget but i havent heard from them since

[Jason1]

And there's only one person to blame for your troubles...I think you know who Im talking about ;)

[Dylflon]

That's what happens when you join the Army.

Are you actually defending your own country's freedom? I don't imagine there'll be another attack on america like the 9/11 attack in a good long while.

And what makes me sad is that 8000 Iraqi civilians have been killed since America went into Iraq.

I'm sorry to hear you have to go.

Oh...and don't fire on civilians. Keep cool.

[Ace195]

Oh...and don't fire on civilians. Keep cool.

If they have a gun, they are getting one in the head and two in the chest.
*side note* (( I'm in a support platoon so I'm not worried about shooting anyone ))
And there's only one person to blame for your troubles...I think you know who Im talking about.

Well I partially blame my dad. Because he did 20 years in the military and he talked me into it.


yup i lost a friend to the ARMY virus too

So thats why my girlfriend got sick. I knew it damnit

I salute you for helping defend my freedom

Always glad to help you out gamemaster..

[GameMaster]

It would help if you quote the sentences that aren't yours, that was very unclear the first time I read through it.

[GiMpY-wAnNaBe]

whoa...that sucks so much a** its not funny. Geez, 18 months, sweet jesus.....for some reason i picture the deDust2 map in my head with somebody yelling "GO GO GO", and some loser going "For hes a jolly good fellow!"....stupid CS

[MasterMind]

And there's only one person to blame for your troubles...I think you know who Im talking about

You guys aren't talking about Bush are you :) ??

[Rndm_Perfection]

You guys aren't talking about Bush are you :) ??

Not at all.

[Ironfoot]

SW:BW 4EVAH

:>

[Ace195]

whoa...that sucks so much a** its not funny. Geez, 18 months, sweet jesus.....for some reason i picture the deDust2 map in my head with somebody yelling "GO GO GO", and some loser going "For hes a jolly good fellow!"....stupid CS
Lol, I hope not. That would get painful really quick because I die alot in CS

[Professor S]

That's what happens when you join the Army.

Are you actually defending your own country's freedom? I don't imagine there'll be another attack on america like the 9/11 attack in a good long while.

Well that sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy to me. If there isn't an attack because we are over there, it can never be proved thats the reason so then there is no reason to have troops there. Its cyclical logic. Also, we were convinced that there would ever be an attack on US soil before 9/11. See what assuming gets you?

Me? I feel safer taking the fight to them than just continuing to be a punching bg as the West has been for the past 30 years prior to 9/11.

And what makes me sad is that 8000 Iraqi civilians have been killed since America went into Iraq.

And over 400,000 have been found in mass graves (estimated total of over 1 million), killed by their own leader who we removed from power. I think thats a pretty good trade off, don't you?

Ace, good luck and keep safe. Also know that you are doing good in this world while being over there, unlike what some would rather have you believe.

[Canyarion]

Remember what G.I. Jane said: SUCK MY D*CK! :D

Good movie, happened to see it yesterday. But it made me pity/dislike the army even more.

[Jason1]

You guys aren't talking about Bush are you :) ??


Thats kinda what I was hinting at yea. But whatever.

[GiMpY-wAnNaBe]

Well that sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy to me. If there isn't an attack because we are over there, it can never be proved thats the reason so then there is no reason to have troops there. Its cyclical logic. Also, we were convinced that there would ever be an attack on US soil before 9/11. See what assuming gets you?

Me? I feel safer taking the fight to them than just continuing to be a punching bg as the West has been for the past 30 years prior to 9/11.

Quote:
And what makes me sad is that 8000 Iraqi civilians have been killed since America went into Iraq.

And over 400,000 have been found in mass graves (estimated total of over 1 million), killed by their own leader who we removed from power. I think thats a pretty good trade off, don't you?

Ace, good luck and keep safe. Also know that you are doing good in this world while being over there, unlike what some would rather have you believe.

I feel really bad about starting this up for the....uhh...i kinda lost count......;), but there isn't any proof that Saddam and Al Quieda were linked.....

[Professor S]

I feel really bad about starting this up for the....uhh...i kinda lost count......;), but there isn't any proof that Saddam and Al Quieda were linked.....

Uh, yeah there is. There was an article written not long ago in a reputable London paper (forget which one) that proved the link between the attack on 9/11 and Saddam Hussein. Turns out one of those who planned the attack was trained by Hussein's regime.

I forget which article that is, but I'll try and find it.

Surprised this news never made it big in the US media? I'm not.

But once again, this is about Ace, not Al Queida. Good luck my man.

[DeathsHand]

I feel really bad about starting this up for the....uhh...i kinda lost count......;), but there isn't any proof that Saddam and Al Quieda were linked.....

And the capture of Saddam Hussein hasn't made American's safer...

:sneaky:

[Dylflon]

I don't actually trust the media anymore. Everything gets censored. They only show the good things that the american soldiers have done in Iraq (or the things that make them look good) but never any of the bad things they do. I saw an Al Jazeera news cast where an entire family was killed because they "weren't cooperating" with the troops. One of the soldiers was hurting the man's son and the man got mad and pushed the soldier away from his son and the whole family was shot.

Censorship is wrong when the truth is what's being censored.

[Ace195]

Your a moron if you think that would be censored.. If you think the american goverment is just over there to kill innocent people come to Iowa preferrably around where I live and walk into a dark alley :D .. If someone got shot they threatened the life of a us troop.. Again I say if someone were to threaten my life better ME then them : )

But once again, this is about Ace, not Al Queida. Good luck my man.

I do appreciate it. :) I'm starting to not worry about going over there nearly as much even though I have a couple months' left to pack and plan. I'm looking into micro satellite modems :) .. Not tiny but I mean small :)

[Professor S]

If you are seriously trusting Al Jazeera for you balanced news source, then you're just looking for problems. I'm not saying that its all been a wonderful white knight experience from the US troops, but Al Jazeera would have you believe that Iraq was better off with Saddam, which is just stupid and without merit.

Bad things happen in war, but we have to look at the big picture here, and not just isolated incidences and start screaming "SEE?? SEE?? I TOLD YOU SO!!!"

Q: Are the Iraqi people better off without Saddam murdering them on a whim?

Yes. Duh.

Q: Is Iraq better off being a democracy?

Thats yet to be seen, but one would assume so as Dictatorships genarally create more horror than democracies by far.

Q: Is the world better off once a strong Arab nation is made democratic for the first time in history?

Once again yet to be seen, but I believe as many others do that it may be one of the most important happenings in world history. It could literally CHANGE THE WORLD... and for the better.

BTW, the article I quoted was from the Telegraph, but when I tried and bring it up it was too old and had been archived (it was published in early winter I think).

[Dylflon]

Buh. I'm not in support of Al Jazeera. I'm just not in support of censorship. I wish you'd just keep your mouth shut from time to time strangler. We've all heard your opinion on the war a thousand freaking times. I don't give a good god damn.

I watched a thing on CTV (a canadian channel) where they interviewed a lot of american reporters that went into Iraq. They showed a lot of footage that the government wouldn't allow them to air on CNN. Most of the incidents involving civilian killing i saw ddin't involve the civilians threatening the life of the U.S. troops in any way.

I'm not in support of Sadam or anything and I am in favor of democracy. So don't use those arguments against me to beat me in an argument. I just think that when you kill civilians your cause loses a good deal of credibility.

What I'm really worried about right now is all the middle easterners that the american government locked up in a camp in Guantonomo Bay. I'm sure most of them didn't do anything. They haven't been let go and it's been months. No fair trials or anything. This goes against the whole Geneva convention thing. And it's a lot like when Americans locked up the Japanese in cmaps during World War 2.

Personally i think the Patriot Act is a bunch of bull****. It's really just a step towards the whole Big Brother thing. Privacy is a right, not a privelage.

But anyhow, do i believe Saddam was a good person? No.
Do I trust Al Jazeera for a proper telling of the events surrounding "The War on Terrorism"? No.
Do I think democracy is a good thing? Yes.

I can't stand republicans like you, Strangler. You're a bunch of loud mouth bullies that insult what everyone else believes and blurt out whatever crap those retards in office tell you. If you think republicans should run the country, you are sadly mistaken. During Dubbya's time in office, lots of people have lost their jobs. Most since the great depression in fact.

I'm sick of hearing you're redundant side of the argument. It's all i hear whenever i say anything about the middle east. I'm not misinformed, you're just an idiot.

Besides, I think the fact that you're a fan of pro wrestling should render your opinions invalid.

[Rndm_Perfection]

I wish you'd just keep your mouth shut from time to time strangler. We've all heard your opinion on the war a thousand freaking times. I don't give a good god damn.


I suppose that's how all good people win debates.

Practice what you preach, man. Seriously.

[Ace195]

*Discalimer* Bond, Neo I first have to apologize for the language I am about to use please don't ban me because I like it here *Disclaimer*


Dyflon, I personally think you should really quit posting on this thread. Why well let me tell you..


I'm not in support of Sadam or anything and I am in favor of democracy. So don't use those arguments against me to beat me in an argument. I just think that when you kill civilians your cause loses a good deal of credibility.

What you might percieve as civillians even on canadian televison you don't ****ing have a clue about what goes on. Those ****ing civilians could be gun wielding terrorists. You don't have any ****ing clue how those soldiers out there to defend YOUR and yes I say your freedom are affected. You think that we American Soldiers Kill FOR FUN.. Well sir you are a ****ing MORON and need to be shot along with them.Noone likes to take a life even if you are trained for it. Noone not even myself but again if it were to come to me and you you dressed as a civilian claiming that you need refuge and you happend to reach inside your coat it would be you DEAD on the ground because I want to go home to my family.. I don't give a **** if you were reaching for a comb but I ME MYSELF AM GOING HOME..

What I'm really worried about right now is all the middle easterners that the american government locked up in a camp in Guantonomo Bay. I'm sure most of them didn't do anything. They haven't been let go and it's been months. No fair trials or anything. This goes against the whole Geneva convention thing. And it's a lot like when Americans locked up the Japanese in cmaps during World War 2.


Speak of what you ****ing know I mean are you dense or something you think they lock up people for the ****ing fun of it.. No they lock up people as a precaution for their and the us troops saftey.. YOU have no clue.. You should really read the geneva convention because I have you don't get a trial if you are a POW then you don't get one you will be released at the end of the confilct unless your are a war criminal.. SO DON'T SPEAK OUT YOUR ASS READ THEN REPLY..


Personally i think the Patriot Act is a bunch of bull****. It's really just a step towards the whole Big Brother thing. Privacy is a right, not a privelage.

**** YOU AND **** YOUR ANTI PATRIOTIC COMMENTS.. Because I had uncles and a best close friend of mine die in combat. He sacrificed his ****ing life so little.. could voice their HIPPIE opinions on the world you know nothing of combat and I don't respect you in the least the only thing you know is that your sheltered in your highschool and that you know nothing of combat of war of BROTHERHOOD of PATRIOTISM.. I guess thats something they don't teach in canada because its not like you had to fight to get freedom from england.. But I'll leave that alone because I'm NOT SURE

I can't stand republicans like you, Strangler. You're a bunch of loud mouth bullies that insult what everyone else believes and blurt out whatever crap those retards in office tell you. If you think republicans should run the country, you are sadly mistaken. During Dubbya's time in office, lots of people have lost their jobs. Most since the great depression in fact.

IF YOU CANT STAND HIM THEN STOP POSTING, I'm a republican and the only reason I'm bashing you is because you disgust me.. YOU SPEAK LIKE YOU'VE FOUGHT IN A WAR AND YOU KNOW NOTHING.

And what would you know of republicans running the office because I mean look at it this way he got a ****ed up situation to begin with and he's made it better then what he started with..

If you look at the job standpoint THE MARKET CRASHED BECAUSE OF TERROISM and is coming back up because of the war.. He's made multiple jobs in the war time.. And the economy's turned around because of DUBYA so SHUT IT..


Bond please don't ban me :)


[edit] DYFLON IF YOU NEED ANOTHER BASHING BECAUSE I KNOW YOUR REPLYING RIGHT NOW THEN BRING IT I'M GAME

[Dylflon]

Whee. And that's arguing with republicans.

I'm sorry you hate me Ace but regardless of your POV on the whole situation, i don't hate you.

*Nothing against you personally* But arguing with a republican is next to impossible. I look at what you say and what other people who see things differently from me, consider them, and then re-evaluate what I believe.

What I think we need is a little role reversal. A military force (Group X we shall call them.) invades you because they think George W. Bush is a tyrant and he's evil and your country's way of running a country is wrong. Now, their military force is much more powerful than yours. (We'll reverse funds here. Instead of America haveing billions in their military, Group X has billions of dollars invested in your military and America has only $250,000 in their military which is the estimated amount that the terrorist factions in Iraq have.)
Now, your country is being invaded. And your hypothetical son or dad or wife or brother or what have you has to pull something out of his jacket so he/she can lie on his stomach to comply with Group X's soldiers. He/she is shot on sight. Exactly how would that make you feel? Another country invades you, your neighbours are suffering and some of them are being killed. What would you want to do? What could you do? Would you fight them at the risk of being called a terrorist and then being shot? How could you handle being someone from a country that is getting invaded?

The problem with "suspected terrorists" being locked up is the fact that they didn't have any proof worthy of locking some of them up. That's why the U.N. is getting really pissed off about it.

What I don't get is how me believeing privacy is a right makes me an unpatriotic hippy. Would you like cameras in your house or some crap like that?
And I'm sorry people you know died fighting for their country. I don't disrespect them or anything. But it always turns out that these wars didn't need to be fought. WWII was the only major war that I think was worth going to.

Oh...and a lot of jobs have been lost while the war has been taking place.

I respect what you have to say but please consider what I have to say before you yell at me again.

It's a damn shame that you have to go to war. I feel for you. None of the soldiers should still be there. And I certainly don't think this war was worth the lives it cost on both sides. But that's just my opinion.

[ZEROCOOLER]

Dylflon I think your views would change if you had to go over there and constantly worrie about someone trying to kill you. I mean you tell me you have seen video of
Americans killing civillians, well how do you know they were civillians? You dont know why the Americans killed them you dont know if they were civillians all you saw was some video of American troops killing some people who were dressed like civillians. The point is you know nothing so shut the hell up.

[Ace195]

Whee. And that's arguing with republicans.

I'm sorry you hate me Ace but regardless of your POV on the whole situation, i don't hate you.

*Nothing against you personally* But arguing with a republican is next to impossible. I look at what you say and what other people who see things differently from me, consider them, and then re-evaluate what I believe.

What I think we need is a little role reversal. A military force (Group X we shall call them.) invade you because they think George W. Bush is a tyrant and he's evil and your country's way of running a country is wrong. Now, their military force is much more powerful than yours. (We'll reverse funds here. Instead of America haveing billions in their military, Group X has billions of dollars invested in your military and America has only $250,000 in their military which is the estimated amount that the terrorist factions in Iraq have.)
Now, your country is being invaded. And your hypothetical son or dad or wife or brother or what have you has to pull something out of his jacket so he/she can lie on his stomach to comply with Group X's soldiers. He/she is shot on sight. Exactly how would that make you feel? Another country invades you, your neighbours are suffering and some of them are being killed. What would you want to do? What could you do? Would you fight them at the risk of being called a terrorist and then being shot? How could you handle being someone from a country that is getting invaded?

The problem with "suspected terrorists" being locked up is the fact that they didn't have any proof worthy of locking some of them up. That's why the U.N. is getting really pissed off about it.

What I don't get is how me believeing privacy is a right makes me an unpatriotic hippy. Would you like cameras in your house or some crap like that?
And I'm sorry people you know died fighting for their country. I don't disrespect them or anything. But it always turns out that these wars didn't need to be fought. WWII was the only major war that I think was worth going to.

Oh...and a lot of jobs have been lost while the war has been taking place.

I respect what you have to say but please consider what I have to say before you yell at me again.

It's a damn shame that you have to go to war. I feel for you. None of the soldiers should still be there. And I certainly don't think this war was worth the lives it cost on both sides. But that's just my opinion.



And it will start yet again.. unless bond closes this thread which I hope he doesn't because what is the point of a forum if the threads are closed due to arguments ?

No disclaimer this time thus no cussing :)


ok here goes.. dyflon in 1990 or 1991 we had the GULF WAR why you may ask ?

Because that person that your defending Ie. Sadam Hussain decided to take over Kuwait and steal their entire gold fortune .. ect.. Because they were close to him. They had scuds and chemical weapons of all sorts. So it's not people thinking he was a tyrant it's knowing he is a tyrant.


And killing 400 thousand of his own people you don't think thats wrong. What were you a hitler youth or something want to send people to be executed in gas chambers little hitler ?


Ok next topic the killing of civilians, dyflon if you so much as watch the news you would notice that people that live in iraq get along with us soldiers fine they have even had an economy boost from the soldiers buying trinkets to send home. The people that get shot more then likely deserve it..


On your next subject of Proof.. You say that the un is getting angry with the us ? You must watch the taliban news network to get your news don't you YOU WATCH TNN ( Ha I made a funny )... Because they have found chemical weapons. But the way they find them determines weither they are that of mass destruction. Like if you find one then another 100 yards from it they aren't weapons of mass destruction just weapons.. PAY ATTENTION..



And how did we get on the subject of privacy anyways I mean do you have a camera in your home ? Is there someone watching you 24/7 is there a microchip implanted in your hand to monitor your movements ? NO ? hrm.. well then how do you figure your being monitored and where did you get the idea for bigbrother anyways.. You need to stop reading scifi and read the news paper..

[Ace195]

How do you know that they ARE ?

[Dylflon]

Okay, I ahve at no point said I was in support of Sadam Hussein. I don't think he's a good guy. In fact i think he's a son of a bitch. I do think him killing innocent people was wrong. I don't think it's right when anyone kills civilians. And calling me a nazi doesn't add credability to your argument and I am very offended by you saying i gas people and that I'm a Hitler youth. I have relatives who've died too. Died in WWII. My grandpa served in WWII and was almost killed a number of times. I don't like Sadam and I don't like Hitler and i especially don't like you calling me a nazi.

And the problem with reading the newspaper is that you're only reading the good stuff about what america is doing. Not all civilians get along with soldiers. Many of them fight them becasue they don't like their neighbourhoods being occupied.

And I didn't find out the U.N. was mad at america for the imprisonment of Iraqi-Americans form a taliban news source but from a British one.

And on the privacy bit,

the Patriot Act was what the american government used to imprison many of the prisoners that are in that camp right now. And my problem with it is they never showed any real evidence of them being terrorists.

In fiction the big brother concept comes from the very well written piece of literature called 1984. The patriot act resembles closely the beginnings of something very much like the Big Brother program in the book 1984. That's why I made the reference.

you aren't making a strong argument, you're just trying to put me down.

[Oh, and I'm also offended by you saying I should be shot. That didn't sound very mature.]

[Ace195]

the Patriot Act was what the american government used to imprison many of the prisoners that are in that camp right now. And my problem with it is they never showed any real evidence of them being terrorists


What kind of evidence do you want.. You want one of them to run into your school and blow up the building before you put them in a WAR detention center ?

And the problem with reading the newspaper is that you're only reading the good stuff about what america is doing. Not all civilians get along with soldiers. Many of them fight them becasue they don't like their neighbourhoods being occupied.

No because I read the army times and the other news papers on the internet even the ones from england.. And sure they fight because they don't like their neighborhoods being occupied then should not resist and everyone would be out of there soon..

In fiction the big brother concept comes from the very well written piece of literature called 1984. The patriot act resembles closely the beginnings of something very much like the Big Brother program in the book 1984. That's why I made the reference.

Yes I'm a quite fond of that peice of literature.. BUT IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN

[Dylflon]

I want evidence that they were conected to a terrorist organizationor confirmed terrorists.
And I don't care how many news papers you read. The U.N. wants to know what the hell the deal is with the camp.
And who are you to say that it can't happen? The Patriot Act seems like a nice big first step towards that.


By the way, I want you to apologize for saying i gas people and that I'm Hitler youth.

[Ace195]

I want evidence that they were conected to a terrorist organizationor confirmed terrorists

Hrm.. you can want until you die but you don't get what you want.

And I don't care how many news papers you read. The U.N. wants to know what the hell the deal is with the camp.

The first thing you said was that the UN wanted to know about the iraq war and you failed to prove that show me an article saying about gitmo bay and I'll be in awe..

And who are you to say that it can't happen? The Patriot Act seems like a nice big first step towards that.

A tax payer and NO person in America would let that happen

[Dylflon]

And are you going to apologize for calling me Hitler youth?

Oh and it's funny because Americans are letting the patriot act happen. Who's to stop the powers to be now, hmm? *eerie them plays*

[ZEROCOOLER]

For those of us who are not to familiar with the patriot act could one of you explain it please?

[Ace195]

No.. not in this life time or the next.. or the one after that.. or the one after that.. do you get the picture ?

[Dylflon]

So...you stand by you insult that really offended me with. You know...by calling me Hitler youth?

[Ace195]

Yeah I don't say something Unless I do mean it. Anyone who can honestly dis being patriotic and say that any action to free people is wrong ...

[ZEROCOOLER]

For the love of god and all that is holy will someone just tell me what the FU*kin patriot act is

[Ace195]

For the love of god and all that is holy will someone just tell me what the FU*kin patriot act is
http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html

[Dylflon]

USA PATRIOT ACT of 2001
(Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism)
The USA PATRIOT Act broadly expands law enforcement's surveillance and investigative powers. In particular, the law raises complicated questions with respect to what constitutes a business record and the law's broad definition of computer trespassers. The law also creates a new relationship between domestic criminal investigations related to foreign intelligence.
The new law moved through Congress quickly and as a result lacks an extensive legislative history that can be referenced. ALA and others in the library community will continue to analyze the act, monitor how it is implemented, and what its impact is on libraries and library users.

To provide guidance to libraries ALA provides the following materials to offer guidance and suggestions how libraries should respond if law enforcement "knocks at the door."

http://www.ala.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Our_Association/Offices/ALA_Washington/Issues2/Civil_Liberties,_Intellectual_Freedom,_Privacy/The_USA_Patriot_Act_and_Libraries/Default2437.htm

[Ace195]

USA PATRIOT ACT of 2001
(Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism)
The USA PATRIOT Act broadly expands law enforcement's surveillance and investigative powers. In particular, the law raises complicated questions with respect to what constitutes a business record and the law's broad definition of computer trespassers. The law also creates a new relationship between domestic criminal investigations related to foreign intelligence.
The new law moved through Congress quickly and as a result lacks an extensive legislative history that can be referenced. ALA and others in the library community will continue to analyze the act, monitor how it is implemented, and what its impact is on libraries and library users.

To provide guidance to libraries ALA provides the following materials to offer guidance and suggestions how libraries should respond if law enforcement "knocks at the door."

http://www.ala.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Our_Association/Offices/ALA_Washington/Issues2/Civil_Liberties,_Intellectual_Freedom,_Privacy/The_USA_Patriot_Act_and_Libraries/Default2437.htm
Read the entire act.. It says if DUE CAUSE IS SHOWN

[Dylflon]

And you're putting words in my mouth. In no place did I say or do what you said I said and did.

I demand a damn apology. I will not take anybody calling me a Hitler youth or nazi lightly. What you did was flaming. You better freaking apologize. I won't let that one just slide off my back.

You said before that I should be shot. That made me mad but I let it go. But calling me Hitler youth is so far over the line.

[Ace195]

You better freaking apologize
Really ? I better huh ? I'll show you the line.. and then I throw you off of it

[ZEROCOOLER]

Ok I think you all just need to calm down and get off the internet for awhile. Serious why the hell is this not closed yet, the two of you just need to stop posting and leave eachother alone.

[Dylflon]

Oh. I will. Once he apologizes for calling me Hitler youth. I'm against killing people. How the hell does that make me a nzai? I want to know. Explain that to me.



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Bam, I'm offended. Racially I might add.

[ZEROCOOLER]

Post-cramming or "spamming" in order to increase your
post/doubloon count

Well you have been post cramming in this thread like a mofo so if he gets banned you should be to.

[Dylflon]

Except for the fact that I have something to say each time. It's no spam. I don't give a damn about my post count. Why don't you but out?

[ZEROCOOLER]

Well you tell me to "but out" but you both posted in a thread were everyone else is able to respond if you did not want other people giving their opinion then you should have talked or argued threw pm's or aim.

[Ace195]

Posting anything of a racially offensive nature.. wow you have to be dense.. Are you a Nazi ? If no then this has nothing to do with racially offensive nature :) end of story. Pay attention to the fine lines :)
(edit)
IF Bond or neo deems to ban me.. Fine but I don't take back what I say I will not bend to a jr high imbecile :) Once you get into the real world and actually have to go somewhere I will respect you until then Its past your bedtime chillin go to sleep..

[Dylflon]

Jr. High? Argh. Are you to proud to apologize? Be a man.

[Ace195]

Jr. High? Argh. Are you to proud to apologize? Be a man.

No I only aplogize when I'm wrong. GET IT RIGHT PUTZ

[ZEROCOOLER]

Ace never called you a Hitler youth he just asked if you were one.

[Ace195]

is a tyrant and he's evil and your country's way of running a country is wrong.
And killing 400 thousand of his own people you don't think thats wrong. What were you a hitler youth or something want to send people to be executed in gas chambers little hitler ?

Man you sure think like one though.. You just read the words but don't understand the context

[Jonbo298]

*jumps in for random comment*
:roll:Proud to be a democrat:roll:

[Ace195]

lol jon.. what are you doing tomorrow / today because I need to change the oil in my truck then something :P

[Jonbo298]

lol jon.. what are you doing tomorrow / today because I need to change the oil in my truck then something :P

what? I cant change oil properly. But i need to get freddy vs. jason:D

[Ace195]

what? I cant change oil properly. But i need to get freddy vs. jason:D
As do I

[The Germanator]

Are these short replies about your personal plans really necessary?

[Ace195]

Are these short replies about your personal plans really necessary?

Sorry jon doesn't have aim at work I'll try to keep it in PM :) :D

[Jonbo298]

Are these short replies about your personal plans really necessary?

what?! its only a few replies. Stop complaining! :p (I'm not po'ed, just some sarcasm)

*edit*
But i can use AIM at work;)

[Professor S]

Buh. I'm not in support of Al Jazeera. I'm just not in support of censorship. I wish you'd just keep your mouth shut from time to time strangler. We've all heard your opinion on the war a thousand freaking times. I don't give a good god damn.

I watched a thing on CTV (a canadian channel) where they interviewed a lot of american reporters that went into Iraq. They showed a lot of footage that the government wouldn't allow them to air on CNN. Most of the incidents involving civilian killing i saw ddin't involve the civilians threatening the life of the U.S. troops in any way.

I'm not in support of Sadam or anything and I am in favor of democracy. So don't use those arguments against me to beat me in an argument. I just think that when you kill civilians your cause loses a good deal of credibility.

What I'm really worried about right now is all the middle easterners that the american government locked up in a camp in Guantonomo Bay. I'm sure most of them didn't do anything. They haven't been let go and it's been months. No fair trials or anything. This goes against the whole Geneva convention thing. And it's a lot like when Americans locked up the Japanese in cmaps during World War 2.

Personally i think the Patriot Act is a bunch of bull****. It's really just a step towards the whole Big Brother thing. Privacy is a right, not a privelage.

But anyhow, do i believe Saddam was a good person? No.
Do I trust Al Jazeera for a proper telling of the events surrounding "The War on Terrorism"? No.
Do I think democracy is a good thing? Yes.

I can't stand republicans like you, Strangler. You're a bunch of loud mouth bullies that insult what everyone else believes and blurt out whatever crap those retards in office tell you. If you think republicans should run the country, you are sadly mistaken. During Dubbya's time in office, lots of people have lost their jobs. Most since the great depression in fact.

I'm sick of hearing you're redundant side of the argument. It's all i hear whenever i say anything about the middle east. I'm not misinformed, you're just an idiot.

Besides, I think the fact that you're a fan of pro wrestling should render your opinions invalid.

Wow, anyone else think that this is possibly one of the more desperate posts EVER in a political topic?

1) I'm not a Republican, but I am a conservative. There is a difference.

2) For someone who screams against me being redundant about Iraq, you're the one who started the whole discussion to begin with. You sound pretty silly talking to me about "shutting up" when you are the one that starts the argument that we've seen a 100 times before. I don't start it, I finish it.

3) I don't blindly believe whatever the white house tells me, but I also don't immediately dismiss it as you do. I pointed out that there are bad things that happen in war and that the US isn't just all flowers and good times, but when looking at the big picture this effort will be a good thing. Way to miss my point completely.

4) Bringing pro Wrestling into the argument to discredit me? Wow. You are REALLY grasping at straws.

5) I never said you supported Saddam, but guess what? The news organization that you referenced earlier obviously DID. Please stop making assumptions and putting words into my mouth. Thank you.

Honestly, posts like this only instill more faith in my opinions. It had little to do with my argument at all and pretty much just told me to shut up because I like pro wrestling...

Consider yourself broken.

[Dark Samurai]

*Discalimer* Bond, Neo I first have to apologize for the language I am about to use please don't ban me because I like it here *Disclaimer*


Dyflon, I personally think you should really quit posting on this thread. Why well let me tell you..




What you might percieve as civillians even on canadian televison you don't ****ing have a clue about what goes on. Those ****ing civilians could be gun wielding terrorists. You don't have any ****ing clue how those soldiers out there to defend YOUR and yes I say your freedom are affected. You think that we American Soldiers Kill FOR FUN.. Well sir you are a ****ing MORON and need to be shot along with them.Noone likes to take a life even if you are trained for it. Noone not even myself but again if it were to come to me and you you dressed as a civilian claiming that you need refuge and you happend to reach inside your coat it would be you DEAD on the ground because I want to go home to my family.. I don't give a **** if you were reaching for a comb but I ME MYSELF AM GOING HOME..




Speak of what you ****ing know I mean are you dense or something you think they lock up people for the ****ing fun of it.. No they lock up people as a precaution for their and the us troops saftey.. YOU have no clue.. You should really read the geneva convention because I have you don't get a trial if you are a POW then you don't get one you will be released at the end of the confilct unless your are a war criminal.. SO DON'T SPEAK OUT YOUR ASS READ THEN REPLY..




**** YOU AND **** YOUR ANTI PATRIOTIC COMMENTS.. Because I had uncles and a best close friend of mine die in combat. He sacrificed his ****ing life so little.. could voice their HIPPIE opinions on the world you know nothing of combat and I don't respect you in the least the only thing you know is that your sheltered in your highschool and that you know nothing of combat of war of BROTHERHOOD of PATRIOTISM.. I guess thats something they don't teach in canada because its not like you had to fight to get freedom from england.. But I'll leave that alone because I'm NOT SURE



IF YOU CANT STAND HIM THEN STOP POSTING, I'm a republican and the only reason I'm bashing you is because you disgust me.. YOU SPEAK LIKE YOU'VE FOUGHT IN A WAR AND YOU KNOW NOTHING.

And what would you know of republicans running the office because I mean look at it this way he got a ****ed up situation to begin with and he's made it better then what he started with..

If you look at the job standpoint THE MARKET CRASHED BECAUSE OF TERROISM and is coming back up because of the war.. He's made multiple jobs in the war time.. And the economy's turned around because of DUBYA so SHUT IT..


Bond please don't ban me :)


[edit] DYFLON IF YOU NEED ANOTHER BASHING BECAUSE I KNOW YOUR REPLYING RIGHT NOW THEN BRING IT I'M GAME


can you say :minigun2: BURNED!!!!!! :minigun:

no really im kidding

i just wanted to say that

[Rndm_Perfection]

[Oh, and I'm also offended by you saying I should be shot. That didn't sound very mature.]

tee hee... You should realize maturity is not the strong point of this thread.

[Ace195]

tee hee... You should realize maturity is not the strong point of this thread.
Yeah this thread started as me saying when I'm getting deployed then it turned into a political argument with dyflon saying just don't kill any civilians.. :wtf: A simple good luck would have worked :)

[Professor S]

Good luck Ace, and don't let the inherent evil of the US Goverment twist you into some freaking Uruk Hai who only knows death and the torture of innocents... KILL!!! KILL!!! KILL!!!

Oh wait, I'm sorry, was that both ignorant and innappropriate? My bad. :D

[Bond]

I'm sick of hearing you're redundant side of the argument. It's all i hear whenever i say anything about the middle east. I'm not misinformed, you're just an idiot.
Possibly Strangler is also sick of hearing your redundant side of the argument.

This topic has gotten way out of control and will be closed. I'm not going to ban you Ace, but try to calm down.