Magic the Gathering Apprentice Tournament

[Vampyr]

I have decided that the contest forum needs to see a little more action, and what better way to do it than a Magic tournament?

Magic The Gathering, for those of you who dont know, is an extremely strategy based trading card game. But lets face it, if you dont know what MtG is, than your not likely to do well at all in this tournament. It is possible to play Magic on the internet, using a software called "apprentice". To get apprentice, go to this site:

Dragon Studios (http://www.dragonstudios.com)
If Dragon Studios will not load, use this site: http://www.mtgparadise.com/~mtgportal/pages/appr.htm
But it doesnt have the Mirrodin set in it. Oh well. I dont like Mirrodin anyway.

Click on Apprentice, then download it. Then download the latest Oracle patch. Then familiarize yourself with the system, and create a legal Type 2 deck. You heard me TYPE 2! In order to create a type 2 deck, just apply the "Type 2" filter when creating a deck in the "Deck Editor."

So, if you download this, or already have it, and are interested in participating in the Great GameTavern Magic Tournament, just make a post saying it, and I will constantly update this post with a list of participants.

There are three formats you can play in: Type II (current cards), Type I (every card ever created), Type II & I (you play in both tournaments.)

Once (if) we have enough, the Tournament will commense.

Type II:
Participants:
Vampyr
The Sly Moogle
Rndm_Perfection
Josh
Bube

Type I:
Participants
StoneCutter
The Sly Moogle
Josh
Rndm_Perfection
Vampyr (I decided I would go through the 1000's of cards, and I made what I think is an awesome Type I deck.)
Bube

If you havent played magic in a great deal of time, and you arent familiar with the Type II format, or if you have never played magic before and are interested in starting, then go to this site: Brain Burst (http://www.brainburst.com) and get a premade deck that you find interesting or looks like fun to play with. But be warned: Its not nearly as rewarding to play and win with a deck built by someone else than it is with your own deck.

[TheSlyMoogle]

Come on people let's tounament it up! Apprentice rules! Online Magic Tournament style! I want some competition!

[Rndm_Perfection]

I don't like the idea only because it loses the element of possession. I can make the ultimate type two deck.. whee.

But anywho, I think I'll join for the hell of it. It'd be a good way to at least test out decks.

[Stonecutter]

I'll play if you guys do a type 1 or a type 1.5 tourney, but as I haven't played in about 3 years, and have zero desire to read through about 1000 cards to find a decent deck strategy, I really don't want to play type two.


Now, if you want to do a little urzas/mercadian or tempest/urzas block type two, that's cool by me.

[Vampyr]

Since I only started playing about a year ago, I have zero desire to go through 1000's of cards to make a good deck.

But I'll go ahead and make a seperate bracket for a Type I tournament, and anyone who wants to participate in it, or Type II, or both, can have their names added to the relative list.

But I must say, its not hard to find a Type II deck. If you dont feel like making one yourself, go to Brain Burst (http://www.brainburst.com) and find one already built.

[Stonecutter]

Since I only started playing about a year ago, I have zero desire to go through 1000's of cards to make a good deck.

But I'll go ahead and make a seperate bracket for a Type I tournament, and anyone who wants to participate in it, or Type II, or both, can have their names added to the relative list.

But I must say, its not hard to find a Type II deck. If you dont feel like making one yourself, go to Brain Burst (http://www.brainburst.com) and find one already built.
A pre built deck!

Where's the fun in that?

[Vampyr]

A pre built deck!

Where's the fun in that?

If you check my original post, I put I've already put in a disclaimer for that. :p

But be warned: Its not nearly as rewarding to play and win with a deck built by someone else than it is with your own deck.

But, using a premade deck is more fun than not playing at all.

[TheSlyMoogle]

I would definantly be interested in a type 1 tounament.

[Rndm_Perfection]

I'll go Type one as well... and I'll actually use a deck that I own!

[Bube]

I get "host not found" when I go to dragonstudios.com. And I really wanted to play...

[Vampyr]

The site appears to be down right now...I'll try to find a mirror site. Check this post for updates.

[edit] http://www.mtgparadise.com/~mtgportal/pages/appr.htm

This is apprentice...but its lacking the Mirrodin expansion. I think Mirrodin sucks, though, so you shouldnt need it. :p

[Rndm_Perfection]

This is apprentice...but its lacking the Mirrodin expansion. I think Mirrodin sucks, though, so you shouldnt need it. :p

Err, Mirrodin is very, very good.
Not having it, you'd be at quite the disadvantage.


Oooh... I love mah lightning greaves.

[Vampyr]

Err, Mirrodin is very, very good.
Not having it, you'd be at quite the disadvantage.


Oooh... I love mah lightning greaves.

Its almost entirely about Artifacts, though. Unless you want an artifact deck, Mirrodin is practically useless. That Zombie deck that I just beat you with on Apprentice didnt use Mirrodin, and it beat a Type I deck. So there.

[Rndm_Perfection]

Its almost entirely about Artifacts, though. Unless you want an artifact deck, Mirrodin is practically useless. That Zombie deck that I just beat you with on Apprentice didnt use Mirrodin, and it beat a Type I deck. So there.

A type one deck that I've never used and relied on a combo that was near impossible to get out, what is your point?

And I'm confused about Mirrodin being useless because it uses artifacts. Artifacts can fit into any deck... they are colorless.

But yes, your zombie deck did use a mirrodin card, terror.

[Ace195]

Hrm.. how for you play are ? I'm confused are you playing over webcam or something ?
If so I'll find my cards and play :P. But you'd have to tell me times meh.. But thats way too much of a hassel

[Stonecutter]

For whatever reason, apprentice isn't working for me, I keep getting an error message "silver is not a valad integer value" and then it doesn't work, I don't get the "table" part of the screen.

I'll wait for dragon studios to come back up, or someone can send me the file for XP.

[TheSlyMoogle]

I could send you the XP file. It's only like a MB zipped. Wouldn't take long. And the Oracle update isn't large.

[Vampyr]

A type one deck that I've never used and relied on a combo that was near impossible to get out, what is your point?

And I'm confused about Mirrodin being useless because it uses artifacts. Artifacts can fit into any deck... they are colorless.

But yes, your zombie deck did use a mirrodin card, terror.

Damn. Your right about me using terror. I thought that was 8E.

But anyway, you can like Mirrodin if you want. Its just my opinion of it. I dont like it. I know people who hate scourge, but its my favorite expansion.

Hrm.. how for you play are ? I'm confused are you playing over webcam or something ?
If so I'll find my cards and play :P. But you'd have to tell me times meh.. But thats way too much of a hassel

No, we use a program called Apprentice. Its a simple program (though very buggy) that has a database of every card ever created. You dont get to see the cool artwork, but it has all the neccesary info for each card.

For whatever reason, apprentice isn't working for me, I keep getting an error message "silver is not a valad integer value" and then it doesn't work, I don't get the "table" part of the screen.

Like I said, Apprentice is very buggy. It does that sometimes. What I do to fix it is to redownload it.

I could send you the XP file. It's only like a MB zipped. Wouldn't take long. And the Oracle update isn't large.

If you cant get apprentice any other way, or you need the Oracle file (this is the file that includes EVERY expansion), then get it off of Moogle or I.

[Stonecutter]

I've downloaded it 3 times, I know it's a buggy program, but I never had this much trouble on my old comp.

[Bube]

Dragon Studios is back up. I'm d/loading it (with Mirrodin, I hope, because I like Mirrodin).

I beat my 2 of my friends with custom decks (and one of them is very good at building decks) with my pre-constructioned Mirrodin deck. The artifact affinity is very good.

[Vampyr]

Dragon Studios is back up. I'm d/loading it (with Mirrodin, I hope, because I like Mirrodin).

I beat my 2 of my friends with custom decks (and one of them is very good at building decks) with my pre-constructioned Mirrodin deck. The artifact affinity is very good.

Glad to see DS is back up.

Indeed, Affinity is good, but I have a deck that can own Affinity any day. :D

[TheSlyMoogle]

Glad to see DS is back up.

Indeed, Affinity is good, but I have a deck that can own Affinity any day. :D

I would hope you don't mean Goblin Bidding. Hmm, Mono-Control White Owns GB! HA HA! Angels to the rescue!

[Rndm_Perfection]

I would hope you don't mean Goblin Bidding. Hmm, Mono-Control White Owns GB! HA HA! Angels to the rescue!

I personally cannot see angels defeating goblins. Goblin deck is terribly fast...

Heh, unless you have a isochron scepter and holy day *shudders*.

Stuff like Akroma is nice, but you'd have to get extraplanar lense out to get any hope of playing her by turn five with a mono-white.

Serra Angels on the other hand... super cool creatures.

[Vampyr]

I personally cannot see angels defeating goblins. Goblin deck is terribly fast...

Heh, unless you have a isochron scepter and holy day *shudders*.

Stuff like Akroma is nice, but you'd have to get extraplanar lense out to get any hope of playing her by turn five with a mono-white.

Serra Angels on the other hand... super cool creatures.

Sadly, his Angel deck has been known to defeat my Goblin deck, but my Goblin deck has on occasion beat the Angels.

But, Moogle, what does Angels have to do with my Goblins stomping Affinity? GB still owns Affinity.

So, Bube, which tournaments do you want in on?

[Bube]

What do you mean by which tournaments? I don't get it?

[Vampyr]

What do you mean by which tournaments? I don't get it?

We are having two tournaments here on GT:
A Type I format, and a Type II format.

A Type I format means you can use any card ever created. A Type II format means that you can only use recent cards.
(To find out which cards you can use in Type II, just apply a Type II filter in the Deck Editor on apprentice.)

When I ask you which tournament(s) you wanted in, I was asking you which of the two (or both) of the tournaments you wanted to compete in. For a list of people currently signed up to compete in each tournament, check my very first post on this thread.

Once we have enough people and its obvious no one else will join, the tournament will commense.

I'll create a bracket for each tournament, and the Type II tournament will be held first.

Question: Do you guys want to play single or double elimination?

[Bube]

Ok, I get TI, TII stuff, but it doesn't matter. As long as I can use my Mirrodin deck (it's my newest, and it sucks less than my other deck).

[Vampyr]

Ok, I get TI, TII stuff, but it doesn't matter. As long as I can use my Mirrodin deck (it's my newest, and it sucks less than my other deck).

I'll put you in both, then. :D

[edit] Did you ever get Apprentice to work, Stoney?

[Stonecutter]

OH! yes, sorry about not keeping you updated, I'll be good to go.

[Vampyr]

OH! yes, sorry about not keeping you updated, I'll be good to go.

Very suave. :D

Are you sure about not being in Type II? If we had one more person, then I wouldnt have to worry about giving anyone a by.

And I have also decided to make it double elimination, that way everyone gets some to play at least two games.

[TheSlyMoogle]

I know that you're waiting for a player oh great sage and eminent Junkie, but will this tournement be before the break ends? I would like that.

[Vampyr]

I know that you're waiting for a player oh great sage and eminent Junkie, but will this tournement be before the break ends? I would like that.

Your Dark Tower references are neat. :D

But yeah, it will be before break is over. But Im going to schedule around the survivor events, so it wont be tomorrow.

Ace said in his PM he was going to sign up for the tournament, but Im not sure if he was going to post in this thread or just wanted me to put him on, and I dont know what formats he wants to compete in.

Plus, I would really like to have an even number in both formats, Its going to be hard to do the T2 one with 5 instead of 6 people.

We will wait to see what the future holds, Gunslinger.

[TheSlyMoogle]

Hmm I would also think that anytime near the 1st would be bad, I know I have family Junk on the 31st and 1st. Maybe sometime on the evening of the 1st would be cool. I know my parents will be very difficult to work with because they always want the phone. Ahh, I hope I can play, I have cool decks planned for the Tournements.

[Vampyr]

Hmm I would also think that anytime near the 1st would be bad, I know I have family Junk on the 31st and 1st. Maybe sometime on the evening of the 1st would be cool. I know my parents will be very difficult to work with because they always want the phone. Ahh, I hope I can play, I have cool decks planned for the Tournements.


How about the 2nd? Is that good for everyone? This way no one has a hangover and can play well.

[Bube]

Our time difference is at least 7 hours. How will we get together?

BTW, I come home only at weekends and wednesdays. I can't play any other way. Sorry for the trouble...

[Yugi Starwind]

ahh *sighs* I just leaned how to play MTG from my friend. he's good, won a few competitions. I beat him once or twice, but I'm nowhere near his level of expertise(considering he has 1,000+ cards and started playing 3 0r 4 years ago, and I just started 2 or 3 weeks ago). I mainly use a white creature deck. i'm gonna try to build a good blue deck,my buddy killed me with that thing, and maybe a red or a green(more likely red, because it focuses on heavy hitting)....don't have any money, tho.
maybe i could make it. what time, tho? and how?
oh well, that's how the mana pool is tapped.......

[Vampyr]

Ok, I was planning on doing this the 2nd of January. But, due to recent discoveries, I have to reconsider.


[EDIT] CHECK MY LAST POST ON THIS THREAD FOR THE TOURNAMENT TIMES. THEY DIFFER FROM WHAT WAS IN YOUR PM's.



ahh *sighs* I just leaned how to play MTG from my friend. he's good, won a few competitions. I beat him once or twice, but I'm nowhere near his level of expertise(considering he has 1,000+ cards and started playing 3 0r 4 years ago, and I just started 2 or 3 weeks ago). I mainly use a white creature deck. i'm gonna try to build a good blue deck,my buddy killed me with that thing, and maybe a red or a green(more likely red, because it focuses on heavy hitting)....don't have any money, tho.
maybe i could make it. what time, tho? and how?
oh well, that's how the mana pool is tapped.......

Your a little late getting to this...but I'll give you a chance. Go download this program: Apprentice (http://www.dragonstudios.com), and download the "Oracle" patch also located at this site.

Since you just started playing, Im going to assume that you play using newer cards, so I am going to put you in the Type II tournament. Type I is full. This will make 6 people in each tournament, double elimination style.

Ok, Yugi, you have until 1:00 PM January 3rd Est Time to reply to this message, saying that you have apprentice downloaded and ready to compete. If you do not reply by then, I will assume you are not going to compete and you will not be able too.

In case you dont know, Type II is a format of tournament, in which only the last 5 sets are legal to play with: Onslaught, Legions, Scourge, 8 Edition, and Mirrodin. If you want to know what cards are legal, when you download apprentice, just open the "Deck Editor" and apply a "Type II" filter.

Remember, 1:00 PM Jan. 3rd Est. Time.

Be there, or be square. :p

[Stonecutter]

I'm not going to be around satruday night.


Sorry.

[Vampyr]

I'm not going to be around satruday night.


Sorry.

Ok. Ive decided that putting an actual date and time on this thing is stupid and pointless. it will not work out for everyone. So, the tournament begins as soon as Yugi confirms to me that he is either in or out. The tournament will last for as long as it takes to play the damn thing.

As soon as I find out whether Yugi is in or out, Im going to make a bracet. When you are online at the same time the person your supposed to play against is, play your games.

You will do the best out of three in all of your games. Then you will report the winner, and I will update the bracets. Dont procrastinate, play your matches as soon as you see your opponet online.

Keep checking back here for the bracets.

By doing this instead of actually making a set time, things will move MUCH more smoothly, and if everything goes according to plan, we will be finished before Christmas Break is over.

[edit] if your not a very acitive member on GameTavern, and you dont feel like logging on constantly to see if your opponent is on, just contact me and I will set up a time for your match.

[TheSlyMoogle]

Hey everyone in the tournements here is my e-mail address: Moogledude85@hotmail.com

That's for my MSN. Just if you have to play me contact me through that.

Coolness.

[Josh]

You know that's a good idea.

My email is fallingtides@hotmail.com

I use MSN also so if you are up to play me... or just want to talk, message me.

[Vampyr]

My IM ID's are in my user profile.

The bracets for the tournament are up. Go here (http://www.gametavern.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7438) , and start playing!

THE GAMES HAVE BEGUN!

[TheSlyMoogle]

I don't understand why we couldn't go ahead and play either Type one or two? I don't see how that matters. Besides we won't be able to really get the Type Two going until tomorrow because you don't know the whole Yugi situation, and bube isn't home until the weekend. Hmm.

[Vampyr]

I don't understand why we couldn't go ahead and play either Type one or two? I don't see how that matters. Besides we won't be able to really get the Type Two going until tomorrow because you don't know the whole Yugi situation, and bube isn't home until the weekend. Hmm.

I dont know. I just thought it would be easier and less confusing if we did one at once. I guess we could do both at the same time, it would take less time, but you would have to report who won, and for what tournament you won in. I'll update the post in the other thread.

So...just to confirm it, both tourneys are on now.

[TheSlyMoogle]

Ahh reporting who won. Reminds me of my first and only chess tournement so far. Ahh... Chess. :)

Whoo Hoo! Well I guess the tournement will start tomorrow.

[TheSlyMoogle]

Uhhhh... I notice that no one is actually playing the tournements except me and Vampyr. So is anyone else actually going to play? Just a thought. Josh, you need to get on the internet more.

[Vampyr]

Josh, you need to get on the internet more.

Agreed.


And Ive done all I can do. I cant MAKE people play. :(

[Bube]

Rndm Perfection told me that I could go on (like I beat him, even though we didn't play). But he has to post here saying that as well, right?

And I can't find Stonecutter. I had even sent him a PM saying that he could go on if I didn't show up until wednesday. He didn't even reply.

[TheSlyMoogle]

Hmm... I think this magic tournement idea is going awry!

[Vampyr]

Hmm... I think this magic tournement idea is going awry!

Going to hell is more like it. :(

Oh well, I guess I have nothing left to do but deem myself the sole Game Tavern Magic the Gathering champion. :sneaky:
....j/k

[TheSlyMoogle]

Going to hell is more like it. :(

Oh well, I guess I have nothing left to do but deem myself the sole Game Tavern Magic the Gathering champion. :sneaky:
....j/k

Uh well I've already gotten you beat in Type 1 and I know what you're playing for Type II and I've beaten it with the angels many times. He he! I would be official MTG champ! HA!

[Vampyr]

Uh well I've already gotten you beat in Type 1 and I know what you're playing for Type II and I've beaten it with the angels many times. He he! I would be official MTG champ! HA!

Hey, buddy, who's running this tournament? :p

[TheSlyMoogle]

I dunno, but who's the better magic player?