New EGM Scores

[Perfect Stu]

Source (http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47828&perpage=20&pagenumber=1)

GOTM: Soul Calibur II 10,9,10 (GOLD AWARD, GCN, PS2, XBX)

PS2
Freaky Flyers 5,3,4
Summer heat VB 6,6.5,6.5
BOMBASTIC 8,7.5,8.5
SILENT hILL 3 8.5,8.5, 9 (SILVER AWARD)
VF4:E 10,9,9.5 (GOLD AWARD)
Alien v. predator 6.5,8.0, 6.5
Hunter 6.0,5,6
Tomb Raider, 5,3,7
Madden NFL 2004 9.5,9,9.5 (GOLD AWARD...also on GCN and XBX)

Xbox
KOTOR 9.0, 10, 9.5 (GOLD AWARD)
GROUP S CHALLENGE 5,6,5
POTC 6,5.5,4.5
FEVER 6.5,6.5 6
ESPN Football 2004 8,7.5,8.5 (SILVER AWARD...also on PS2)
outlaW VB 7,7,6.5

GameCube

SX sUPERSTAR 3.5,4,4

Q-man
doa online in 2004
super fx chip for GBA
design furniture in Animal crossing 2
New Road Rash
Other def jam sports game

Three diferent covers for each SCII console

articles
tRUE CRIMES VS GTA
4 new systems (n-gage, phantom, discover, helix)
war games
Nintendo changes strategy

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Madden NFL 2004 9.5,9,9.5
ESPN Football 2004 8,7.5,8.5

Madden = http://forums.operationsports.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nchuck.gif

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[bobcat]

VF4 kicked ass. I think it definitely deserves those reviews. I am still playing that game.

[Perfect Stu]

VF4 kicked ass. I think it definitely deserves those reviews. I am still playing that game.

and EVO is being released at the US$20 Greatest Hits price. Gotta love it :D

[Bond]

It's a good month for videogames...

But KOTOR really should have got game of the month. :)

[CrOnO_LiNk]

But KOTOR really should have got game of the month. :)

Yeah, I agree. KOTOR was a big step for the Xbox, and I also think it should have got Game of the Month. Also, no GBA reviews?
:wtf:

I hope they review Final Fantasy Tactics Advance on the next issue.

[Jonbo298]

How is VF4 Evo already a Greatest Hits title? The game has/will be released soon, and it can't already meet the requirements. Unless they are classifying it the same as VF4:unsure: But at least EGM really explained Soul Caliber II. It makes me want the game even though fighting games aren't my "area". I just want to master Link's moves and I'm happy.:)

[bobcat]

What is VF4 evo?

[Perfect Stu]

What is VF4 evo?

Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution

It's like a new version of VF4...2-3 new characters, updated graphics, and this new 'quest' mode (which is supposedly better than Kumite mode from VF4).

Since it's not a completely new game and (IMO) doesn't justify a $50 price tag, Sega was kindly enough to set its retail price at US$20 when it's released here.

And Jonbo...Publishers can release games at any price they want. They wanted to match their VF4 'GH' price, so they did.

[Jonbo298]

I wasn't talking about the price they set. What I was talking about was how its already a greatest hit's title. If you look at the VF4 Evo review, the box of the game says greatest hits. I was just wondering why its like that. An example could be back in the '64 days, Nintendo decides to release a partial update to a game for the '64 and they decide to slap the million seller sticker on there. (even though the game is only partially different over the original). Unless EGM made a typo, or Sega figured since its almost the same game, just slap greatest hits on it and sell cheaper. (I'm not trying to diss on ANY companies, ok)

[BlueFire]

Silent Hill 3! Woo :p

[bobcat]

Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution

It's like a new version of VF4...2-3 new characters, updated graphics, and this new 'quest' mode (which is supposedly better than Kumite mode from VF4).

Since it's not a completely new game and (IMO) doesn't justify a $50 price tag, Sega was kindly enough to set its retail price at US$20 when it's released here.

And Jonbo...Publishers can release games at any price they want. They wanted to match their VF4 'GH' price, so they did.
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Better than Kumite? I'll have to be the judge of that

[Stonecutter]

It's a good month for videogames...

But KOTOR really should have got game of the month. :)
KotOR is unbelieveable, and I haven't played SC2 yet, but I really think that SC2 is probably a better game, jsut based on what I've seen of it and the history of the series.

I really don't like how egm only did one review for SC2.

[gekko]

VF4 kicked ass. I think it definitely deserves those reviews. I am still playing that game.

It's good, but SC2 is better.

[TheGame]

Madden = http://forums.operationsports.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nchuck.gif

http://forums.operationsports.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/y220e.gif

I knew the lack of improvement from year to year would bite them in the ass... :)

But I'll still give a chance like every year... just to re-comfirm that Madden is better, again ;)

[gekko]

Madden sucks. Always has, always will.

Sega's always had the much better football games. *goes to play Joe Montana '92*

[Stonecutter]

Lack of improvment?

Playbooks: Improved
Graphics: Improved
Blitzing: Improved (actually possible)
Passing game: Improved
Physics: Improved

Not to mention it's more realistic in general.

[BreakABone]

I really don't like how egm only did one review for SC2.

What you mean one review? They compared all 3 versions, gave the editor's thoughts on which of the 3 was better and just did one giant review instead of 3 single page reviews.

[Stonecutter]

What you mean one review? They compared all 3 versions, gave the editor's thoughts on which of the 3 was better and just did one giant review instead of 3 single page reviews.
Yeah, but we only got one set of scores. No where did they mention that they would have given all three the same score, we just kind of have to assume that they did.

Seeing as how the PS2 version actually has slowdown, has poorer graphics, and has longer load times, I really don't think it deserves the same score as the xbox and gcn versions.

[TheGame]

lmao... Madden sucks? Yet it's still better than NFL 2k ;)

As for stonecutter's comments... why don't they improve things that really matter? I mean, people already like the gameplay, so how about adding some new features? (I mean, besides a stupid idea like first person mode)

If those improvements meant so much, why didn't the game's score improve?

But whatever... No need to fight anymore, I can do like gekko used to do and hide behind the scores ;)

[Stonecutter]

lmao... Madden sucks? Yet it's still better than NFL 2k ;)

As for stonecutter's comments... why don't they improve things that really matter? I mean, people already like the gameplay, so how about adding some new features? (I mean, besides a stupid idea like first person mode)

If those improvements meant so much, why didn't the game's score improve?

But whatever... No need to fight anymore, I can do like gekko used to do and hide behind the scores ;)
Those improvements do mean a lot.

The three biggest complaints I heard about 2k3 were.

Too hard to blitz
Can't hide plays/bad playbook

and by far the most heard complaint was

Recievers drop too many passes

All three have been fixed.

And the interface is much better (so I hear)

[TheGame]

Those improvements do mean a lot.

The three biggest complaints I heard about 2k3 were.

Too hard to blitz
Can't hide plays/bad playbook

and by far the most heard complaint was

Recievers drop too many passes

All three have been fixed.

And the interface is much better (so I hear)

lol, um, and why did the scores get worse? ;)

Ok, w/o bringing up the scores... those things should have been fixed years ago. There is nothing cool about a new feature that everybody saw coming 3 years ago.. and gave up hope last year on. Where is the selling point in these features?

Madden, on the other hand, has EA Sports Bio now (unlock teams cheats and extras by playing other EA games), and added to thier already fantastic franchise mode owners mode. Not to menton there is now online tourneys... I can see the selling point there crystal clear. It gives a Madden 2003 fan more than enough reasons to get 2004. Not only that, it gives fans of NCAA football, NBA Live, and NHL 200x a reason to buy Madden over NFL 2k.

Also, there are nice gameplay changes, like how the camera moves when you do a fake handoff to keep the defence on thier toes. But that gets over shadowed by the off-the field features.

"And the interface is much better (so I hear)"

How could it get any worse? Compared to Madden the overall presentation of the game sucks. It lives up to it's "ESPN" licence's history. ;)

I could go on and on and on why I think NFL 2k is worse... but I never really had scores to back me up. Oh well, this time I do, and I have a feeling that I will continue having them backing Madden up.

Sega makes improvements every year, but not near on the scale of EA's improvements. Hell, at this point if I was the CEO at Visual Concepts, I'd start stealing EA's ideas.