View Full Version : RIAA sueing 12 year old girl.
heh.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,96797,00.html
yup. this makes the RIAA look much better.
altho i dont think anything will come of it, because she's underage and all. Possibly might sue the parrents instead.
which makes me wonder now. how the hell did they get her name? the ISP would be under her parents name anyway. :hmm:
ah well.
Happydude
09-09-2003, 05:32 PM
maybe she registered as a user under her name on kazaa or something.
anyway, the RIAA are stupid, instead of closing off kazaa and other file sharing programs and FTPs and a sh*t load more stuff...they aim for the individuals who are just using the programs and have no idea that it's even ilegal.
the RIAA will never win because one way or another music will always be stolen no matter what, it could even be someone buying a CD and burning it for 10 of his friends which burn it for 10 of their friends and so on. same with games, but most modern games have copy protection no the CD so it can't be burnt, although programs exist to crack the CDs. all i'm saying is that the RIAA doesn't see the big picture: it can not stop music from being copied/downloaded or anything else. you can even get music from your TV...just record a clip on DVD and your done...more ilegal music.
ohh well...i hardly download any music anymore anyways, i got all i need and dont have time to listen to even that. so i could care less.
actually they cant shut down a lot of thoes programs. that is the reason why they are now going after individuals.
They already lost the battle over thoes programs. this is thier plan B
bobcat
09-09-2003, 06:16 PM
Did anybody read this?
"I thought it was OK to download music because my mom paid a service fee for it. Out of all people, why did they pick me?"
To me that doesn't sound like a 12 year old girl. It sounds like a grown man pretending to make the public believe it's a 12 year old girl.
:unsure:
well it says the media showed up at thier house. so i would assume there is a little girl.
but it says they paid like $30 for thier kazaa. never seen that scam before. if its true they paid that. kinda sucks for them cuz they were tricked.
Vampyr
09-09-2003, 06:39 PM
Yeah, this is really stupid.
And I think a 12 year old girl would say something like that. My brother is 12, and he would say something like that, and hes not even smart.
I really dont think the RIAA should even be able to get peoples names from their ISP. Thats a little invading.
Classic Rocker
09-09-2003, 06:56 PM
Screw the RIAA. I am boycotting purchasing CD's and other mediums supported by the company.
Ha..if the majority of P2P users boycott RIAA goods,,,then they will have a real reason to cry about there sales!
So boycott the RIAA
Jonbo298
09-09-2003, 07:28 PM
Yeah, I can't understand either how or why they paid $30 for it. Either they are trying to horribly lie their way out of the lawsuit or they got scammed.
But oh well, people need to figure out that KaZaa Lite is the one to use. At least it can block ip ranges of companies who search for share'rs and can keep your ip address from being shown.
TheSlyMoogle
09-09-2003, 07:30 PM
well it says the media showed up at thier house. so i would assume there is a little girl.
but it says they paid like $30 for thier kazaa. never seen that scam before. if its true they paid that. kinda sucks for them cuz they were tricked.
Yeah you can buy some kaaza program for 30. It's supposed to be really cool. I'm not really sure.
Jason1
09-09-2003, 07:49 PM
The RIAA needs to shove a stick up thier ass and go jump off a cliff.
Happydude
09-09-2003, 09:10 PM
The RIAA needs to shove a stick up thier ass and go jump off a cliff.
:lol:
thats nice!
GameMaster
09-09-2003, 09:46 PM
13 people have been hit by the RIAA in my area.
Anyone near any of you guys been hit yet?
Happydude
09-09-2003, 09:50 PM
not that i know of...but im in canada, aybe they're not goin for us canadias :)
And now its settled.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,96890,00.html
$2000, $2 per song.
Which im not sure about, I think they shoulda talked to thier lawyer first, because im still not sure about this sueing a 12 year old thing and if they really coulda won it.
Happydude
09-10-2003, 01:40 PM
....the vorizon president and the other guy are funny :)
ZebraRampage
09-10-2003, 03:25 PM
When the girl downloaded the songs, did she even know that they were illegal?
honestly a 12 year old girl isnt going to know the law that well. she might of known they were wrong. but then again she might of just thought it was the internet.
From the sounds of it, they got scammed into paying for the free file sharing program and thought since they paid it was a legal version. like some of the pay sites. (itunes for example)
Ace195
09-10-2003, 04:26 PM
Well some 12 year olds have quite a grasp on the law and legal system. My little brother knows better than to download music. But still they shouldn't be able to sue for $2 a song. Thats outrageous. I mean if the cd only contained 10 songs it would still be like $14 - $18 dollars. I mean they should break it down to like every ten songs and rate it like that.
im not saying she did or didnt. but most, kids around that age dont fully grasp the legal concept in its intirety.
And they didnt sue for $2 a song. That was a settlement. From what i read they're sueing for a LOT more then that per song. i read in the thousands dollar range.
Jonbo298
09-10-2003, 08:24 PM
I guess the RIAA wanted to try to keep them from looking to harsh on the wee ones. But what respect they have isn't there:D
Happydude
09-11-2003, 12:03 PM
Well some 12 year olds have quite a grasp on the law and legal system. My little brother knows better than to download music. But still they shouldn't be able to sue for $2 a song. Thats outrageous. I mean if the cd only contained 10 songs it would still be like $14 - $18 dollars. I mean they should break it down to like every ten songs and rate it like that.
the settlement was $2,000, i doubt the girl had 1000 songs :unsure: so it's more then $2 per song.
Ace195
09-11-2003, 12:47 PM
Hmm... That be a hella lot of money for just downloading music. When will they ever give up ?
The Germanator
09-11-2003, 02:00 PM
The RIAA sues little girls for $2 a song when they price 30 cent CDs for 60 times that amount. Very noble.
the settlement was $2,000, i doubt the girl had 1000 songs :unsure: so it's more then $2 per song.
yes, she (or actuall more like the whole family) had 1000 songs.
All 261 people the RIAA sued had over 1000 songs for others to download from them.
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/articles/auto/09122003k.php
Music firms have paid the entire fine for the 12 year old girl.
it sounds like many people have chipped in and helped pay it for them.
Thats nice. :)
The Germanator
09-14-2003, 02:49 PM
That's cool...I know a similar thing happened earlier when a college student was sued by the RIAA for $12,000 and friendly people ended up giving him all the money back.
Ace195
09-14-2003, 10:53 PM
The musicians piss me off. They or should I say one musician is going to make a song on the mentality of the file sharers.
In a new song, "Something for Nothing," Mr. Wainwright makes fun of the mentality of file sharers, singing: "It's O.K. to steal, cuz it's so nice to share."
They make me sick.
The musicians piss me off. They or should I say one musician is going to make a song on the mentality of the file sharers.
In a new song, "Something for Nothing," Mr. Wainwright makes fun of the mentality of file sharers, singing: "It's O.K. to steal, cuz it's so nice to share."
They make me sick.
its just to get attention.
Actually most Artists dont even care. the musicians themselves make VERY LITTLE off cd sales.
http://www.bidclix.net/ads/79.html?cb=0.20427657524123788&prefurl=http://media.fastclick.net/w/click.here?cid=10132&mid=23065&sid=2296&m=3&c=6745&forced_click=
Recording artists have watched their record royalties erode over the past few years ("My Van Halen royalties are history," said vocalist Sammy Hagar), but, in fact, few musicians earn the bulk of their income from record sales.
"Bruce Springsteen probably earned more in 10 nights at Meadowlands last month than in his entire recording career," said rocker Huey Lewis.
The RIAA did not initiate these lawsuits to defend artists' rights, the musicians say, but to protect corporate profits.
"For the artists, my ass," said Draiman (of Disturbed). "I didn't ask them to protect me, and I don't want their protection."
and many more quotes.
Further more most of the music artists themselves dont like what the RIAA is doing. (they may not believe in filesharing) but they surly dont like the RIAA going around and sueing THIER fans. thats not good for any musician if thier fans get sued.
There was a nice little thing on CNN about it the other night, even CNN says the RIAA wont win, and eventually they will have to use filesharing to help them, instead of fighting it.
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