'Girls Gone Wild' Producer Charged

[Jewels]

PANAMA CITY, FLORIDA (AP) -- "Girls Gone Wild" producer Joe Francis is now facing 22 criminal charges, including filming underage girls involved in sexual activity.

Francis, 30, was arraigned Thursday in Bay County Circuit Court with racketeering and conspiracy to engage in racketeering activity, which are both first-degree felonies which carry up the 30 years in prison.

He also faces three counts of promoting the sexual performance of children; four counts of conspiracy to promote the sexual performance of children; two counts of using children in sexual performances; four counts of procuring persons younger than 18 for prostitution; two counts of conspiring to procure persons under 18 for prostitution; two counts of selling, distributing or offering to distribute or possessing with intent to distribute obscene material; two counts of prostitution; and one count of trafficking in hydrocodone.

Many of the charges name Mantra Films Inc. and Aero Falcons LLC as co-defendants.

Mantra Films produces the "Girls Gone Wild" videos, which routinely feature public nudity and sexual situations.

Francis and his staff were in Panama City Beach in February, March and April to tape a Spring Break special. He was arrested April 3 on prostitution, sexual exploitation and drug trafficking charges. Some of his employees have also been charged.

Francis attorney, Daniel Petrocelli, said from his office in California that the number of charges show how weak the state's case is.

"What they did was take one incident and try to cobble it together to support a (racketeering) claim, and it's transparent," he said. "There's no racketeering involved here. The charges against Mr. Francis are reckless and irresponsible."

Racketeering is when someone intentionally sets up an illegal moneymaking operation and uses the funds to support a legitimate or illegitimate business.

The charges list several girls by their initials only, all younger than 18, who investigators said were filmed on March 31 engaging in sexual activity.

Petrocelli said the girls identified in the charges all told the videos producers they were older than 18, some said it while being videotaped, and one or more had signed a waiver declaring themselves older than 18.

Petrocelli, who may be best known for representing Fred Goldman in a wrongful death suit against O.J. Simpson, said Francis case is an example of city and county officials trampling on the freedom of expression.

"The goal of 'Girls Gone Wild' is to capture the spontaneity of college coeds having fun on Spring Break and other times of leisure," Petrocelli said. "This is about the way young people have fun these days. It might be different than the way you and I used to have fun."

Petrocelli said the prosecutor should know that Francis wasn't trafficking in hydrocodone, for example, because he was given Francis' prescription for Vicodin and a letter from his doctor.

[The Germanator]

poor guy. :(

[Happydude]

...i don't watch those videos...so i don't care if they get banned or whatever...as for the guy...meh...i don't care...

[Joeiss]

I watch these sometimes... But I never understand why girls would flash guys for those chincy looking beeds.

[GameKinG]

He really should ID the girls, before filming them...

[Joeiss]

Well, from the ones that I have seen, it is just like random filmings of girls... So it would be kind of hard to ID them all... But then again, he should if he wanted to stay out of jail.

[NYGiant]

Good for the sick guy.He helps make the world a sicker place along with homosexuals

[mickydaniels]

Originally posted by NYGiant
Good for the sick guy.He helps make the world a sicker place along with homosexuals

I couldn't have said it better myself. But, unfortunately, this may be even better publicity for today's sexcrazed society.

[DeathsHand]

Wow! Real life homophobes! Can I have your autographs?

[BlueFire]

Originally posted by DeathsHand
Wow! Real life homophobes! Can I have your autographs? LOL.


Anyways... Sucks for this guy. :p

[Mechadragon]

Nooooo!!! Now we will have to turn to the thousands of other videos/websites/magazines to get our porn.

[GameKinG]

Well, I was watching the VH1 documentary about him that followed him around for awhile. He does talk to most of the girls before they flash him. And especially for those "dorm fantasy" crap they make.

[One Winged Angel]

Originally posted by NYGiant
He helps make the world a sicker place along with homosexuals
ouch...

[Seven7]

It would be nice if girls flashed me.






















What. :sneaky:

[ZeroCool51]

NY Giant are you a homosexual? I think you are that's why you saying they make the world a sicker place you just dont want anyone to know your gay. That's kind of sad just admit your a homosexual NY Giant I mean I think everyone here at GT can kind of tell you are. :)

[One Winged Angel]

Originally posted by Duffman
NY Giant are you a homosexual? I think you are that's why you saying they make the world a sicker place you just dont want anyone to know your gay. That's kind of sad just admit your a homosexual NY Giant I mean I think everyone here at GT can kind of tell you are. :)

No... he is just a person who has hate for someone different. I think people like him make this world a sicker place.

[ZeroCool51]

I agree people like him make the world a sicker place.

[mickydaniels]

What are you talking about?
People these days attach no shame to homosexuality. It is considered wrong in every important religion(Christianity, Judaism, Islam). It's just like Sen. Santorum said, homosexuality, incest, and adultery are all related. Why? If no one snitches, no one has to know. Those are all different people. Some people can't help being attracted to little kids. Some people can't help trying to get more than one wife. Some people are just naturally hot-tempered and they kill people. They're just different. They should never change. :D


There are a lot of people out there who think the same thing but are too afraid to say it. If someone gay told you he was attracted to you, you'd say it's cool, right?

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by mickydaniels
It's just like Sen. Santorum said, homosexuality, incest, and adultery are all related.

Bull-****ing-****... Y'know what homosexuality is related to? Racism... Because they're both cases of people hating other people because they're different...

[The Germanator]

Originally posted by mickydaniels

If someone gay told you he was attracted to you, you'd say it's cool, right?

Yes, I'd be fine with it. I'd explain to him that I wasn't in to it myself, but why would I have a problem with it? It's his choice to be attracted to me, there is no reason to dislike someone just because they choose a lifestyle different from yours.

[GiMpY-wAnNaBe]

Originally posted by The Germanator
Yes, I'd be fine with it. I'd explain to him that I wasn't in to it myself, but why would I have a problem with it? It's his choice to be attracted to me, there is no reason to dislike someone just because they choose a lifestyle different from yours.


ditto!

its like making fun of a disabilitated person just cuz he can't run as fast as you. Besides, i doubt i'd see you complaining if you saw lesbians making out in public, as for relating guys who rape kids and serial killers to homosexuals, thats the stupidest comparison i've ever heard in my life!!! do u really wanna know the difference?? its the fact that when 2 ppl are gay, theres no victim. If you don't want to see gay people fine, don't look at it, if it really bothers you that someone is different, thats your opinion, its just like i choose not the play those stupid dance games in the arcade, you don't want to, then don't. As for religion saying that its wrong, if you pay attention to the smaller details, just about all religions tell you to overcome differences and under ppl for who they are, do you really think that Jesus would be a homophobe?????

[mickydaniels]

Originally posted by DeathsHand
Bull-****ing-****... Y'know what homosexuality is related to? Racism... Because they're both cases of people hating other people because they're different...

Okay. A baby is born. You can see the skin color. From that we get racial and cultural discrimination.
You can see whether it's a boy or girl. From that we get sex discrimination.
Look at it, and you can see it's relative age. From tha we get age discrimination.


Okay. Look at the baby again. What tells you if it is straight or not? Nothing. Because that is a matter of choice.

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by mickydaniels
Okay. A baby is born. You can see the skin color. From that we get racial and cultural discrimination.
You can see whether it's a boy or girl. From that we get sex discrimination.
Look at it, and you can see it's relative age. From tha we get age discrimination.


Okay. Look at the baby again. What tells you if it is straight or not? Nothing. Because that is a matter of choice.

And? It's still a matter of someone being different... And some people would argue that people are born gay (of course you can't tell by just looking at a baby), but that hasn't been proven and I don't think that's the case...

[mickydaniels]

That's where I have to disagree.
You can't discriminate against the basic makeup of people. But I personally don't have to like your personal choices. They try to make it something other than choices. Homosexuality is a choice.

If I said, I hate guys who go out and have sex with a different girl every night, you'd probably have no problem with that.
If I said, I hate people who smoke, you'd probably have no problem with that, right.
Those are all different people, aren't they?

[TheGame]

um... I think racism is different than hating a person for being gay...

The main reason is if you hate sombody for being gay, you hate them for thier actions. Hating a person because his or her race is based on thier appearence and has nothing to do with what actions they made or how good or bad thier personality is.

What if a guy comes to you and says that he loves having sex with Children age 5 and under... and he claims he was "born this way", what makes him any different from a gay person?

It's all in what you think is moral or not, or what is acceptable sexual behavior. Desire and Actions are allways an option... they chose to do this, and I think it is wrong, they chose to do that and I think it is right. Either way I believe if you want to, you can hate a person for thier actions.

Some guys (both straight and gay) think that being gay is acceptable sexual behavior, some don't... some think sleeping with young children is acceptable sexual behavior, some think it's wrong... some think Crashing into a building in an airplane to kill thousands of people is acceptable behavior, some think it's wrong...

The fact is, there is no right or wrong... it all depends on YOU and what YOU feel is acceptable or not.

[DeathsHand]

And even though you say it's different, some people hate black people and some don't... Some people hate hispanic people and some don't... Some people hate Americans and some don't...

[TheGame]

Originally posted by DeathsHand
And even though you say it's different, some people hate black people and some don't... Some people hate hispanic people and some don't... Some people hate Americans and some don't...

exactly... but are those judgements based off of actions and choices, or is it somthing the could have hated a person for before the person even developed a personality (a Baby)?

that's whole point of my post, my opinion is that it's acceptable to hate for actions, but not apperance.

-EDIT-

and don't expect me to take a side on this "gay is right/wrong" debate" :p

[mickydaniels]

Originally posted by TheGame
um... I think racism is different than hating a person for being gay...

The main reason is if you hate sombody for being gay, you hate them for thier actions. Hating a person because his or her race is based on thier appearence and has nothing to do with what actions they made or how good or bad thier personality is.

What if a guy comes to you and says that he loves having sex with Children age 5 and under... and he claims he was "born this way", what makes him any different from a gay person?

It's all in what you think is moral or not, or what is acceptable sexual behavior. Desire and Actions are allways an option... they chose to do this, and I think it is wrong, they chose to do that and I think it is right. Either way I believe if you want to, you can hate a person for thier actions.

Some guys (both straight and gay) think that being gay is acceptable sexual behavior, some don't... some think sleeping with young children is acceptable sexual behavior, some think it's wrong... some think Crashing into a building in an airplane to kill thousands of people is acceptable behavior, some think it's wrong...

The fact is, there is no right or wrong... it all depends on YOU and what YOU feel is acceptable or not.

Actually I think there is a right and a wrong. When the line between both gets blurred enough times, then there actually is no difference.
And, technically, homosexuality is illegal in this country.
In 1986, Bowers v. Hardwick case in the Supreme Court, it was ruled that the Constitution does not give people the right to engage in consexual sex in whatever form in the privacy of their homes. That's 1986. It was about some gay guys in Georgia. I read it in one of my college books. The reasoning doesn't make too much sense, but whatever.


And Game, everyone can tell where you stand on this ..;)

[NYGiant]

Originally posted by Duffman
NY Giant are you a homosexual? I think you are that's why you saying they make the world a sicker place you just dont want anyone to know your gay. That's kind of sad just admit your a homosexual NY Giant I mean I think everyone here at GT can kind of tell you are. :)

You think you're funny.You must be the *** since you're defending them so much.Everyone can tell.How?You're the only *** since you like defending them so much,loser.Deathshand is a retard.Being gay is a choice not a race.Any race can be gay.I'm black so if i don't like a black *** i'm a racist even though we are the same color?Also duffman you being a homosexual is something because if it wasn't then why are you calling me one?

[TheGame]

Originally posted by mickydaniels
And Game, everyone can tell where you stand on this ..;)

:lol:

[One Winged Angel]

Originally posted by mickydaniels
Okay. A baby is born. You can see the skin color. From that we get racial and cultural discrimination.
You can see whether it's a boy or girl. From that we get sex discrimination.
Look at it, and you can see it's relative age. From tha we get age discrimination.


Okay. Look at the baby again. What tells you if it is straight or not? Nothing. Because that is a matter of choice.
ok.. u should shut up because u don't know what the **** your talking about. I'm bisexual, I've been struggling with that for a long time. It was not my choice it was just who I was. does that make me a bad person!?! Does that make me a child molester?!? Think whatever u want but ur no better than racists

I didn't choose to be gay. You and NYGiant don't understand any of this.

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by NYGiant
You think you're funny.You must be the *** since you're defending them so much.Everyone can tell.How?You're the only *** since you like defending them so much,loser.Deathshand is a retard.Being gay is a choice not a race.Any race can be gay.I'm black so if i don't like a black *** i'm a racist even though we are the same color?Also duffman you being a homosexual is something because if it wasn't then why are you calling me one?

I'm not gonna deal with you guys anymore... I think you need to grow up and accept people for who they are instead of hating them for a stupid reason that has no effect on you or anybody else... But you're not going to so why argue?

[GiMpY-wAnNaBe]

Originally posted by One Winged Angel
ok.. u should shut up because u don't know what the **** your talking about. I'm bisexual, I've been struggling with that for a long time. It was not my choice it was just who I was. does that make me a bad person!?! Does that make me a child molester?!? Think whatever u want but ur no better than racists

I didn't choose to be gay. You and NYGiant don't understand any of this.


watch....now everyones gonna shut up about this because all of a sudden BOOM...they realize that its not just other ppl their talkin about....they all of a sudden realize that they know someone who isn't straight. And like i said....there is a VERY BIG difference between child molesters and gay ppl, there are no innocent victims in ppl being gay. There is no child taken advantage of when someone is living the way they think is right, and you have no ****ing right to tell someone else that your right and their wrong. And maybe ppl aren't defending gay ppl cuz they themselves are gay, maybe its just because some of them have the common sense to not act like a dictator and punish all who are different.

[The Germanator]

Originally posted by TheGame


What if a guy comes to you and says that he loves having sex with Children age 5 and under... and he claims he was "born this way", what makes him any different from a gay person?



The problem with this is that sleeping with a 5 year old is a CRIME. Based on that fact, this man will be labeled as deviant and hopefully arrested for doing an injustice to society. What the hell is the harm in a man that you don't know, loving another man that you don't know? Why would you HATE someone, that has never directly effected you, or someone else? There is no victim in a homosexual relationship. And if there is, please share. The examples you mentioned (pedophilia, 9/11) have victims...so it's understandable to hate those actions.

[Jewels]

man why cant yall quit fighting about over who someone is, who cares if there bisexual or a homosexual, or a pedefile like michael jackson, anywho the point is yall need to grow up and to stop nagging at people for who they chose to be, yall are acting like a bunch of friggin 5 year olds!

[mickydaniels]

Originally posted by One Winged Angel
ok.. u should shut up because u don't know what the **** your talking about. I'm bisexual, I've been struggling with that for a long time. It was not my choice it was just who I was. does that make me a bad person!?! Does that make me a child molester?!? Think whatever u want but ur no better than racists

I didn't choose to be gay. You and NYGiant don't understand any of this.


No I don't understand how someone can say I cannot control my own actions.


And Germanator, why is sleeping with a 5year old a crime? Because the government says so? What if the 5year old wanted to? What if a brother and sister loved each other very much and wanted to get married, and the sis was already pregnant? Where is the crime if the 2 siblings consent? Where is the crime when the 5year old consents and maybe even goes looking for it?




And to gimpywannabe, Jesus came to make the Kingdom of God accessible to the whole world and not just jews. He didn't have to comment on every last issue except those where there were misunderstandings and abuses.


I have nothing more to add since I'm not going to change your minds and you're not going to change mine. good night:-o

[TheGame]

Originally posted by The Germanator
The problem with this is that sleeping with a 5 year old is a CRIME. Based on that fact, this man will be labeled as deviant and hopefully arrested for doing an injustice to society. What the hell is the harm in a man that you don't know, loving another man that you don't know? Why would you HATE someone, that has never directly effected you, or someone else? There is no victim in a homosexual relationship. And if there is, please share. The examples you mentioned (pedophilia, 9/11) have victims...so it's understandable to hate those actions.

lol, well, that's by your standards and the government's standards... but by some people's standards it's just as bad. Some people think masturbating is a terrible thing to do, some think it's perfectly normal and acceptable. It all depends on the person...

And Germanator, why is sleeping with a 5year old a crime? Because the government says so? What if the 5year old wanted to? What if a brother and sister loved each other very much and wanted to get married, and the sis was already pregnant? Where is the crime if the 2 siblings consent? Where is the crime when the 5year old consents and maybe even goes looking for it?

lol, exactly... Germenator, I'll take your line (with a twist):

What the hell is the harm in a man/kid that you don't know, loving a kid/man that you don't know?

you were right, a man loving a man does no direct harm, just like a man loving a kid, the only difference is that I feel that both are unacceptable and you feel that only one is.

a 16 year old girl making love to a 18 year old boy is against the law, but I personally don't see the problem with it... no matter what the law says. You may not even have a problem with it.. like I said, it all depends on what a person feels is acceptable sexual behaivior.

If you even admit yourself that you could hate a 30 year old man for having a sexual relationship with a 5 year old child, based 100% off of what he does in his personal sex life, who's to say it is wrong for a guy to hate gay people for what they do in thier personal sexual life?

Personally, I don't hate gay people, in fact, my uncle is gay, and I love him very much... but the fact is I still think it is wrong. If you are gay, I got no problem with you because of it, but I do have a problem with your views on life. I personally feel that there is no point in hating a person for thier sexual prefrences, but if you want to hate them for it I'm not gonna stop you.

[NYGiant]

Ok you're stupid. you have no morals. thats the problem today. EVERYTHING is Ok. people like you help the spread of disease. It's my decision. I should like people that do voodoo also. That's their choice. You don't realize how stupid you guys sound. Its not Ok. Its sick.Just thinking about it makes me want to vomit. One question. Why does every religion have homosexuality as a major sin? So why hate anybody? Thats their decision. So whats right or wrong to some of you people? Most people who talk are far from anything. But hey you guys can think whatever you want cuz you won't change my mind.


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I just added some spaces after periods for you, I could have fixed a lot more, but eh, I had to make it a little easier to read"
-TheGame
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[mickydaniels]

I'm thinking this thread should be laid to rest. All the arguments have already been given and maybe the only thing left now is to flame.

Nothing's been solved:beerchug:

:handball:
:flame:


:argue:
:slap:


good night, everybody.

[TheGame]

Originally posted by mickydaniels
I'm thinking this thread should be laid to rest. All the arguments have already been given and maybe the only thing left now is to flame.

Nothing's been solved:beerchug:

You have a point...