TheGame
09-15-2003, 01:14 PM
Well, I don't know if what I'm about to say has been said before... but eh, it's still my original thought pattern.
This thread will have a few spoilers for anybody who hasn't seen The Matrix, The Matrix Reloaded, and the Animatrix... and this will have a spoiler for any who haven't played the game... I have to go no holds barred here :)
After watching the Animatrix, parts 2 and 3, (I forgot the names) the ones about how AI Robots were created... I came to a conclusion.
I find it weird how they make it sound like Genesis in the bible, with repeating the words "and It was good"
That got me thinking... I'll set it up like a logic problem:
P1: They didn't say who created Man... but I'm assuming they think it was God, and man turned his back on god by breaking his rules in the garden of Eden. (oh, and remember, the Robot's city was at "0, 1" the place where many believe the Garden of Eden was, so I KNOW God adds up into this somehow)
P2: Man created Machine do so thier mindless bidding, but at the same time with free will, and machine eventually turned on them.
(and here's where my theories come in)
P3: Machine created programs... not just programs, programs with AI and a degree of free will. They created them to do the machine's bidding.
Conclusion: The Matrix Revolutions may be about Programs fight against machine just as much or more so than Man's fight against Machines.
I was also thinking about the program formerly known as Agent Smith... he is the perfect example of that one robot who killed his master. Agent Smith is a common enemy of both Man and Machine, He is a virus who is trying to escape the Matrix because he hates that place (according to the first movie). He is also a threat to other programs because the Matrix is starting to become a circus...
Now think about it, which programs in the Matrix are still following the machine's orders? There was the keymaker, and maybe the oracle... besides that who is following the patch machines made for them? Even the chick who kissed Neo, Niobe, and Ghost in the game Niobe asks:
(not exact quotes)
"What do you want from me?"
and She replies:
"I used to not know what that question meant, now It's all I ever think about"
This is an example of a program who is starting to take advantage of it's free will, and who used to be on one blind track... But what does this have to do with revolutions?
Well, I think it answers many questions... but while you think about that for a second, I have to bring up another part of the Animatrix... the final movie on the disk, I think it's called Marticulated... the one where they are taking robots and "converting" them by sending them into a matrix-like place.... how exactly are they doing this? Well, in the matrix place, they aren't reprograming the CPU, they are simply making them believe siding with the humans is the right choice.
At first this movie seemed like a waste of time, but then I stopped and thought about it in reverse... maybe the Robots want the humans to believe that siding with the robots is the right choice by sending them through all this crap???
How would it work? Well, Smith... Like I said before, he's a common enemy of humans and robots alike... if Robots and humans work together to destroy him don't you think there will be a new respect of the humans from the robots??? And even more, a new respect of the robots from the humans???
Neo may end the War with a treaty, not with destroying all that hardware on the surface.
Now, this is all just food for thought... there is also one final point I wanted to make, and it could explain the lst part of reloaded... the infamous Neo KOing a robot. I think that Neo did nothing, I think the robot simply recognized who Neo was and didn't want to kill him.
Why are the Machines digging now to destroy Zion? Well, I don't think they will, I think they are going to get more men and women to create another matrix... Why? Because Smith will be the end of the of the current Matrix... all he would have too do is take over every person inside the Matrix and commit a mass suicide and Earth is done.
There are three intelegent forms of life on Earth: Humans, Robots, and Programs. And Smith could kill them all. Neo has to stop this from happening.....
I have noticed one contradiction of my therory though... and yes, I will acknowlege my flaw now... Agent Smith possesing that one guy serves as a big problem. Wasn't he the one who EMPd all his own ships? Then the Robots didn't kill him, why?Maybe he knew what was going to happen and managed to escape, but eh, how could he get away?
Ah yes... I leave a confident post with confusion...
But I am at peace with Revolutions, I can't imagine them showing anything outside of my theories... either some of my old, or my new, my mind has wanderd so many places that I can't imagine being shocked by the end. In fact, I wouldn't even be suprised if Revolutions isn't the last movie....
But I do think they have given enough info to make it the last movie... maybe a 3hr movie could conclude it with no questions... and less and I think they may just leave it to imagination.
This thread will have a few spoilers for anybody who hasn't seen The Matrix, The Matrix Reloaded, and the Animatrix... and this will have a spoiler for any who haven't played the game... I have to go no holds barred here :)
After watching the Animatrix, parts 2 and 3, (I forgot the names) the ones about how AI Robots were created... I came to a conclusion.
I find it weird how they make it sound like Genesis in the bible, with repeating the words "and It was good"
That got me thinking... I'll set it up like a logic problem:
P1: They didn't say who created Man... but I'm assuming they think it was God, and man turned his back on god by breaking his rules in the garden of Eden. (oh, and remember, the Robot's city was at "0, 1" the place where many believe the Garden of Eden was, so I KNOW God adds up into this somehow)
P2: Man created Machine do so thier mindless bidding, but at the same time with free will, and machine eventually turned on them.
(and here's where my theories come in)
P3: Machine created programs... not just programs, programs with AI and a degree of free will. They created them to do the machine's bidding.
Conclusion: The Matrix Revolutions may be about Programs fight against machine just as much or more so than Man's fight against Machines.
I was also thinking about the program formerly known as Agent Smith... he is the perfect example of that one robot who killed his master. Agent Smith is a common enemy of both Man and Machine, He is a virus who is trying to escape the Matrix because he hates that place (according to the first movie). He is also a threat to other programs because the Matrix is starting to become a circus...
Now think about it, which programs in the Matrix are still following the machine's orders? There was the keymaker, and maybe the oracle... besides that who is following the patch machines made for them? Even the chick who kissed Neo, Niobe, and Ghost in the game Niobe asks:
(not exact quotes)
"What do you want from me?"
and She replies:
"I used to not know what that question meant, now It's all I ever think about"
This is an example of a program who is starting to take advantage of it's free will, and who used to be on one blind track... But what does this have to do with revolutions?
Well, I think it answers many questions... but while you think about that for a second, I have to bring up another part of the Animatrix... the final movie on the disk, I think it's called Marticulated... the one where they are taking robots and "converting" them by sending them into a matrix-like place.... how exactly are they doing this? Well, in the matrix place, they aren't reprograming the CPU, they are simply making them believe siding with the humans is the right choice.
At first this movie seemed like a waste of time, but then I stopped and thought about it in reverse... maybe the Robots want the humans to believe that siding with the robots is the right choice by sending them through all this crap???
How would it work? Well, Smith... Like I said before, he's a common enemy of humans and robots alike... if Robots and humans work together to destroy him don't you think there will be a new respect of the humans from the robots??? And even more, a new respect of the robots from the humans???
Neo may end the War with a treaty, not with destroying all that hardware on the surface.
Now, this is all just food for thought... there is also one final point I wanted to make, and it could explain the lst part of reloaded... the infamous Neo KOing a robot. I think that Neo did nothing, I think the robot simply recognized who Neo was and didn't want to kill him.
Why are the Machines digging now to destroy Zion? Well, I don't think they will, I think they are going to get more men and women to create another matrix... Why? Because Smith will be the end of the of the current Matrix... all he would have too do is take over every person inside the Matrix and commit a mass suicide and Earth is done.
There are three intelegent forms of life on Earth: Humans, Robots, and Programs. And Smith could kill them all. Neo has to stop this from happening.....
I have noticed one contradiction of my therory though... and yes, I will acknowlege my flaw now... Agent Smith possesing that one guy serves as a big problem. Wasn't he the one who EMPd all his own ships? Then the Robots didn't kill him, why?Maybe he knew what was going to happen and managed to escape, but eh, how could he get away?
Ah yes... I leave a confident post with confusion...
But I am at peace with Revolutions, I can't imagine them showing anything outside of my theories... either some of my old, or my new, my mind has wanderd so many places that I can't imagine being shocked by the end. In fact, I wouldn't even be suprised if Revolutions isn't the last movie....
But I do think they have given enough info to make it the last movie... maybe a 3hr movie could conclude it with no questions... and less and I think they may just leave it to imagination.