Yo Null, more questions for you ¦¬Þ

[Rndm_Perfection]

http://www.ibuypower.com/confirm/configurator-gamer-special.htm


I might purchase it. The site looks very, very reliable, and they designed the pc specifically for gaming. However, I'd be going into the purchase blind. Can you help overview the specs for me and see what needs improvement, as well as what is not necessary?

I really don't care much about cost. Doesn't mean you should suggest I buy a super computer with unnecessary components, however. This computer would be my first born, basically. I could always upgrade it later.

Check it out for me, please, and lemme know whether you feel it's a decent deal or not. If you believe it looks legit and powerful for gaming purposes (yes, yes, the old FFXI story), then I'll consider purchasing it in about a month and a half.

[Jason1]

Hmmm...well it depends if your going to upgrade any of the things, or if your going to buy it as is. Because if you did upgrade any of the things via the drop down bars, it wont show up when we click the link. I got my computer from here just a few months ago, and ive been totally satisfied so far, if you have any questions or anything for me feel free to talk to me on AIM jasonman123 or email me stljason1@hotmail.com

[Rndm_Perfection]

I was wanting the computer as is. Based on what I know, the basic specs look good (Hard Drive, Video Card, System Memory, Processor Speed), but that's about the limit of my knowledge on the matter.

I just wonder if any of that will be completely outdated within the next couple of months, or if some of the brands are unreliable.

[Jonbo298]

Not too bad for what the current price is shown. If you have an extra $200 that you can spend, get the FX 5900. The special they show isn't too bad for the price.

And with what is shown, you'll be able to run FFXI pretty well. The processor and video card are the same that ominub has and he's able to get around 5000 on the benchmark. So with your setup, it shouldn't be too hard to at least get a 4000-5000 score.

[ominub]

yeah you will run FFXI fine but if you want to play future games the only thing you will have to upgrade is the ram and proccesor but if you just want it to play FFXI then it will work fine

[Null]

Actually, RAM and CPU will be fine to play games for quite a while.

Games dont jump up in requirments that much. its said HL2 min required will be 700 to 800mhz

of course to keep games running at thier utter most top level you have to upgrade a lot, but most generally dont run everything at top level even if they have the power. many things just arent noticable.

And games generally dont need more then 512 RAM, thats plenty and over enough for any game out. the extra game comes into play when closing the game are starting it up. but during it its not as big of a deal.

but yea. it looks good.

[ominub]

oops i ment ram and video card

[Rndm_Perfection]

but yea. it looks good.

Wonderful, thanks for the check-over and info.

And Jonbo, not sure about $200 more for greater-than-necessary video card. That's like another paycheck, heh.

[Jonbo298]

Wonderful, thanks for the check-over and info.

And Jonbo, not sure about $200 more for greater-than-necessary video card. That's like another paycheck, heh.

meh, just staying ahead of the curve....:sneaky:

[Null]

Wonderful, thanks for the check-over and info.

And Jonbo, not sure about $200 more for greater-than-necessary video card. That's like another paycheck, heh.


depends.... If the one they have in it uses the nv30 chip, i'd recommend the 5900 which uses the nv35. But not sure what chip the one it has uses.

not like a major thing tho, graphics cards are easily updated later down the road when needed.

[Rndm_Perfection]

depends.... If the one they have in it uses the nv30 chip, i'd recommend the 5900 which uses the nv35. But not sure what chip the one it has uses.

not like a major thing tho, graphics cards are easily updated later down the road when needed.

The graphics chip wouldn't slow down gameplay though, just make it not as appealing to look at?

[Null]

processor usually controls how well the game would run.

you can run a new game on a fast CPU with a old old geforce 1 card and it would run fast look ugly.

thing with the nv30 chips was that the cards were louder.

[Jason1]

I downloaded that FFXI benchmark thing just for kicks(I doubt I'll be getting the game) Anyways, I got 5255 on my Radeon 9500pro. Im running at 2.67ghz. I guess thats pretty good...it satisfies me at least.

[Crono]

I downloaded that FFXI benchmark thing just for kicks(I doubt I'll be getting the game) Anyways, I got 5255 on my Radeon 9500pro. Im running at 2.67ghz. I guess thats pretty good...it satisfies me at least.

You guess that's pretty good? 5255 is an outstanding score. Anything above 2000 can run FFXI smoothly. Also, when the game comes out for PC at the end of October, the clan will be taking in game screens (because you can), and we'll show it to GT. You'll want it then.

[ominub]

You guess that's pretty good? 5255 is an outstanding score. Anything above 2000 can run FFXI smoothly. Also, when the game comes out for PC at the end of October, the clan will be taking in game screens (because you can), and we'll show it to GT. You'll want it then.
well really
0-1500 means your pc is crap dont get the game
1500-3000 you can run the game on low settings
3000-4000 can run the game medium to high settings with little lag
4000+ you can run the game at max setting with no lag at all

jason you got like the same score as me mine was also it the 5200 not sure the exact numbers but just a little above 5200

[Jonbo298]

I downloaded that FFXI benchmark thing just for kicks(I doubt I'll be getting the game) Anyways, I got 5255 on my Radeon 9500pro. Im running at 2.67ghz. I guess thats pretty good...it satisfies me at least.

You and ominub are getting the same score but yet your computer is better then ominub's. Here is a comparison

Jason1
P4 2.66ghz
512Mb's DDRAM
80Gig HD
Saphire ATI Radeon 9500PRO

ominub
AMD 2500+XP Barton
768 Megs DDR PC2700 ram
40Gig HD
Geforce FX 5200

Now I can only think of one reason why you (Jason) might be getting a score that should be higher for what you have. You probably have not so good ram. Like PC-2100 ram from a generic company. But I could be wrong. And maybe something else caused it.....

[Jason1]

You and ominub are getting the same score but yet your computer is better then ominub's. Here is a comparison

Jason1
P4 2.66ghz
512Mb's DDRAM
80Gig HD
Saphire ATI Radeon 9500PRO

ominub
AMD 2500+XP Barton
768 Megs DDR PC2700 ram
40Gig HD
Geforce FX 5200

Now I can only think of one reason why you (Jason) might be getting a score that should be higher for what you have. You probably have not so good ram. Like PC-2100 ram from a generic company. But I could be wrong. And maybe something else caused it.....

How exactly is my system any better than ominub's? He has more RAM, and a better Graphics Card. Mine might be a little faster mhz wise, but he has me beat on everything else(HD size means nothing in this discussion.) And as for my RAM: [DDR400] 512MB PC3200 Memory.

[Jonbo298]

The HD thing was there just because you had it and I didn't feel like cutting it out because I was lazy. But still, your score should've been a little higher. The only other thing I can think of for you getting a 5200 is that you were running other programs in the background when you did the benchmark. But I still could be wrong. But I'll just stop thinking and move on:p

[Stonecutter]

Random, I'd check this site out too. It seems to be run much the same way (through a yahoo site) I put the machine I want to buy into both that and ibuypower and this site was about 150$ cheaper.

http://www.cyberpowersystem.com/custom/piv.htm

sorry, that's the link to the p4 systems, but I'm sure you'll find your way.

[Rndm_Perfection]

Random, I'd check this site out too. It seems to be run much the same way (through a yahoo site) I put the machine I want to buy into both that and ibuypower and this site was about 150$ cheaper.

http://www.cyberpowersystem.com/custom/piv.htm

sorry, that's the link to the p4 systems, but I'm sure you'll find your way.

Thanks for the link, but I found a computer with about the same specs (slightly better mother board and a few other things)... yet it was almost $70 more expensive. IBuyPower's deal is supposedly on a sale, so it's actually cheaper than Cyperpower's.

http://www.cyberpowersystem.com/highendsystem/gforce4_lightningREBATE.htm