FFXI Thread #2

[TheGame]

OK... the other thread is too sloppy and jumping around too many subjects... This thread only has one point... Clearly post which nation you will be from, what race you want to be, which job(s) you want to do, and which version of the game you are going to get. Also, for people who aren't sure if you are getting the game or not, still post, but just say you are unsure. If you don't know the answers to these questions, just simply say you don't know.

That is the main subject... and the secondary subject is a discussion on how/if we are going to form a party (guild?) in the game. DO we really want to be split up and have different divisions? How many outsiders will we allow? Do we want to make this a big thing where tons of people allign and we have to make a seperate website, or a small thing where it's an exclusive Gamtavern members... and maybe some chicks we pick up ;)

Here is my reply to subject #1:

-Nation: Whichever harbors the most GT members (so Windurst for now)
-Race: Hume
-Job(s): Red Mage (yes, different from my older plans)
-Game Version: Ps2
-Chances of getting game: Very Likely, but not set in stone

(follow that set-up)

As for the second subject, there is a poll... just answer these questions

1. Should we be split up into three divisions? (-EDIT-)
2. Why or Why not?
3. Where should the Group be set up?
4. Why should we go there? (please give logical reasons)
5. Should this group be GT Members exclusive, or have other players from online?
6a. (if you said GT only) Why?
6b. (if you want others) Why... and how big are you thinking about making this group?

After answering this crap... then you can make all your comments... maybe nothing you haven't already discussed but eh ;)

[Crono]

Nation: Republic Of Bastok
Race: Hume
Jobs: Well I plan to do Warrior, then Black Mage. After that I want to move on to Dark Knight, Dragoon, and possibly Samurai.
Game Version: PC
Chances Of Getting Game: 99.9%. I am getting 100 dollars on friday, and it will be saved for 2 months for this game. I am noy buying anything else in the mean time (because I won't have any money besides what I'm saving), unless I get a job. Also, I am getting it on release (October 29th).

Second Topic:

1. We should be split up into three divisions, one for each country. This way, we won't have to fight to pick which nation should be the "host", because we can be from wherever we want, and still be part of the clan.

2. Why? Because, like I said, we won't have to fight over which country is the best or which we should all be from in order to be from the clan.

3. I don't care which country the actual main group (if that's what you are referring to) should be set up. We can access any country we want, so it doesn't really matter.

4. Well... I want to be from Bastok because the style of that country suits me. Bastok is an industrial nation and the foundation of technology in Vana'diel. But like I said, I don't care either way. If everyone else at GT goes to San'doria, that's fine with me.

5. At first it should be GT only. After we build ourselves and become stronger, then we can expand and allow non-Gters to join. Of course, there should be a catch for them: They must post regularly at GT or they get kicked out of the guild! =-D

6a. It should be GT-only at first because if too many people join at the beginning, things can get messy. We must organize ourselves first before expanding.

6b. The bigger we become, the better we are. It could help the actual forums with that little catch I gave earlier, which is good.



Also, here's another question: What do you plan on naming your character? I haven't really decided yet, but I am thinking of something completely original. We'll probably be seeing a lot of people named "Cloud<insert number here>" and whatever else that is Squaresoft related... so I'd like my name to be different.

EDIT: Yet another question: Who plans on paying the extra 1.00US per month fee for the Tetra game? I am. We could have Tetra tournaments much like the chess ones we've been having lately.

[TheGame]

1. Should we be split up into three divisions?

Yes...

2. Why or Why not?

Why? Well, before we meet in the game it will give us all time to make a name for ourselves in each community. Also, we will be able to learn the ins and outs of each place and learn any and all secrets the game has to offer... I doubt very many guilds will have all three areas covered, giving us an advantage. Hopfully 6 guys sign on and there are two from each country... if any place has less than 2 I will ditch the most populated place and join whoever is by themself.

3. Where should the Group be set up?

If we were not to split up, I'd say we join the tarutarus

4. Why should we go there? (please give logical reasons)

Well, I prefer the game be a challengeI feel that great warriors will stand out in Windurst more so than any other place.

5. Should this group be GT Members exclusive, or have other players from online?

Other players from online

6b. (if you want others) Why... and how big are you thinking about making this group?

Well, I don't want it to get out of hand big, but big enough. I would like to see members of our guild span every race (male and female) and job type.

And on to Crono's questions:
What do you plan on naming your character?

I have a many ideas... but they may all be taken. But I think I may just take TheGame, or TheGameGT.

Who plans on paying the extra 1.00US per month fee for the Tetra game?

Well, I'm getting that Sony deal that squashes all online fees for Ps2 online games, I think it's $19.99 per month... Hopfully Tetra is included in the package.

[Hero2]

1. Should we be split up into three divisions?

why not

2. Why or Why not?

competion is healthy and that will allow me to kill dyflon.j/k

3. Where should the Group be set up?

Im going to be in the mining town.

4. Why should we go there? (please give logical reasons)

im going there because its the strongest region(by strongest i mean physical strength).

5. Should this group be GT Members exclusive, or have other players from online?

let anybody join.

6b. (if you want others) Why... and how big are you thinking about making this group?

because if you can find a diverce group of people your group will be god
and if we are missing a peice of the puzzle and we dont allow outside help then we will lose and a good size party but a huge clan.

I think ill be a
race: galka
jobs: death knight then maby some support magic.


I might pay the 1.00 for the card game it was ok in ff8,
as long as you had good cards.


*edit* oh and my name Hero2 I dont change it much
and a 100 percent chance of getting it unless I die
then a 99 percent chance

[Dylflon]

competion is healthy and that will allow me to kill dyflon.j/k

Do you dislike me for yelling at you for your shoddy grammar?

[Hero2]

Do you dislike me for yelling at you for your shoddy grammar?
nO aNd i dnt now what u'r talkn bout my gramers fine.!

And no just tough love.. just not any sexual way

[Happydude]

-Nation: not sure yet...
-Race: Hume/Elvin
-Job(s): Black Mage/Warroir/Paladin (dark or light)/Ranger
-Game Version: PC
-Chances of getting game: 99.99999999999999% sure




1. Should we be split up into three divisions?
- Yes
2. Why or Why not?
- It would make us better knon across the world
3. Where should the Group be set up?
- Main HQ should be set up where most GTers are...
4. Why should we go there? (please give logical reasons)
- Gotta visit HQ sometime...
5. Should this group be GT Members exclusive, or have other players from online?
- Like Chrono said...at first it should be GT exclusive then after we're more or less orginized, we can start recruiting others.
6a. (if you said GT only) Why?
6b. (if you want others) Why... and how big are you thinking about making this group?
- To answer both questions, basicaly GT exclusive first becaue we all know each other here and it would be easier to orginize, cause we could open a knew forum thingy for FFXI and get everything together in there...and afterwards, we should get other people just to make the guild grow.

[Rndm_Perfection]

-Nation: Probably... Bastok
-Race: Leaning Elvaan
-Job(s): Woah, no clue yet, soldier!
-Game Version: PS2
-Chances of getting game: 78.26% Dare me to show you my calculations!... But I won't




1. Should we be split up into three divisions?

Definately...


2. Why or Why not?

More options for each of us, wider range in the world, greater opportunities to find outstanding recruitables, and a great way to possible monopolize the system! Woooooh.


3. Where should the Group be set up?

The least popular.


4. Why should we go there? (please give logical reasons)

Easier to get our name heard there if we do well... less competition, and fewer people to put up with. Though, I could be completely wrong. Who cares though..


5. Should this group be GT Members exclusive, or have other players from online?

GT exclusive until we get a name for ourself, and then we'll make recruits... REAL recruit,s, not those stupid pity recruits just so that our numbers get big.


6b. (if you want others) Why... and how big are you thinking about making this group?

Big, real big... where else would be the fun?


What do you plan on naming your character?

If I go a Paladin sort of road, I'll be "Lawfer". If I go evil powerhouse, I'll try to nab "Luca Blight". If I want to be the "big guy", I'll pick "Hrothgar"... if I choose to be a mage, I'll go either "Mazus" or "Lezard Valeth". If I go thief, I'll have to think hard about the name... and if I go Samurai, I'll be "Suo". Aaand finally, if all else fails, I can be Random Perfection. In other words, I haven't a clue of what I want to do, therefor I haven't a clue as to what I'll call myself.

[DarkMaster]

-Nation: The Noble Kingdom of San d'Oria
-Race: Hume
-Job(s): Warrior to begin with
-Game Version: PC
-Chances of getting game: 100%

1. Should we be split up into three divisions? It should be two divisions. Those from San d'Oria, and then the rest. ;) J/K Yeah it should be three.

3. Where should the Group be set up?Anywhere, a group need not stay in one place.

5. Should this group be GT Members exclusive, or have other players from online?Doesn't matter to me all.

Also, if we are in three divisons (from each country) how are we gonna decide which nation will own the land we conquest? (San d'Oria, Bastok, or Windurst).

[DarkMaster]

Sorry for the double post. For those who couldn't see the sweet ass pics of the nations (these are only main areas of each nation, mind you, their entirety is much larger) you may view them below by clicking the links.

You have to copy and paste the links into your browser.

San d'Oria http://www.rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff11/screens/sand_oria.jpg
San d'Oria Emblem http://www.rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff11/art/sand_oria_symbol.jpg

Bastok http://www.rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff11/screens/bastok.jpg
Bastok Emblem http://www.rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff11/art/bastok_symbol.jpg

Windurst http://www.rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff11/screens/windurst.jpg
Windurst Emblem http://www.rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff11/art/windurst_symbol.jpg

[Crono]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this... but we should have a Final Fantasy XI forum when it is close to being released, or when it's released. That way we can have a specific place to talk about the game and post our stats and have "status checks" similar to what the PSO forum did. Actually, it should be a private usergroup, so only people who have the game can post there, or something...

[Happydude]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this... but we should have a Final Fantasy XI forum when it is close to being released, or when it's released. That way we can have a specific place to talk about the game and post our stats and have "status checks" similar to what the PSO forum did. Actually, it should be a private usergroup, so only people who have the game can post there, or something...
i mentioned that....and i agree about the usergroup thingy...so we don't have an exess of posts about nothing...

[Rndm_Perfection]

I nominate TheGame to ask... err DEMAND the user group *nods*

[TheGame]

I nominate TheGame to ask... err DEMAND the user group *nods*

no prob

*storms into Bond's office*

[Null]

*most surprised and pleased many are getting PC version*

*mission to promote pc gaming working.......must get GT Members to buy more PC games...*

[Crono]

*most surprised and pleased many are getting PC version*

*mission to promote pc gaming working.......must get GT Members to buy more PC games...*

I probably will... seeing as now I will have a PC that can actually play games. I am getting a new PC in September. I am thinking Warcraft 3, NHL 2004, and maybe Battlefield 1942...

[Hero2]

*most surprised and pleased many are getting PC version*

*mission to promote pc gaming working.......must get GT Members to buy more PC games...*
im only getting the pc version because it comes out earlier then the playstation

*edit* my computer sux thats why i would rather get it for Playstation.
If i had a better computer I would rather get it for pc

[ominub]

*most surprised and pleased many are getting PC version*

*mission to promote pc gaming working.......must get GT Members to buy more PC games...*

im going for pc so i can play it soon and not have to wait like 6 more months and my pc will handle it fine so yeah pc it is

[TheGame]

For me it's mostly a matter of getting the game earlier... if I had a PC that could run it, I would buy it based 100% off of it's release date, not my bias for PC. if the Ps2 version was out 2-3 months earlier, it probably would change some minds.

PC guys got thier Halo... took a long ass time, but eh. PCers can play Halo while I play Halo 2 ;)

[Null]

PC guys got thier Halo... took a long ass time, but eh. PCers can play Halo while I play Halo 2 ;)

True true, But PC guys have so many FPS games, that honestly halo holds nothing new to them. But for thoes that are really looking foward to it, can sleep easy knowing thier multiplayer still pwns Console Halo2's multi. ;)

[Crono]

Ok I just found out something about the World Passes:

In order to switch servers, you MUST create a new character, NOTHING can be transferred to a new server, because the world pass codes are entered on the character select screen, and can not be usedduring the game. There are 30 servers, which will make it hard to be placed on the same ones. But... I'm not sure how exactly Square places people on servers (well, I know its random), but I think the people who buy the game on release are more likely to be placed on the same servers, because I don't think they would give a server with very little people... that's just my theory though. We'll have to wait and see.

You can only hand out 1 World Pass code to your friends a week. If Dylflon wants to give everyone world passes, it would take him like 2 months. Giving 1 pass to each person a week. :\

Which means... getting the clan on one server will be extremely difficult. And I know that I probably will not want to delete my character just to be on the same server. But I came up with a sequence that would work:

- Dylflon buys 1 world pass, gives it to Crono, Crono makes his character and enters in the code.
- Crono comes into Dylflon's server, buys a world pass (must be done ASAP so the next person can sign up faster), gives his code to DarkMaster, DarkMaster then makes his character.
- DarkMaster comes on to the same server as Crono and Dylflon, DarkMaster buys a world pass, he then gives it to the next person

And so on. That's just an example, but it is a chain reaction that will allow us to get on the same server in a smaller amount of time. Even that, though, would take a few hours. After that, the people who got the game on release can buy more world passes and give them out as more GTers buy the game. It will be a lot faster than just Dylflon giving them out, and will require less patience.

How many people are getting the game on release? We should plan this out.

EDIT: The only problem is that we don't know if world passes are available at the starting cities... if they aren't then we may be screwed.

[TheGame]

DarkMaster and I were talking about this the other day. Getting the Ps2 Users online shouldn't be a problem, but some PC guys may have to wait for the timing.

Hopfully you start out with a good amount of money on the game (at least enough to buy a pass) or this could become a problem.

getting the first few guys could work under your system Crono, but I hope some people will be able to wait a day or two to play or have some type of great communication online.

What I find dumb is the fact that you have to create a guy to start, waste your time with him, then get a world pass just to create another guy. That's awful.

I'm getting the game on Ps2's launch, so hopfully things will be ironed out by then, and we have at least 4 peeps in the same server.

By the way, the FFXI forum is coming, and this thread will be moved there, the other can stay plublic :p

[Crono]

The only other way is if people won't mind making a temporary character for a few days, just to fool around. Then re-register using a world pass. I'm not too fond of that idea, though...

Like I said, we need to work this out.

[Happydude]

we need a thread about world passes, like for example, who is getting the game at launch and who is getting world passes.

or an even better idea would be for 1 person to buy bout 5 passes at the same time (if posible) and post them in the forum like:

Crono: xxxxxxxxxxx
TheGame: xxxxxxxxxx
Happydude: xxxxxxxxxx

etc. (x being the code)

then those people buy passes and do the same...that way we'll have alot more people faster.

[Crono]

You can probably buy 5 at one time, but can only give out 1 per week. That's the bad thing...

[Ace195]

PC guys got thier Halo... took a long ass time, but eh. PCers can play Halo while I play Halo 2 ;)
Amen to that. Although I'm thinking of buying it for computer too because of the upgrades they did to the game. But I'm going to have both as soon as they set a release date for Halo2 that sticks :)

[Happydude]

oh...that really sux then :unsure:

[TheGame]

oh...that really sux then :unsure:

Yes it does... but the system will move faster with each week, and if whoever is on first can find people to give them world passes it would be great. But if Nobody can, it will be like this:

Week 1:
-Guy #1 invites guy #2

Week 2:
-Guy #1 invites Guy #3
-Guy #2 invites Guy #4

Week 3:
-Guy #1 invites Guy #5
-Guy #2 invites Guy #6
-Guy #3 invites Guy #7
-Guy #4 invites Guy #8

That's 8 guys from here alone in 3 weeks... which isn't that bad... because with each week the invites can double from 1 to 2 to 4 to 8 to 16 to 32... which is way out of our range anyway ;)

I say the people who are more part of a Clique should join later. Or people who are willing to wait it out as another 'person' ;)

I mean, who all is really getting it on it's PC release? Only 2 of these guys will get in, Then the next week 4 more, then the next week 8 more. But I'm thinking 3-4 maybe will have it at launch? Also, who knows? While the guys are waiting they could possibly get into the same server somehow, and that would speed up the process.

[Happydude]

i'll probably get it on PC launch day...then i can buy a pass, but i'l post that in the FF11 forum/pass thread...

[TheGame]

i'll probably get it on PC launch day...then i can buy a pass, but i'l post that in the FF11 forum/pass thread...

well... we'll see, to early to make that decision

[Crono]

The FFXI Clan Usergroup is up... so far me and TheGame are in... anyone who's getting the game, please sign up so we can get a forum.

BTW: Null, if you're reading this, check your PMs, I sent one to you earlier.

[Vampyr]

-Nation: San'Doria
-Race: Probably Elvaan, maybe Hume.
-Job(s): A Warrior or some type of melee class.
-Game Version: PC
-Chances of getting game: 50%. It all depends on if you have to pay with a credit card.

1. Should we be split up into three divisions?

Yes. we will cover more territory, and that way everyone can be a native of the country of their choice.

2. Why or Why not?

We will cover more territory, and that way everyone can be a native of the country of their choice.

3. Where should the Group be set up?
I dont care.

4. Why should we go there? (please give logical reasons)

N/A

5. Should this group be GT Members exclusive, or have other players from online?

Only GT members at first.

6. This way things can get organized and our group can become known and powerful first.

I will most likely name my character Vampyr, or if not that, then Zalu Ragar.

I probably wont pay for the tetra card game, I dont really want to put that much money into it.

The fact that we cant just pick the server we want to be on is stupid, but using the proven chain reaction formula, everyone should be able to get on. For me, it wont be a big deal. I probably wont get the game till around christmas anyway, and by that time there should be plenty of people to turn to for a pass.

[Dylflon]

I'm in the clan.

[TheGame]

hmm... how? *raises eyebrow*

make SURE that if you are getting the game go to user CP and request to join

[TheGame]

ya'll in

[Crono]

That's odd... I can't access the forum

[Hero2]

That's odd... I can't access the forum
neither can i

[Dylflon]

Where is it?

[Crono]

Where is it?

In the Usergroup forum list.

[TheGame]

it's not open yet...but it will be shortly