RIAA: It starts...

[gekko]

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/07/19/downloading.music.ap/index.html

Some key points:

The music industry has won at least 871 federal subpoenas against computer users suspected of illegally sharing music files on the Internet, with roughly 75 new subpoenas being approved each day

Subpoenas reviewed by The Associated Press show the industry compelling some of the largest Internet providers, such as Verizon Communications Inc. and Comcast Cable Communications Inc., and some universities to identify names and mailing addresses for users on their networks known online by nicknames such as "fox3j," "soccerdog33," "clover77" or "indepunk74."

U.S. copyright laws allow for damages of $750 to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a person's computer

In some cases, subpoenas cite as few as five songs as "representative recordings" of music files available for downloading from these users.

There was some evidence the threat of an expensive lawsuit was discouraging online music sharing. Nielsen NetRatings, which monitors Internet usage, earlier this week reported a decline for traffic on the Kazaa network of one million users, with similarly large drops across other services.

[GameMaster]

A new version of "Kazaa Lite," free software that provides access to the service operated by Sharman Networks Ltd., can prevent anyone from listing all music files on an individual's machine and purports to block scans from Internet addresses believed to be associated with the RIAA.

Yeah, we're fighting back! Down with the system!

*hides music and iPod just to be on the safe side* ;)

[gekko]

But couldn't they just take them out of the shared folder to begin with?

The only sad part is how many people really don't know that it's illegal. How many people wanted music and had a friend set it up for them, and they just download songs not knowing? I mean, $750 a song? Yikes.

Now for the people who know it's illegal and don't care, it'll be fun to watch their faces on court TV.

[GameMaster]

Do you still download music?

[Null]

it'll be interesting to see how many they actually win. there are all sorts of ifs and buts. and i read somewhere the court system is getting tired of a lot of the RIAA's silly lawsuits and actually has ruled against them many times.

i mean if the court wants to, they can find loop holes and things that may make all this not even worth it for the RIAA.

this is no where near the end of it. IMO the RIAA is digging themselves more and more into a hole which one day even they might not be able to climb out of.

you cant go around sueing the people you want to buy your stuff. instead of finding a new way, the RIAA is trying to keep the old ways.

i can actually see a new recording instustry pop up at some point and challenging the RIAA, with more music artists joining them. (dunno how to word that exactly how im thinking).

time goes by, things and ways of life change. you cant cling onto the old ways. instead of using this to the RIAA's advantage, they fight it.

[Sykkie]

you cant go around sueing the people you want to buy your stuff. instead of finding a new way, the RIAA is trying to keep the old ways.

This is because the RIAA is made up of a bunch of criminals. They're happy to sit back and lie about the cost of a CD. They're happy to lock CD prices while people download music. The RIAA is a perfect example of corporate business crying poor when they're still rolling in cash after another slumping CD year.

Blame the internet? Blames yourselves, RIAA.

[Yoda9864]

on their networks known online by nicknames such as "fox3j," "soccerdog33," "clover77" or "indepunk74."
Oh ****, that's my screenname!

*runs away*

[Jason1]

so as long as we have the newest version of kazza lite we're safe it seems...good. LOL@Yoda

[Null]

so as long as we have the newest version of kazza lite we're safe it seems...good. LOL@Yoda

not exactly. but it would prolly frustrate them even more if the program gave no user names. therefor they couldnt look up ppl. and wouldnt list what everyone has.

there will always be a way to grab your IP address tho. for that is how the program works. they need ip addresses

and even if the program doesnt show them. ppl can still find them. Download a song or send it to someone. check net stats and that ip address would be listed as your connected to it.


so there would be ways. just a matter of making it more difficult for them.


Now im not sure, but IF someone made one with a central server located in a country that wouldnt cooperate with RIAA, and when you download a song you connect to it first therefor it could hide your IP address ..... maybe

[Happydude]

not exactly. but it would prolly frustrate them even more if the program gave no user names. therefor they couldnt look up ppl. and wouldnt list what everyone has.

there will always be a way to grab your IP address tho. for that is how the program works. they need ip addresses

and even if the program doesnt show them. ppl can still find them. Download a song or send it to someone. check net stats and that ip address would be listed as your connected to it.


so there would be ways. just a matter of making it more difficult for them.


Now im not sure, but IF someone made one with a central server located in a country that wouldnt cooperate with RIAA, and when you download a song you connect to it first therefor it could hide your IP address ..... maybe
sounds like a plan...

all we need to do is email someone high up to do that for the users :D

[gekko]

This is because the RIAA is made up of a bunch of criminals. They're happy to sit back and lie about the cost of a CD. They're happy to lock CD prices while people download music. The RIAA is a perfect example of corporate business crying poor when they're still rolling in cash after another slumping CD year.

Blame the internet? Blames yourselves, RIAA.

The RIAA has every right to want to end music piracy. But putting someone in jail for downloading a song isn't the way to go. But it doesn't have to be. I garauntee you no one here has the balls to download a song after they get a supeona in the mail.

The RIAA can send them out, sue the biggest violaters, and drop the charges on the rest. It's like speeding when a cop is driving behind you, you just don't do it. Send any person a supeona and they will stop downloading songs immediatly.

And no, I don't download songs anymore. Never was a big fan of it, never will be. I've used iTunes for 3 songs, the rest I just buy the CD.

[One Winged Angel]

LOL... I find this funny that only the peole who suport the RIAA are...

*cough Mac Users...

[Null]

why would that make a difference??

mp3's arent computer specific to macs or pc's

and itunes isnt just for mac users. there are websites that do the same thing for PC users. a few of em. some even cheaper then itunes.
and they are making itunes for PC anyway.

[One Winged Angel]

No it's not that. Maybe my friend is retarded but he says he cant download any music on his damn Mac.

[BlueFire]

I downloaded Kazaa ++ a few weeks ago. A lot of results.. It blocks IPs from RCIAA, although i don't know how credible that is. And it puts your rating at Supreme Being.

www.kazaakpp.com

[gekko]

LOL... I find this funny that only the peole who suport the RIAA are...

*cough Mac Users...

Actually, it tend to be those who don't do the crime that support the RIAA. Mac users are not as big into piracy as PC users, period. While it's still there, many in the Mac community like Apple and would rather pay for their software. On top of that, the Mac users have been enjoying the iTunes store, which is great.

Downloading music is not worth the effort. Many Mac users would agree with me. But generally, anyone who is not a fan of pirating will support the RIAA.

[Null]

I downloaded Kazaa ++ a few weeks ago. A lot of results.. It blocks IPs from RCIAA, although i don't know how credible that is. And it puts your rating at Supreme Being.

www.kazaakpp.com



its not. it may block ip's from its program.

however if someone downloads a song from you. Your IP address will appear in the net stats. Theres no way around it. you are connected to the person you are sharing music with. (unless it goes thro a central server)

[GameMaster]

LOL... I find this funny that only the peole who suport the RIAA are...

*cough Mac Users...

I never said I supported the RIAA. I never said I didn't either. I download a lot of music that I don't own. I think the solution needs to come halfway between paying and downloading so that everyone is happy. Some companies are already practicing this and having great success, aka, iTunes store (I'm going to promote Apple any chance I have :D).

and they are making itunes for PC anyway.

Did Apple announce that?

No it's not that. Maybe my friend is retarded but he says he cant download any music on his damn Mac.

Your friend is retarted, no offence. Downloading music is easy on any computer. :dj:

[One Winged Angel]

I know that Limewire is also compatible for Mac, but is Kazaa?

[Null]

Did Apple announce that?


as far as i understood it yes. they said something about it in PC World magazine, that apple will be doing that along with the apple software for the ipod.

so i wont have to use music match for my little ipod no more. WEEEE! :)



I know that Limewire is also compatible for Mac, but is Kazaa?

only if they make a kazaa version for mac. but mac has its own programs

reason limewire works in both is because its Java. java creates its own vitual os or something and runs on that. which also makes it slower, and i hate programing in java (that has nothing to do with it but i do really hate java)

[GameMaster]

I know that Limewire is also compatible for Mac, but is Kazaa?

No, no Kazaa for Mac yet.

Null, I didn't know you had an iPod! What generation/size is it? :D

[Null]

the new 30gig one ;)

got it bout a month or 2 ago when it first came out.

[gekko]

Did Apple announce that?

There was never a huge announcement, because, why the hell would anyone following Apple give a damn? But it has been brought up periodically.

It started not long after iTunes 4 was released. It's a way for Apple to get the music store to the PC world as well. It's doing extremely well on Mac, there are many more PC users out there, and the music industry likes it, which in turn probably means more music and more exclusives for Apple.

The only thing in question is just how much will be supported on PC. Music sharing will be gone for sure, since it requires Rendezvous. Burning will likely work, but who knows about compatability. The first few iTunes releases didn't support many 3rd party CD-RWs. But the rest should work just fine, but that may or may not be a problem.

On the one hand, Apple may release it so PC users can understand what they're missing. On the other hand, it's less incentive to buy a Mac. So for all we know, Apple may take out some features, but that doesn't seem like Apple.

What's more likely is that iTunes for PC will not be free. Apple has charged for iMovie upgrades in the past, and currently charges for iDVD upgrades, but they come free with a new computer (and iMovie for OS X has always been free). Apple is also charging $29 for iChat AV, but it comes free with Panther. It wouldn't be surprising if Apple included iTunes with iPod purchases, but charged for PC users to buy it. Developing software for Windows costs money, more money than for Mac. It would be no surprise if iTunes was not free software. But on the other hand, good luck selling software to people who not only download their music, but probably everything else on thier computer.

[GameMaster]

My upgrade to iMovie 3 was free. And the iTunes software price is probably added into the final price of the iPod so people are already paying for it when they buy their iPods. We get free iTunes upgrades but perhaps Window versions will cost?

[One Winged Angel]

Here's the list of users going to court...

Aab@Kazaa
Aboggs2@Kazaa
allstatetide@Kazaa
Amissann2@Kazaa
AngelaMikesell@Kazaa
anon39023@Kazaa
anthonybotz@Kazaa
aoster1@Kazaa
Ariel167@fileshare
asheejojo@Kazaa
Ashley@Grokster
azn_bahamut@Kazaa
B.B.C@Kazaa
badandy@Kazaa
Benchy987@Kazaa
Bigeasssy24@Kazaa
Bigpimpinitopey187@Kazaa
bigjohnhc@Kazaa
blazel@Kazaa
bluemonkey13@Kazaa
Boilermaker1214@Kazaa
brentandjonna@Kazaa
brich410@Kazaa
budman5000@Kazaa
Bush323@Kazaa
cado@Kazaa
Carolyn@fileshare
Casal@Kazaa
cbegalle@Kazaa
cherriie@Kazaa
CLOVER77@Kazaa
Corky101@Kazaa
Cortez1023@Kazaa
CowgirlMDR@Kazaa
crazyface@Kazaa
d-dubb@Grokster
dallass@Kazaa
daredevil@Kazaa
DEFAINCE357@Kazaa
definitely_ditzy@Kazaa
dimples0530@Kazaa
dmadigan@Kazaa
dotzbadger@Kazaa
dubcha@Kazaa
dulfingurl2@Kazaa
Dyellagurl22@Kazaa
Dziion@Kazaa
eddieh@Kazaa
emmi4@Kazaa
enbbarnes@Kazaa
ERIKA@Kazaa
felicia_alvarado@Kazaa
flowerpower0818@fileshare
fox3j@Kazaa
freckles72587@Kazaa
fritzbuilding@Kazaa
Generalby@Kazaa
Ghettobootybabe8@Kazaa
h2ochamp@kazaa
harris@Kazaa
heather_thee_amazing@Kazaa
hoami316@Kazaa
hooterzzz@Kazaa
hottdude0587@Kazaa
HyDang@Kazaa
ilovemydez@Kazaa
indepunk74@Kazaa
inthisroom@Kazaa
jamonie@Kazaa
JE_WV@Kazaa
Jeff@Kazaa
Jessica@Kazaa
jim@Kazaa
joanjett@Kazaa
joe@Kazaa
jomada@Kazaa
JustineRiot@Kazaa
kelney12@Kazaa
kenne007@Kazaa
KrAyZiE@Kazaa
ktgurl13@Grokster
kunstrukter@Kazaa
ladypimp8669@Kazaa
laurelbean@Kazaa
leahpate@Kazaa
LiLHuNnIe1480@Kazaa
Lisweet@Kazaa
Lyssy348@Kazaa
madkirk@fileshare
Marge4131@Kazaa
Marla262@Kazaa
mgokey@Kazaa
mike@Kazaa
Motivator@Kazaa
munkeyspanker21@Kazaa
nikki@Kazaa
Niltiak@Kazaa
Nodopefor2@Kazaa
paulina@Kazaa
pdia@Kazaa
PDJ1846@Kazaa
Playgirlmama@Kazaa
Prtythug23@Kazaa
qjade512@Kazaa
rebecca_m_122@Kazaa
rips42@Kazaa
rochelle@Kazaa
RockOn182@Kazaa
samlionofzino@Kazaa
shakobe@Kazaa
shonga84@Kazaa
sk8boyben@Kazaa
sneil@Kazaa
soccerdog@Kazaa
StolenSi@Kazaa
sus@Kazaa
Sweet3114@Kazaa
sweetthang1421@Kazaa
TheLastReal7@Kazaa
TMONEYNDHIZOUSE@kazaa
Tyler@Kazaa
Unit984@Kazaa
Westly_NoGood@Kazaa

Damn... I've even downloaded from a few of them =\

http://www.techtv.com/news/culture/story/0,24195,3484600,00.html

[Stonecutter]

I wonder if the RIAA will end up going to court against Monkey****er666@kazza.com or any other obscene names.

It would be funny to be sure.

But either way suing your customers is not the way to stay in business very long.

[Null]

how on earth do you know you downloaded from some of them? who actually takes note on who they downloading from?

[One Winged Angel]

how on earth do you know you downloaded from some of them? who actually takes note on who they downloading from?

I remember a few names... like Fox3j@kazaa...

I just remember random **** like that

[Null]

yanno. a lot of thoes names seem to be female sounding.

then again theres prolly a lot of weird doods out there who make thier user names like that. *shrug*

[GameMaster]

We pirates must band together now and an underground community like that of Xian. The prophecy was right, we must fight back.

[bobcat]

Here's the list of users going to court...

Aab@Kazaa
Aboggs2@Kazaa
allstatetide@Kazaa
Amissann2@Kazaa
AngelaMikesell@Kazaa
anon39023@Kazaa
anthonybotz@Kazaa
aoster1@Kazaa
Ariel167@fileshare
asheejojo@Kazaa
Ashley@Grokster
azn_bahamut@Kazaa
B.B.C@Kazaa
badandy@Kazaa
Benchy987@Kazaa
Bigeasssy24@Kazaa
Bigpimpinitopey187@Kazaa
bigjohnhc@Kazaa
blazel@Kazaa
bluemonkey13@Kazaa
Boilermaker1214@Kazaa
brentandjonna@Kazaa
brich410@Kazaa
budman5000@Kazaa
Bush323@Kazaa
cado@Kazaa
Carolyn@fileshare
Casal@Kazaa
cbegalle@Kazaa
cherriie@Kazaa
CLOVER77@Kazaa
Corky101@Kazaa
Cortez1023@Kazaa
CowgirlMDR@Kazaa
crazyface@Kazaa
d-dubb@Grokster
dallass@Kazaa
daredevil@Kazaa
DEFAINCE357@Kazaa
definitely_ditzy@Kazaa
dimples0530@Kazaa
dmadigan@Kazaa
dotzbadger@Kazaa
dubcha@Kazaa
dulfingurl2@Kazaa
Dyellagurl22@Kazaa
Dziion@Kazaa
eddieh@Kazaa
emmi4@Kazaa
enbbarnes@Kazaa
ERIKA@Kazaa
felicia_alvarado@Kazaa
flowerpower0818@fileshare
fox3j@Kazaa
freckles72587@Kazaa
fritzbuilding@Kazaa
Generalby@Kazaa
Ghettobootybabe8@Kazaa
h2ochamp@kazaa
harris@Kazaa
heather_thee_amazing@Kazaa
hoami316@Kazaa
hooterzzz@Kazaa
hottdude0587@Kazaa
HyDang@Kazaa
ilovemydez@Kazaa
indepunk74@Kazaa
inthisroom@Kazaa
jamonie@Kazaa
JE_WV@Kazaa
Jeff@Kazaa
Jessica@Kazaa
jim@Kazaa
joanjett@Kazaa
joe@Kazaa
jomada@Kazaa
JustineRiot@Kazaa
kelney12@Kazaa
kenne007@Kazaa
KrAyZiE@Kazaa
ktgurl13@Grokster
kunstrukter@Kazaa
ladypimp8669@Kazaa
laurelbean@Kazaa
leahpate@Kazaa
LiLHuNnIe1480@Kazaa
Lisweet@Kazaa
Lyssy348@Kazaa
madkirk@fileshare
Marge4131@Kazaa
Marla262@Kazaa
mgokey@Kazaa
mike@Kazaa
Motivator@Kazaa
munkeyspanker21@Kazaa
nikki@Kazaa
Niltiak@Kazaa
Nodopefor2@Kazaa
paulina@Kazaa
pdia@Kazaa
PDJ1846@Kazaa
Playgirlmama@Kazaa
Prtythug23@Kazaa
qjade512@Kazaa
rebecca_m_122@Kazaa
rips42@Kazaa
rochelle@Kazaa
RockOn182@Kazaa
samlionofzino@Kazaa
shakobe@Kazaa
shonga84@Kazaa
sk8boyben@Kazaa
sneil@Kazaa
soccerdog@Kazaa
StolenSi@Kazaa
sus@Kazaa
Sweet3114@Kazaa
sweetthang1421@Kazaa
TheLastReal7@Kazaa
TMONEYNDHIZOUSE@kazaa
Tyler@Kazaa
Unit984@Kazaa
Westly_NoGood@Kazaa

Damn... I've even downloaded from a few of them =\

http://www.techtv.com/news/culture/story/0,24195,3484600,00.html

same!

That's freaky. So wot heppens to them?

[Null]

most likely the users will buckle under the presure and goto a settlement.

i'll be surprised if they actually end up going to court.

[bobcat]

most likely the users will buckle under the presure and goto a settlement.

i'll be surprised if they actually end up going to court.

These guys must have been sharing ALOT of stuff. As in have multiple servers just for sharing and stuff.

I can't imagine these ppl sharing a few songs. Good news for the record industry

[Null]

nobody has a 'server' for it so to speak.

its just they searched him on the program and found he has music thats aviliable for otehrs to download. no one has multiple anything, just one user and his hard drive.


needless to say they are basically going after the people who are giving the stuff out. otherwise they wouldnt know if you download a song, unless they setup a server and copy yuor name down if you download from them..... but then they are putting music up for download. could sue them. lol

[GameMaster]

The only thing other people can see is our Shared folders, right? So if I relocate all the files, nobody will be able to find them, correct?

[bobcat]

nobody has a 'server' for it so to speak.

its just they searched him on the program and found he has music thats aviliable for otehrs to download. no one has multiple anything, just one user and his hard drive.


needless to say they are basically going after the people who are giving the stuff out. otherwise they wouldnt know if you download a song, unless they setup a server and copy yuor name down if you download from them..... but then they are putting music up for download. could sue them. lol


I see. So they r not going for the big hitters, just anybody they can find.

Jeez that could be anybody.

[bobcat]

I see. So they r not going for the big hitters, just anybody they can find.

Jeez that could be anybody.I was thinking the same thing.

But eventually there will be no files to download if ppl stop sharing.

What about web based/ftp based servers?

[One Winged Angel]

I was thinking the same thing.

But eventually there will be no files to download if ppl stop sharing.

What about web based/ftp based servers?\

It's almost impossible for the RIAA to go after FTP servers.

[BreakABone]

I was thinking the same thing.

But eventually there will be no files to download if ppl stop sharing.

What about web based/ftp based servers?
Did you just quote something you said about a minute before you quoted yourself?

:eyes:

[PureEvil]

The only thing other people can see is our Shared folders, right? So if I relocate all the files, nobody will be able to find them, correct?

Correct.

[bobcat]

Did you just quote something you said about a minute before you quoted yourself?

:eyes:

I did 2.

er......

I quoted myself accidentally instead of some1 else :unsure:

[PureEvil]

I see. So they r not going for the big hitters, just anybody they can find.

Jeez that could be anybody.
I was thinking the same thing.

But eventually there will be no files to download if ppl stop sharing.

What about web based/ftp based servers?

LMAO. Talking to yourself on an internet forum. That's a new low.

[bobcat]

I was meant to quote Gamemasters sentence.

Hmm but it does look kinda stupid under the circumstances.

[Null]

I see. So they r not going for the big hitters, just anybody they can find.

Jeez that could be anybody.

well if they could find them. they'd like to be going after the big 'sharers'

They cant find the people that are just downloading a song. because how are they supposed to know if you are connected to someone else?


What they are doing is searching for copyrighted material in the search, and writing down all the usernames that pop up in the list, then they are clicking on each users and seeing what else they have that they are sharing.


Which raises a few questions. i dont think they're actually downloading a file from each person. So if they take someone to court, what if that person says he never let anyone take songs from him? what if he says he cancels each download ppl try and do from him? They have to prove he's actually giving stuff out. not that he just has files in his share folder.
The other question is im sure many of you have at least once ran into a file that said it was a certain thing. but really they just lied and its something totally worthless. what if they nab a person and take him to court and all he has is fake files. nothing real?

Then the ultimate question. or kinda wish thing..... If the RIAA is using kazaa or grokster or one of these types of programs.... Wouldnt it be just funny if they got some viruses from it? lol

[bobcat]

well if they could find them. they'd like to be going after the big 'sharers'

They cant find the people that are just downloading a song. because how are they supposed to know if you are connected to someone else?


What they are doing is searching for copyrighted material in the search, and writing down all the usernames that pop up in the list, then they are clicking on each users and seeing what else they have that they are sharing.


Which raises a few questions. i dont think they're actually downloading a file from each person. So if they take someone to court, what if that person says he never let anyone take songs from him? what if he says he cancels each download ppl try and do from him? They have to prove he's actually giving stuff out. not that he just has files in his share folder.
The other question is im sure many of you have at least once ran into a file that said it was a certain thing. but really they just lied and its something totally worthless. what if they nab a person and take him to court and all he has is fake files. nothing real?

Then the ultimate question. or kinda wish thing..... If the RIAA is using kazaa or grokster or one of these types of programs.... Wouldnt it be just funny if they got some viruses from it? lol

Well they kinda do. Advertising that edits ur registry. Don't think it multiplies tho.

[Jason1]

I feel quite safe using the new version of Kazaa lite, with its disableing file sharing options, and its options to block other users from looking at everything you have.

[gekko]

They cant find the people that are just downloading a song. because how are they supposed to know if you are connected to someone else?

Well, they can actually. If the RIAA sets up their own server, and you attempt to download from them.

[Null]

Well, they can actually. If the RIAA sets up their own server, and you attempt to download from them.


yea i mentioned that earlier in this topic. if they set up a trap and wait for you to download from them then grab your name and ip.

but then they would be sharing illegal files. lol :p

[gekko]

Well, yes and no. They have put out corrupt files in the past that are the same size as the real thing, but only play a small portion of the song before turning to junk. The trick there was to make it harder for people to get a good file, and then they get sick of it and just get the CD.

So they could use those.

[Null]

this is true, However then that fuzzy line starts to come in to play again.

do they wait for you to download the full thing? or nab your name when you start the DL? otherwise you could listen before you finish downloading and decide.

Then they've basically given you a defence to use. one could say they didnt download a copyrighted song. they downloaded a file that plays a section and stops. kinda like a demo. never downloaded the real thing from them.

there is so many ifs and buts. will be interesting if some of these goto court.

[GameMaster]

Would you guys think I was a selfish pig if I downloaded songs and then relocated them?

[gekko]

Yes.

[bobcat]

Would you guys think I was a selfish pig if I downloaded songs and then relocated them?lol.

[GiMpY-wAnNaBe]

Here's the list of users going to court...

Aab@Kazaa
Aboggs2@Kazaa
allstatetide@Kazaa
Amissann2@Kazaa
AngelaMikesell@Kazaa
anon39023@Kazaa
anthonybotz@Kazaa
aoster1@Kazaa
Ariel167@fileshare
asheejojo@Kazaa
Ashley@Grokster
azn_bahamut@Kazaa
B.B.C@Kazaa
badandy@Kazaa
Benchy987@Kazaa
Bigeasssy24@Kazaa
Bigpimpinitopey187@Kazaa
bigjohnhc@Kazaa
blazel@Kazaa
bluemonkey13@Kazaa
Boilermaker1214@Kazaa
brentandjonna@Kazaa
brich410@Kazaa
budman5000@Kazaa
Bush323@Kazaa
cado@Kazaa
Carolyn@fileshare
Casal@Kazaa
cbegalle@Kazaa
cherriie@Kazaa
CLOVER77@Kazaa
Corky101@Kazaa
Cortez1023@Kazaa
CowgirlMDR@Kazaa
crazyface@Kazaa
d-dubb@Grokster
dallass@Kazaa
daredevil@Kazaa
DEFAINCE357@Kazaa
definitely_ditzy@Kazaa
dimples0530@Kazaa
dmadigan@Kazaa
dotzbadger@Kazaa
dubcha@Kazaa
dulfingurl2@Kazaa
Dyellagurl22@Kazaa
Dziion@Kazaa
eddieh@Kazaa
emmi4@Kazaa
enbbarnes@Kazaa
ERIKA@Kazaa
felicia_alvarado@Kazaa
flowerpower0818@fileshare
fox3j@Kazaa
freckles72587@Kazaa
fritzbuilding@Kazaa
Generalby@Kazaa
Ghettobootybabe8@Kazaa
h2ochamp@kazaa
harris@Kazaa
heather_thee_amazing@Kazaa
hoami316@Kazaa
hooterzzz@Kazaa
hottdude0587@Kazaa
HyDang@Kazaa
ilovemydez@Kazaa
indepunk74@Kazaa
inthisroom@Kazaa
jamonie@Kazaa
JE_WV@Kazaa
Jeff@Kazaa
Jessica@Kazaa
jim@Kazaa
joanjett@Kazaa
joe@Kazaa
jomada@Kazaa
JustineRiot@Kazaa
kelney12@Kazaa
kenne007@Kazaa
KrAyZiE@Kazaa
ktgurl13@Grokster
kunstrukter@Kazaa
ladypimp8669@Kazaa
laurelbean@Kazaa
leahpate@Kazaa
LiLHuNnIe1480@Kazaa
Lisweet@Kazaa
Lyssy348@Kazaa
madkirk@fileshare
Marge4131@Kazaa
Marla262@Kazaa
mgokey@Kazaa
mike@Kazaa
Motivator@Kazaa
munkeyspanker21@Kazaa
nikki@Kazaa
Niltiak@Kazaa
Nodopefor2@Kazaa
paulina@Kazaa
pdia@Kazaa
PDJ1846@Kazaa
Playgirlmama@Kazaa
Prtythug23@Kazaa
qjade512@Kazaa
rebecca_m_122@Kazaa
rips42@Kazaa
rochelle@Kazaa
RockOn182@Kazaa
samlionofzino@Kazaa
shakobe@Kazaa
shonga84@Kazaa
sk8boyben@Kazaa
sneil@Kazaa
soccerdog@Kazaa
StolenSi@Kazaa
sus@Kazaa
Sweet3114@Kazaa
sweetthang1421@Kazaa
TheLastReal7@Kazaa
TMONEYNDHIZOUSE@kazaa
Tyler@Kazaa
Unit984@Kazaa
Westly_NoGood@Kazaa

Damn... I've even downloaded from a few of them =\

http://www.techtv.com/news/culture/story/0,24195,3484600,00.html
notice how they're all "@Kazaa" no Kazaalite or such??

[Null]

no, i dont notice, they're all on the same network bro. it just so happens kazaa is the most popular.

theres a @fileshare and a @grokster

and i do believe kazaalite still uses @kazaa, no?


Oh, BTW, jason, you feeling safe with your new version. but who says they are using the newest version when they look? nothing is forcing everyone to upgrade. therefor wouldnt it be the same for them even if you are using a new version?

[Jason1]

no, i dont notice, they're all on the same network bro. it just so happens kazaa is the most popular.

theres a @fileshare and a @grokster

and i do believe kazaalite still uses @kazaa, no?


Oh, BTW, jason, you feeling safe with your new version. but who says they are using the newest version when they look? nothing is forcing everyone to upgrade. therefor wouldnt it be the same for them even if you are using a new version?


Um...I wouldnt think so...because Kazaa lite now has those options to block IP's and stop anyone from seeing your shared files and stuff like that...it wouldnt really matter what version other people are using...I have a feeling that not exactly what you mean though.

[Null]

well block ip's is pointless. they can always find your ip no matter what the program does.


but just not sure exactly how the block songs is going to work. with ppl on older versions. have to read a little on it.