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Crono
09-20-2003, 10:28 AM
You would not believe how pissed off I am right now. Last night, I got a new computer, a Dell Dimension 2400. So, after setting everything up in Windows XP, I click on Internet Explorer to go on the internet to download AIM on the new computer... and guess what? It didn't work! No sites were working. So I figured it would have been an ISP problem, so I call my ISP. After 40 minutes of being on the phone, the guy tried everything. The weird thing is that the connection is there, he was able to ping my computer and I was able to ping his, but the damn intenret explorer (or the other online applications like windows messenger) wouldn't work. So the guy at my ISP says that he has no idea, because he tried everything they could in order to fix this. So he tells me to call the Dell Support line. I call Dell, and the guy made me go through a bunch of procedures, and nothing worked! To make it worse, the guy was from India and I had a really hard time understanding him. But anyway, after about 50 min, the Dell guy says that there may be a corrupted file, so he tells me to take the Windows XP reinstallation disc and reinstall windows xp, to fix any files. This process took 35 minutes. And finally, after getting it reinstalled... it did not work once again. So I said **** it, I hung up, it was about 12:15am anyway, I was getting tired and didn't want to put up with this BS right now. So I called again this morning, and they have no damn clue as to what the problem is. My ISP configurations are fine, the network card that came with the computer is fine, and the connection is fine... yet when I try to get into Internet Explorer, nothing works. Does anyone have any clue what's wrong? I guess it doens't matter anyway, because I'm brining back the new Dell and I am either going to get a custom built PC or get my current one upgraded. I think I officially hate manufactured computers now :)

The PC was delivered at 9pm, I didn't get off the phone until like 12:15 am, which includes the time spent talking to my ISP, Dell, the time to wait for XP to reinstall, and also sitting tehre waiting for a Dell service rep to pick up the damn phone. So like I said I am just going to get a custom built PC, it'll be cheaper anyway.

Null
09-20-2003, 10:36 AM
what kind of connection you have? Sounds like the IP was never configured.

if you have broadband. reset the router (unplug it, then plug it back in) and might want to try that with your computer off.

Crono
09-20-2003, 10:42 AM
what kind of connection you have? Sounds like the IP was never configured.

if you have broadband. reset the router (unplug it, then plug it back in) and might want to try that with your computer off.

I have cable. I do not have a router, and, my modem was unplugged and replugged three times, because my ISP had to reset the modem because it can only recognize one connection at a time, so we had to switch it from my old pc to the dell, and this morning we switched it back from the dell onto my old now, so I was able to use the internet again.

Null
09-20-2003, 10:44 AM
that is a router...

Crono
09-20-2003, 10:45 AM
that is a router...

Well, whatever it's technical name is, it was already unplugged and plugged back in again.

Null
09-20-2003, 10:47 AM
Does windows update work?

And your on the main account right? you didnt make a 2nd user acount on there and are on that?

Crono
09-20-2003, 10:50 AM
Does windows update work?

And your on the main account right? you didnt make a 2nd user acount on there and are on that?

What's windows update?

And yes, I was on the main account. I made two accounts, and I've been using the main one.

Null
09-20-2003, 10:54 AM
goto start, and All programs. at the top theres the windows update.

if it lets you download anything. theres a good chance it is something needed updating.

If not, make sure the account your using. is setup as a Admin account. or something close to it. make sure it doesnt have like parental controls on it.

Crono
09-20-2003, 11:01 AM
goto start, and All programs. at the top theres the windows update.

if it lets you download anything. theres a good chance it is something needed updating.

If not, make sure the account your using. is setup as a Admin account. or something close to it. make sure it doesnt have like parental controls on it.

Well, my other PC's internet is disconnected now, because my ISP had to transfer it, but I will go in and see about the admin account. I'm going to run the FFXI benchmark program on the Dell, if I get good results then I am just going to call the store from where I bought it from and see what they can do. Thanks though.

Crono
09-20-2003, 12:02 PM
It works now. The place I brought it from brought me a new tower, and the internet is fine now.

Jason1
09-20-2003, 12:02 PM
www.ibuypower.com

for all your custom built computing needs =-D

Null
09-20-2003, 12:07 PM
It works now. The place I brought it from brought me a new tower, and the internet is fine now.


which one is this? specs?

Crono
09-20-2003, 12:11 PM
which one is this? specs?

It's a Dell Dimension 2400. I don't know the full specs, but it has a 40GB hard drive, 256 MB RAM (dont know which kind), a 2.4 ghz processor.

I don't know if I am going to keep it yet. The place I got it from is like a rental place, you rent it until you own, so I can bring it back any time. The stuff you get though is brand new, not used or anything. I am going to try it out for a while, see if I like it. If not I'll go with a Custom PC.

Ace195
09-20-2003, 12:51 PM
I take it thats your computer store lol. j/k
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Yeah chrono You should have just built the computer I recomended because It would be soo much better.//

Crono
09-20-2003, 02:36 PM
Ah, ****!

The Dell Dimension 2400 doesn't have AGP slots. But the guy at the store told me it did. @(*&#*

Looks like I'll be returning this afterall.

Null
09-20-2003, 02:51 PM
Ah, ****!

The Dell Dimension 2400 doesn't have AGP slots. But the guy at the store told me it did. @(*&#*

Looks like I'll be returning this afterall.


well it would only have 1 agp slot. theres no big slot above all the pci ones?

Crono
09-20-2003, 02:54 PM
well it would only have 1 agp slot. theres no big slot above all the pci ones?

Well to be honest, I didn't look inside, but I was just at a website that gave the Dimension 2400 a review, and they said:
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Cheaper budget PCs can be had elsewhere, but Dell’s Dimension 2400 offers a solid feature set and a strong warranty, though its performance is merely adequate.

The good: Wide-ranging support and upgrade options; smooth DVD playback and sound; great multimedia keyboard.

The bad: No AGP slot for dedicated graphics card.

By Asa Somers, July 8, 2003

Dell has updated its budget PC line with the arrival of the Dimension 2400. Slightly faster Pentium 4 processors and a slightly improved Intel chipset mean--you guessed it--slightly improved performance over that of its predecessor, the Dimension 2350. Our 2400 test system had a 2.4GHz Pentium processor, 333MHz of DDR memory, dual optical drives, and a 17-inch CRT--features that straddle the line between budget and midrange. Of course, at $968, the price of our test system is on that same border, though you can scale back by opting for a Celeron processor and a single optical drive, for example. With integrated graphics and no AGP slot for upgrading, you shouldn’t nurture any dreams of turning the 2400 into a multimedia powerhouse. The system offers acceptable application performance, however, for price-wary consumers, such as students, small-business owners, and home-office dwellers.

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http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/Dell_Dimension_2400/4505-3119_16-30422565.html



It will be cheaper for me to build a PC anyway. Well, someone else will be doing it for me, but overall it will be much cheaper.

Null
09-20-2003, 03:15 PM
integrated graphics. i see. maybe it doesnt have one.

Just build your own. its more fun anyway and you know exactly what each part can do cuz you have instuction booklets on everything you buy for it.

Crono
09-20-2003, 03:18 PM
integrated graphics. i see. maybe it doesnt have one.

Just build your own. its more fun anyway and you know exactly what each part can do cuz you have instuction booklets on everything you buy for it.

Yeah. It's much cheaper anyway. I can quadrouple the RAM in my older PC for only 60$. 256 MB DDR costs 59.99

I am kind of low budget for a video card, but I have two options right now:
ATI Radeon 9200 - 149.99
Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB DDR - 129.99

Which of those two would you recommend?

And I can get a Western Digital 7200 RPM 40GB Hard Drive for 159.99..

Then all I need is a motherboard, a processor, a new fan, and maybe a new sound card. I can use my old case, and I already have a cdrw and a cdr.

Null
09-20-2003, 04:00 PM
but isnt the RAM in your older PC SD ram? i believe it would max out at 512 if thats the case.

not sure about the vid card. depends if the FX uses the nv30 or nv35 chip

and bro... 40gig HD for 159? OUCH!
i just recently picked up a 120gig Western Digital 7200 RPM hard drive for $130

and i think i seen them for cheaper.

I mean, i know thoes are canadian prices your showing, but still, seems WAY too high.

Crono
09-20-2003, 04:15 PM
but isnt the RAM in your older PC SD ram? i believe it would max out at 512 if thats the case.

not sure about the vid card. depends if the FX uses the nv30 or nv35 chip

and bro... 40gig HD for 159? OUCH!
i just recently picked up a 120gig Western Digital 7200 RPM hard drive for $130

and i think i seen them for cheaper.

I mean, i know thoes are canadian prices your showing, but still, seems WAY too high.

Well what I meant was, that for 60$, I can get 4x the RAM. Everything in my old pc will be taken out and replaced (except for the power supply and fan).

And how do I know what chip the card uses? Will it say on the box or something? And which one is better? nv35?

And I also think I saw cheaper hard drives, I'll look around, because like you said, thats expensive for only 40GB.

DarkMaster
09-20-2003, 05:17 PM
I picked up a new 60GB 7200 RPM hard drive today for $79.99 at futureshop. While I was there, I also helped myself to a Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB DDR for 129.99.

Twas a good day indeed. Unfortunately the RAM was no longer on sale, but it should be on sale again by next weekend. Then I pick up my motherboard and new P4 processor, and my upgrade shall be complete.

Total cost with tax for all my upgrading sh*t - $481.00 CAD

Oh, and I also managed to get a router on sale for $20 (down from $100). I can taste that Final Fantasy XI now...

Stonecutter
09-20-2003, 06:01 PM
www.ibuypower.com

for all your custom built computing needs =-D
http://www.cyberpowersystem.com/custom/piv.htm

Is better.

Crono
09-20-2003, 07:07 PM
I picked up a new 60GB 7200 RPM hard drive today for $79.99 at futureshop.

FS's stupid website has it listed as like 179.99, bastards. At leats I know I can get a 60 GB for a cheap price.

GameMaster
09-20-2003, 10:03 PM
www.apple.com

Internet up and running in 10 minutes or less.

Null
09-21-2003, 12:32 PM
www.apple.com

Internet up and running in 10 minutes or less.

Wallet empty in 10 seconds or less. ;)

Ace195
09-21-2003, 04:30 PM
but isnt the RAM in your older PC SD ram? i believe it would max out at 512 if thats the case.

not sure about the vid card. depends if the FX uses the nv30 or nv35 chip

and bro... 40gig HD for 159? OUCH!
i just recently picked up a 120gig Western Digital 7200 RPM hard drive for $130

and i think i seen them for cheaper.

I mean, i know thoes are canadian prices your showing, but still, seems WAY too high.
Geeze I got a SATA HD from WD for 122 for 80 gigs.. Serial ATA is uber fast :)

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I agree that is really high for being in canadian prices. Your getting ripped there.