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tarakan69
04-23-2003, 05:47 AM
Mario Kart


http://www.nintendo-europe.com/compel/images/compel_images/Image_b8d770f1-076c-41f1-8699-ee3aa838e101.jpg
http://www.nintendo-europe.com/compel/images/compel_images/Image_97c0b729-0f93-43de-b7bd-974003640669.jpg
http://www.nintendo-europe.com/compel/images/compel_images/Image_f776b58c-d40b-49fe-8f28-b2130ceecb1d.jpg
http://www.nintendo-europe.com/compel/images/compel_images/Image_3d99e1da-1efa-4552-a18a-89160fe60427.jpg
http://www.nintendo-europe.com/compel/images/compel_images/Image_10e4af04-5d74-42b2-83d6-f654d18b8cc3.jpg
http://www.nintendo-europe.com/compel/images/compel_images/Image_e052c7c3-24e7-4196-8ddf-8322159d6c07.jpg



Pikmin 2


http://www.nintendo-europe.com/compel/images/compel_images/Image_e052c7c3-24e7-4196-8ddf-8322159d6c07.jpg
http://www.nintendo-europe.com/compel/images/compel_images/Image_ccd55a4c-171d-45aa-ae57-ccea005679d0.jpg
http://www.nintendo-europe.com/NOE/en/GB/popups/image_gal.jsp?index=9&itemDesc=newsLocal&prop=imagesLocal&id=3242d393-f4c5-4e00-89fd-b50a67eedcc5&skip=1
http://www.nintendo-europe.com/compel/images/compel_images/Image_636d45bf-413d-4c10-ae60-e0b34f2b8e9d.jpg


http://www.nintendo-europe.com/compel/images/compel_images/Image_56a220bc-1e2b-4960-b7c4-ae86a3e51c59.jpg

Neo
04-23-2003, 06:29 AM
:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

Joeiss
04-23-2003, 06:35 AM
Woah... Mario Kart is shaping up nicely... But too bad I couldn't tell the difference between Pikmin 1 and 2.. lol

fingersman
04-23-2003, 09:44 AM
Why do they have two people on the cart? Well NM...it looks nice, especially when I see Koppa tropper in there. :D

BreakABone
04-23-2003, 09:45 AM
I think these are larger

http://www.videogamerx.com/gamenews/a555/01.jpg
http://www.videogamerx.com/gamenews/a555/02.jpg
http://www.videogamerx.com/gamenews/a555/03.jpg
http://www.videogamerx.com/gamenews/a555/04.jpg
http://www.videogamerx.com/gamenews/a555/05.jpg

I heard it also supports LAN

And the official name is Double Dash

GameKinG
04-23-2003, 09:53 AM
I like the car idea, but what is luigi driving in that last one? He is so whipped by daisy.

BreakABone
04-23-2003, 09:56 AM
The latest in the acclaimed Mario Kart series is here, and this time, you won't be racing alone! Each kart holds two racers, so choose from Mario, Luigi, Peach, Baby Mario, Baby Luigi, Yoshi, Birdo, Wario, Waluigi, Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Bowser, Bowser Jr., Koopa, and Paratroopa and pair them up any way you see fit. The character in front handles the driving duties, while the character in the rear doles out damage with six normal items and eight special items that only specific characters can use. Racers can swap places at any time, so switch it up on the fly to make the best use of your items as you tear around curves and over huge elevation changes.

From Nintendo's official e3 2k3 site. First info on Mario Kart: Double Dash.

So according to this, any of the 16 characters can be teamed up. Bowser and Mario? Peach driving Bowser's get a way car? Peach and Daisy in a Kat Fight?

Also, I guess you control both of the characters and have the abilirty to switch in and out.

http://www.nintendo.com/e32k3/img/mario_kart_logo.jpg
http://igngcngb.50megs.com/mariokart.jpg

Canyarion
04-23-2003, 09:57 AM
I wonder if you can make any combination of characters.... Cause we see Mario & Luigi pairs, but also Mario & Peach...

Haha Baby Mario & Baby Luigi!! :D

Edit: BreakABone posted just before me. :)

The graphics are pretty decent by the way.

GameKinG
04-23-2003, 10:11 AM
According to the magazine, it could have LAN. I dunno japanese though...

BreakABone
04-23-2003, 10:20 AM
And as sad as it is, this is a thread for PikMin 2 as well and found it only right to talk about that as well.

Captain Olimar has returned to the planet where the Pikmin live, and he's all business this time!
The company he works for is going bankrupt, so to save it, Olimar must salvage the treasure buried all over the planet. His company's debt is a whopping 10,000 pokos- luckily, Olimar brought an assistant, so if the two of them can delegate their work well, they should be able to erase that debt in no time! Of course, they'll need the help of the Pikmin to do that-these two can't do anything by themselves. Alternate controlling the main characters-Olimar and his assistant-as you command your Pikmin to defeat enemies, propagate more Pikmin, collect precious doodads, and solve puzzles. With no time limit, new colors of Pikmin, and two-player cooperative play, Pikmin 2 improves on the original in every way.

Well this sounds cool. Will Nintendo allow for both olimar and his assistant to control two different groups of PikMin for some puzzles?

No time limit? The game could be longer/shorter?

Co-op play? Is that Nintendo's word for the year?

*Goes back to staring at Mario Kart screens*

Canyarion
04-23-2003, 10:22 AM
Makes me wonder... is Mario Kart co-op?? Does 1 player steer, and the other attack?? Then how would they do 4 splitscreen, like in the first screen? :confused:

GameKinG
04-23-2003, 10:22 AM
NO TIME LIMIT!

tarakan69
04-23-2003, 11:19 AM
Is it me or they are on a buggy


http://www.videogamerx.com/gamenews/a555/04.jpg

Dyne
04-23-2003, 11:35 AM
Good god.. Mario Kart looks reeeaaallly good :eek:

Pikmin.. meh.

I like this combination idea a lot. See, now that we have Diddy in this game, it's like Mario Kart and Diddy Kong Racing. :p But yeah! Good to see Nintendo still has ideas up their sleeves.

BreakABone
04-23-2003, 12:57 PM
Well this is the fully translated article from Famistu.

Scoop #1: “Mario Cart GC” (tentative title): First Available Screen Shots of Long-Awaited Game!

Title: Mario Cart GC (tentative)
Platform: Nintendo GameCube
Release Date: Undetermined
Price: Undetermined
Ok, the name is no longer tentative as it's titled Mario Kart: Double Dash.

The GC version of “Mario Cart” has at last been announced to the public! Unlike previous installments, this one features two characters riding the carts simulatenously – one in back and one in front. The number of selectable characters has grown to 16, opening up the range of races to be had even more. Furthermore, there are items that can only be used by certain characters, as well as those that only can be utilized depending on the combination of characters chosen. Choosing the right character to ride behind you and using the items effectively will be the key to victory.
Well 16 characters is what, double the number the other games had?
Certain team combos? Does that mean Mario and Luigi will make a better team than say Mario and Birdo?
Also this double character car racing will give a whole new meaning to backseat driver..

Special Focus:
Increased Multiplayer Options?

Famitsuu would like to turn reader’s eyes to this game’s incorporation of LAN-based competition, an experimental effort involving competitive play though network technology. As it’s been made clear that Nintendo is working on a network-based plan of their own, it’s safe to say that this game will be one of those to take advantage of this plan.
Although multiple GC units and copies of the soft will be necessary to employ it, LAN-based competition features no time lag and allows for greater multiplayer possibilities. Look for Nintendo to elaborate on this at E3.
Well, it's finally confirmed that Mario Kart: Double Dash will feature LAN support, but what I find even more intriguing is the fact that this doesn't sound like the only game Nintendo got planned to take advantage of this feature. I wonder with this added emphasis on co-op gameplay...

The heart-pumping races of Mario Kart featuring simultaneous 4-player competition come back to life!

Mario Kart for the GC will of course feature simultaneous four-player competition, with the screen to be split into four parts as shown in the picture. Looks like the number of carts and courses has increased as well!
Well ofcourse there are more karts since every character seems to have their own custom one.
I don't know how they can tell the number of courses, but you can see some from Isle Delfino.

Check out the picture of Mario looking to the side as he uses an item. This and the other screen shots would imply that items can be used in whatever direction – forward, back, right, or left.
I figured that's why the second character was included to give you manual aim at weapons and what have you.

Point 1:
New strategy comes to life with two characters riding the same cart – one in front and one in back!

Take on the various courses with an extra character riding in the back of your cart, an option unavailable in the previous Mario Kart games. This amazing new option allows for the two characters riding the same cart to switch positions, and only the character seated in the back is alloweed to use items. The items that can be used change according to the characters chosen, making the selection of the racing team to be used a major point.

Point 2:
The characters that have been confirmed to appear are…

Mario, Luigi, Peach, Daisy, Baby Mario, Baby Luigi, Yoshi, Catharine, Wario, Waruiji, Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Koopa, Koopa Jr., NokoNoko and PataPata 16 characters in all. Perhaps there are some secret characters as well…?


Point 3:
The advantage of LAN-based competition

LAN-based competition will allow a max of 8 players to play simultaneously. Loooks for more details to be announced at E3.

Jason1
04-23-2003, 01:06 PM
Its looking great. Im surprised to see all this stuff this early, but im not complaining!

TheGame
04-23-2003, 01:22 PM
Mario Kart looks gay as usual...

I'm looking forward to Pikmin 2 though.

DarkMaster
04-23-2003, 03:44 PM
if mario kart was online, I'd buy it the day it was released. But now, I'll probly just rent it whenever it comes out and play it with some friends. looks cool, but without online compatability, I'll probly get bored of it fast, because at the end of the day, mario kart is a racing game, and I'm not a big fan of that genre. unless it was online, damn that would be sweet.

pikmin 2 looks bleh. thats all I got to say about that game.

Stonecutter
04-23-2003, 03:44 PM
And this game is supposedly done? What the hell? How can zelda and metroid look so good and this game look so.....bleh. TEXTURES. Jesus, what do we have to do for a little bump mapping here and there.

I'm sure the game will be fun but I'm really think we've earned the right to expect a little more from our games in the graphics department.

Oh yeah, this would have been impossible for 8 players on broadband :rolleyes:

Shadow_Link
04-23-2003, 04:01 PM
Er, you do know that you can use the LAN feature to play this game online, Gamespy have just signed on to do such things.

Crash
04-23-2003, 04:19 PM
omg omg omg omg omg mario kart whoa whoa whoa whoa AHHHHHHH!!!!!:roll: :boing: :WHOA:

One Winged Angel
04-23-2003, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by TheGame
Mario Kart looks gay as usual...

I'm looking forward to Pikmin 2 though.
:rofl:

Stonecutter
04-23-2003, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Shadow_Link
Er, you do know that you can use the LAN feature to play this game online, Gamespy have just signed on to do such things.

Yeah......matter of fact I mentioned that in another thread.


But it's still no where near as good as a nintnendo supported dedicated service.

BreakABone
04-23-2003, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by Stonecutter
And this game is supposedly done? What the hell? How can zelda and metroid look so good and this game look so.....bleh. TEXTURES. Jesus, what do we have to do for a little bump mapping here and there.

I'm sure the game will be fun but I'm really think we've earned the right to expect a little more from our games in the graphics department.

Oh yeah, this would have been impossible for 8 players on broadband :rolleyes:

Well, I doubt the game is complete, just look at the screenshots and you can see that the orders of racers isn't in order in most of them, which atleast tells me it's a work in progress,

And I don't know, I never really found out where people want Mario games to go graphical, sure it can be cleaned up a bit, but eh.

Idiot
04-23-2003, 06:18 PM
It would appear that yet another Nintendo-produced videogame masterpiece is imminent then.....

Shadow_Link
04-23-2003, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by Stonecutter
But it's still no where near as good as a nintnendo supported dedicated service.

True. Infact, I heard that the networking code would have to be top notch, and allow for a higher banwidth (or some jargon like that), so that lag wouldn't be a pain in the arse.

But if it worked for Halo, then who knows :D.

Mushlafa
04-23-2003, 11:50 PM
Always been a fan of mario kart games... il prolly buy it or at least give it like 6 rents over GC's life cycle if its good... sit down with a couple friends and play this game all night is kina fun :)

GameMaster
04-23-2003, 11:56 PM
Mario Kart looks great! Go Bowser! :D

And having no time limit in Pikmin 2 may make it worthy of buying. A lot of you guys are too fixed on the non-updated graphics since the last one though. Graphics aren't everything.

Blix
04-24-2003, 01:56 AM
The addition of Link and Zelda would've been nice IMO. The only thing I don't like is the Karts' desing. Other than that, the games looks as fun as a Mario Kart game should be. I kinda like the two characters per kart thingy already. I'm still a little disapointed that the game will not feature online play. I don't have broad band so I can't get online. Anyways, the four player mode has always been fun-as-hell and that will keep me satisfied for sure. And, IMO, it would be cool if Zelda and Link were secret characters in the game.

DeathsHand
04-24-2003, 03:01 AM
The vehicles in Mario Kart look like Power Wheels... Custom made Power Wheels...

And Pikmin 2 looks like Pikmin 1...

And you want me to believe you're the leader of the free world?

Don't waste my time...

Now where'd I leave my ham sandwich?

Stonecutter
04-24-2003, 03:15 AM
Originally posted by Nemesis
The addition of Link and Zelda would've been nice IMO.


Yeah, I don't know what nintendo's deal with that is. I'm getting really sick of the mario kart/golf/tennis rosters, I wish they'd put the smash brothers roster into these games.

TheGame
04-24-2003, 03:24 AM
Originally posted by Stonecutter
Yeah, I don't know what nintendo's deal with that is. I'm getting really sick of the mario kart/golf/tennis rosters, I wish they'd put the smash brothers roster into these games.

Nah, I dunno, there is somthing about imagineing Link/Gannondorf playing Golf or Tennis that doesn't sound right.

As for Mario Kart, I wouldn't give a rats ass either way.

I think Mario Party could fit everybody in, but Golf/Tennis probably should just stick to the "Mario" world of guys.

tarakan69
04-24-2003, 05:31 AM
Well generally I think Nintendo should stop the stupid Golf/Volley spin offs.

I for instant am NOT intrested... I don't exactly get all too horny and erected about playing as Mario in a Golf or Volley game.

I also won't be getting Mario Kart cause it has no descent single player... but it is a karting game so I should complain.

Idiot
04-24-2003, 06:57 AM
Ah, happy summer days playing Mario Golf, happy winter evenings spent playing Mario Tennis. Of course, it would have been cheaper and healthier for me to buy a racket and tube of balls or set of 2nd hand golf clubs instead, but I couldn't really care less, I prefer my sports to be virtual.

bobcat
04-24-2003, 08:20 AM
Mario Kart was never out to impress anyone graphically, so I don't really mind that much.

I just want this game. The LAN feature sounds neat, considering the small size of the GC (and the handle).

Pikmin2 on the other hand....well I don't really care

viruscool
04-24-2003, 09:19 AM
I just dont see your problem. Mario kart is not suposed to be a realisitc looking game. You need to think again, if it has the gameplay i dont care about what the graphics look like. If i wanted a graphical racer i would go for a F1 game with a crappy multiplayer mode. In my eyes its gameplay over graphics, and thats what mario kart will give us i essure you.

Shadow_Link
04-24-2003, 10:01 AM
The game is called 'Mario' Kart. Only characters from the Mario universe will be in the game. Link and Ganondorf are not in the Mario universe. Same with Mario Golf and Mario Tennis (bloody good game).

GameKinG
04-24-2003, 10:11 AM
Mario Golf and Tennis are excellent games. I think mario golf is probably the second best golf game I have ever played, and the only tennis game I have ever played was also Mario. Good, good games. I think they were also good sellers on N64.

Anyway, you cant change the roster to anything outside Mario, other wise it wouldnt be Mario Kart. Besides, Link racing in a kart is just not fit.

Perfect Stu
04-24-2003, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by viruscool
I just dont see your problem. Mario kart is not suposed to be a realisitc looking game. You need to think again, if it has the gameplay i dont care about what the graphics look like. If i wanted a graphical racer i would go for a F1 game with a crappy multiplayer mode. In my eyes its gameplay over graphics, and thats what mario kart will give us i essure you.

How does hi res textures and smooth models necessarily make for a realistic looking game? The difference between a realistic looking game and a cartoony looking game is the art style. Gameplay > Graphics, I agree...but that shouldn't give Nintendo the excuse to bail in the graphics department.

Before you throw large pointy rocks at me, Mario Kart should not disappoint in the gameplay department.

bobcat
04-24-2003, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by GameKinG
Mario Golf and Tennis are excellent games. I think mario golf is probably the second best golf game I have ever played, and the only tennis game I have ever played was also Mario. Good, good games. I think they were also good sellers on N64.



I agree. Well except for Mario Golf coz I haven't played it. But Mario Tennis IMO is easily the best tennis game overall going around.

Much more better than Virtua Tennis :errr:

Without a doubt

Dyne
04-24-2003, 12:35 PM
I agree on some terms for the Tennis ordealy. I effing loved Super Tennis, and I think Nintendo should start their sportsline again. :D

Well, uh... Mario Kart is different. It's an original idea for one.

BreakABone
04-24-2003, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Perfect Stu
How does hi res textures and smooth models necessarily make for a realistic looking game? The difference between a realistic looking game and a cartoony looking game is the art style. Gameplay > Graphics, I agree...but that shouldn't give Nintendo the excuse to bail in the graphics department.

Before you throw large pointy rocks at me, Mario Kart should not disappoint in the gameplay department.

I agree with Stu, I mean the game doesn't have to look realistic, it does however need to be cleaned up just a bit.

I mean other than that I don't mind the look of the game, nice, colorful and vibrant.

TheGame
04-24-2003, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by GameKinG
Mario Golf and Tennis are excellent games. I think mario golf is probably the second best golf game I have ever played, and the only tennis game I have ever played was also Mario. Good, good games. I think they were also good sellers on N64.

I agree... But I'm simply a fan of all golf games that play like Mario golf, they keep getting better and better. Mario Golf has a lot of extra features that put it over the top though.

As for Mario Tennis, I agree also, I can't think of a tennis game I've played that's outright better.

BreakABone
04-24-2003, 01:07 PM
http://www.nintendo.com/e32k3/img/mariokartdd_screens_03.jpg

http://www.nintendo.com/e32k3/img/mariokartdd_screens_02.jpg

Well these are the screens on the official site, extremely small, but eh.

viruscool
04-24-2003, 02:17 PM
Yeah i agree but as someone pointed out its not quite finished yet. Yeah hopefully they make it look a little cleaner, but if they dont then i dont reall care!!

Shadow_Link
04-24-2003, 02:20 PM
I totally agree that an effort should be made to make the graphics look good. The thing is though, sites like gamesradar and Cube IGN have stated that the graphics look 'brill!' and 'amazing respectively. I actually agree, that is, when I see the smaller pics (well, I wouldn't go as far as amazing, but they do look better than the large pics). Could it be that these larger pics have been bloated up, hence quality has been lost? I guess we should all wait till a video is released. Remember SMS? The graphics weren'r nearly as bad as the pictures depicted.

Anyway, I agree with all the comments about Mario Tennis. It was definately the best tennis game since Super Tennis and Smash court tennis on the Snes.

(I haven't actually played Mario Golf :eek:. But I definately plan on buying it for the Cube, that is if it's as good as the Golf mode in SMB, well, is it atleast similar? :D).

Perfect Stu
04-24-2003, 05:15 PM
I really really really hope Nintendo makes a new Mario Golf for GBA...if they did, I would buy a GBA:SP in no time. I found the GBC version of Mario Golf more addicting than the N64 version, although both were great.

Best TV-console golf game - Hot Shots Golf 3
Best handheld golf game - Mario Golf GBC
Best tennis game - Virtua Tennis (arcade)

Stonecutter
04-24-2003, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by Perfect Stu
How does hi res textures and smooth models necessarily make for a realistic looking game? The difference between a realistic looking game and a cartoony looking game is the art style. Gameplay > Graphics, I agree...but that shouldn't give Nintendo the excuse to bail in the graphics department.

Before you throw large pointy rocks at me, Mario Kart should not disappoint in the gameplay department.



BING BING BING BING BING BING

YOU ARE CORRECT SIR!

glad someone gets it.

Shadow_Link
04-24-2003, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by Perfect Stu
I really really really hope Nintendo makes a new Mario Golf for GBA...if they did, I would buy a GBA:SP in no time. I found the GBC version of Mario Golf more addicting than the N64 version, although both were great.

What was the perspective like on the GBC?

Was it overhead action?

BreakABone
04-24-2003, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by Perfect Stu
I really really really hope Nintendo makes a new Mario Golf for GBA...if they did, I would buy a GBA:SP in no time. I found the GBC version of Mario Golf more addicting than the N64 version, although both were great.

Best TV-console golf game - Hot Shots Golf 3
Best handheld golf game - Mario Golf GBC
Best tennis game - Virtua Tennis (arcade)

Well, I'm trying to find the link, but I know that Mario Golf was confirmed for GBA from Nintendo on something.

http://pocket.ign.com/objects/550/550432.html?ui=gamefinder

IGN has it listed which is the best I can do at the moment.

Dyne
04-24-2003, 07:23 PM
Bah, doesn't anyone remember how Mario Sunshine looked at one point? Kind of like that. The faces were fuzzy. But hey, look at it now.. it's pretty much fine. The same thing will probably happen with Mario Kart.

TheGame
04-24-2003, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by Dyne
Bah, doesn't anyone remember how Mario Sunshine looked at one point? Kind of like that. The faces were fuzzy. But hey, look at it now.. it's pretty much fine. The same thing will probably happen with Mario Kart.

Mario Sunshine as a final prouct still didn't look that hot. But I understand what you mean, if the curve is the same Mario Kart will look just fine.

BreakABone
04-24-2003, 11:38 PM
Well here are some larger/higher-rez pictures of the two screens I posted earlier

http://images.nintendo.com/nintendo/contents/gamepage/gamecontent/images/m/mariokart_gcn_ss4.jpg

http://images.nintendo.com/nintendo/contents/gamepage/gamecontent/images/m/mariokart_gcn_ss5.jpg

Seth
04-25-2003, 12:46 AM
I'm pretty sure Camelot announced gba mario golf/tennis in development. And the textures in Mario Kart DD imo are lacking in the textures. Kind of dissapointing, but it's still going to be the funnest game on the cube for me. I love the kart series.

Stonecutter
04-25-2003, 02:45 AM
Golf and Tennis are definatly in developement, there were screens out about a year ago (don't think they were actually made to represent any acual game elements.)

Weather or not they're in development for the GBA is in question but I mean, this is nintendo, how could they not be?

Canyarion
04-25-2003, 06:25 AM
Well, Nintendo hasn't really made any good new stuff for the AGB... just ports of the Mario games... and Wario & Game&Watch. :unsure: Oh yeah Advance Wars... :)

Blackmane
04-30-2003, 10:48 AM
Mario Kart is shaping up good, I just hope they do indeed incorporate a LAN to the game, and especially all the battle modes.

BreakABone
05-05-2003, 10:35 AM
Well here is two pieces of art from the game, either Mario has two karts or one of them is Luigi's.

http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.puissance-nintendo.com/images/jeux/ngc/mariokart/artwork2.jpg

http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.puissance-nintendo.com/images/jeux/ngc/mariokart/artwork3.jpg

Jason1
05-05-2003, 04:04 PM
Uh...thats the exact same kart there Penguin ;)

Dyne
05-06-2003, 12:02 AM
Nice.. that could lead to some interesting battle modes. :D