TLoZ:TWW smashes preorder records.

[Shadow_Link]

I would have posted this in the other thread, but this deserves it's own thread.

It's finally happened, TWW has garnered more preorders than any other game.


Gamers Take Detour from Vice City and Head to Hyrule
Wednesday March 12, 8:12 am ET
The Legend Of Zelda: The Wind Waker Generates Record Pre-Sell Numbers


REDMOND, Wash.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 12, 2003--Since it was first announced, The Legend of Zelda®: The Wind Waker(TM) pre-sell program for Nintendo GameCube(TM) has captured the hearts and attention of gamers across the country.
Still two weeks from launch, more than 560,000 Zelda fans have reserved their copy of The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker and received the nearly sold-out limited-edition disk featuring two playable, full-length games originally for the Nintendo® 64: The Legend of Zelda®: Ocarina of Time®(a) and The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Master Quest, for a suggested retail price of $49.95. This makes The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker Nintendo's most successful pre-sell program in history.

"The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker is the most anticipated video game in Electronics Boutique's history based on our pre-orders, even outpacing last year's Grand Theft Auto: Vice City," says Jerry Madaio, vice president, merchandising, Electronics Boutique. "And the number of pre-orders is still growing! Clearly, this game's appeal is so wide, that it is a 'must-have' for any Nintendo GameCube owner."

"Given the history of the Zelda series, we expected overwhelming interest, and this solidifies the ever-growing phenomenon and attraction gamers have to the characters and story," explains George Harrison, senior vice president, marketing and corporate communications, Nintendo of America Inc. "It doesn't matter which system you own, gamers across the world respect and anticipate the launch of any Zelda game and The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker is a killer application that will move hardware."

Launching March 24, The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker is an epic adventure that will have the character Link sailing the high seas and searching for clues to his sister's mysterious disappearance. The game is brought to life with incredible toon-shaded visuals and a unique facial animation system. Link's eyes not only show his emotions but also provide hints and spot danger, inspiring a sense of wonder in players of all ages. Connect the Game Boy® Advance, via the Nintendo GameCube Game Boy Advance cable, and players can summon the mapmaker Tingle to uncover hidden secrets to help Link in his voyage.

To date, worldwide sales of The Legend of Zelda series have surpassed 36 million software units.

As the worldwide leader and innovator in the creation of interactive entertainment, Nintendo Co. Ltd., of Kyoto, Japan, manufactures and markets hardware and software for its popular home video game systems. The systems include Game Boy®, Nintendo® 64, Game Boy Advance and Nintendo GameCube(TM). Since the release of its first home video game system in 1983, Nintendo has sold more than 1.6 billion video games worldwide, creating enduring industry icons such as Mario(TM) and Donkey Kong® and launching such franchises as Zelda(TM) and Pokemon®. As a wholly owned subsidiary, Nintendo of America Inc., based in Redmond, Wash., serves as headquarters for Nintendo's operations in the Western Hemisphere.

[Joeiss]

Cool cool.

But didn't Vice City has something like a couple million preorders? Or were those just BS numbers?


Anyways... This game is going to be huge. I was at EB yesterday, and the demo was there. And I'll tell you, it looked outstanding.

[TheGame]

well, that's just one store...

But either way, I'm proud of Nintendo, this looks like it will be the first game to sway console sales.

[DeathsHand]

Who wants to bet that after the initial sales burst, Zelda drops quickly on the charts? :sneaky:

[Joeiss]

lol dh

[Mushlafa]

Originally posted by DeathsHand
Who wants to bet that after the initial sales burst, Zelda drops quickly on the charts? :sneaky:

was gonna say that... there arent enough cube owners out there to keep sales up for more than a month...

[Joeiss]

Unless people buy multiple copies of the game..


:sneaky:

[Blix]

Originally posted by DeathsHand
Who wants to bet that after the initial sales burst, Zelda drops quickly on the charts? :sneaky:
The brightest flame burns the quickest, my friend.

[Joeiss]

....


Therefore makes less money.


;)

[Jonbo298]

I dont care if Zelda is on top for a month or 2 and starts to fall off. I'm gonna be looking at the sales for the first few months and that will show how well its doing. Enough people will own Zelda that they don't need to buy multiple copies because a game freezes and some people are dumb enough to buy another because of a stupid cheat code that can screw up a game. But my rant is enough. This is really great for the 'Cube. At least its getting some attention finally.

[Shadow_Link]

Originally posted by TheGame
well, that's just one store...

But either way, I'm proud of Nintendo, this looks like it will be the first game to sway console sales.

What do you mean by one store? :confused:

If you mean that Zelda has received over 560,000 preorders in one store, you're crazy :eek:.

It's notched up more preorders than any game in all stores...

And Joeiss, those GTA number were BS to an extent. They are true, but they aren't customer preorders numbers like these are, they were the amonut of copies the 'stores' themselves preordered.

If you count these preorders alone on top of the sales in Japan, it's already sold over a million worldwide.

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by Jonbo298
I dont care if Zelda is on top for a month or 2 and starts to fall off. I'm gonna be looking at the sales for the first few months and that will show how well its doing. Enough people will own Zelda that they don't need to buy multiple copies because a game freezes and some people are dumb enough to buy another because of a stupid cheat code that can screw up a game. But my rant is enough. This is really great for the 'Cube. At least its getting some attention finally.

Oh yes, I'm sure that glitches and such were the reason that GTA3 stayed high up on the sales charts for so long... Sounds like a stupid way for some people to downplay GTA's success :p

[Joeiss]

So jonbo, the only reason why Pokemon did so well was because people tried to get Mew and Pikablue, and they messed up their game, so they bought new ones?



:rolleyes:

[TheGame]

a game that starts slw and gains momentum is better than a game that starts fast, and dies within a month. *coughmetroidcough*

[surfin4lifer]

wtf. . .someone says the pre sales are doing good and you guys act like something is bound to happen wrong cause its nintendo. I mean seriously do you think there is like a million cubes sold throughout the world? I don't think so< i'm to lazy to look up the actuall figure but I'm sure its a lot more than that and this game is a def must buy, every one i know has preordered it. You guys need to get a grip on things and chill out.

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by surfin4lifer
wtf. . .someone says the pre sales are doing good and you guys act like something is bound to happen wrong cause its nintendo. I mean seriously do you think there is like a million cubes sold throughout the world? I don't think so< i'm to lazy to look up the actuall figure but I'm sure its a lot more than that and this game is a def must buy, every one i know has preordered it. You guys need to get a grip on things and chill out.

I said what I said because it seems like ALL the big Nintendo games start off with a bang (although not this much of a bang) and then sink fast... And I think this will be no exception, and the reason this is getting even more pre-orders than the other big Nintendo games is the free OoT/MQ bonus disc...

*shrugs*... Just my little theory, I'm not saying it's actually the case... Just seems like it to me maybe...

[The Duggler]

So what!? Will it make it any less good? No way! Zelda is going to be way above the level of any PS2-XBOX games. Just like Metroid.

[GameMaster]

I haven't seen any live footage or demos so I'm going to be real surprised when I pick it up.

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by Ranzid
So what!? Will it make it any less good? No way! Zelda is going to be way above the level of any PS2-XBOX games. Just like Metroid.

I never said it wouldn't be a great game... if I thought it would be a bad game I wouldn't have pre-ordered it back in April... But this topic is about how there are crazy number of pre-orders, and I was just saying that I bet after this initial huge surge, the sales shall drop off quite fast...

And I don't think Metroid is above the level of some PS2 games... I dunno about Xbox cuz I've never played it, but I've gone over this a few times before...

[TheGame]

Originally posted by Ranzid
So what!? Will it make it any less good? No way! Zelda is going to be way above the level of any PS2-XBOX games. Just like Metroid.

:lol:

you are a funny one... yeah, I think Zelda will be a new level of gaming this generation, but metroid? LMAO

I'm sorry, but I don't get what people like about that game. I'd take MANY games made for Ps2, Xbox, or GCN over it. Hell, I got the game for free when I re-purchased my GCN (got the platnum one) and I turned it in within 2 weeks for $15 which I put toward a superior game. (I chose not to name the game because I don't feel like fighting :))

[Mushlafa]

the game.. what is it about metroid you hate so much man? I didnt get much time to play it but from what i played i seemed to really like it.... i only got up to that big plant boss with the solar panel things :unsure:

[bobcat]

Originally posted by Mushlafa
the game.. what is it about metroid you hate so much man? I didnt get much time to play it but from what i played i seemed to really like it.... i only got up to that big plant boss with the solar panel things :unsure:

Haven't been there yet.

You have to understand that different people have different opinions.

My opinion is that Metroid Prime is overall the best game out of GC/Ps2 and Xbox, and I am guessing Zelda will be too (maybe after Metroid). That's just a guess though for Zelda, but the game looks amazing.

For me there are Ps2 games that I really like, but when I compare them with Nintendo's exclusives (Zelda/Metroid/Mario Sunshine) they seem kinda at the "pretty good" level. I like Ps2 for its variety in games, and it's exclusive (well actually MGS ain't Ps2 exclusive anymore, so that just leaves GTA for me, no wait that's out on Pc, then there's FFX-2 and FFX). But the games I really get excited about aren't on the Ps2, and definitely not Xbox.

[TheGame]

Originally posted by Mushlafa
the game.. what is it about metroid you hate so much man? I didnt get much time to play it but from what i played i seemed to really like it.... i only got up to that big plant boss with the solar panel things :unsure:

lol, well, if you liked it to that point there is no opinion I could give you to make you thnk any different. Personally, for a game that got damn near perfect reviews, I found the begining to be the lamest excuse for a game ever.

Keep in mind, I'm a fan of sports, fighting, Racing, and FPS games... meaning I'm also a fan of instant action and satisfaction. If a game offers less than instant action, and any less than pulling me deep into the story from the gate, I won't like the game, period.

I can hang with long games like FFX and Xenogears and Zelda because they get me wrapped up into the storyline, and at the same time offer fun gameplay. While Metroid from the gate offerd neither to me.

I have heard many times "Keep playing deeper into the game, then you will like it!" If I don't like how the game feels, or the story, I have no reason to move any farther into a game. In metroid's case I dislike the concept, gameplay, and story, so in conclusion I don't like the game.

I rented it twice, and even got it for free with my new platnum GCN, and it never once made me crack a smile or entertain me to the least bit. Just my opinion.

[TheGame]

Originally posted by bobcat
You have to understand that different people have different opinions.

Thank you.

For me there are Ps2 games that I really like, but when I compare them with Nintendo's exclusives (Zelda/Metroid/Mario Sunshine) they seem kinda at the "pretty good" level. But the games I really get excited about aren't on the Ps2, and definitely not Xbox.

Well, as far as exclusives that got me excited from the gate, I gotta go with Ps2. There are simply more sequals to great Psx games released.

If Nintendo kept the right developers and released the right games, I think hell I know I would be more excited about GCN.

[Perfect Stu]

Originally posted by bobcat
For me there are Ps2 games that I really like, but when I compare them with Nintendo's exclusives (Zelda/Metroid/Mario Sunshine) they seem kinda at the "pretty good" level.

Mario Sunshine is crap compared to Ratchet and Clank...have you played that?

[Crono]

Originally posted by TheGame
Well, as far as exclusives that got me excited from the gate, I gotta go with Ps2. There are simply more sequals to great Psx games released.


That = one of the reasons I love PS2's games so such.

[The Duggler]

you are a funny one... yeah, I think Zelda will be a new level of gaming this generation, but metroid? LMAO Damn right Metroid! Your personal taste don't lower the quality of that game. It's like wine you know, you can have people disgusted by the taste of the finest wine, but it's still the best bottle of wine out there. Metroid's quality is above anything that the PS2 and XBox have and will produce. And that's a fact not an opinion.

[Crono]

Originally posted by Ranzid
Damn right Metroid! Your personal taste don't lower the quality of that game. It's like wine you know, you can have people disgusted by the taste of the finest wine, but it's still the best bottle of wine out there. Metroid's quality is above anything that the PS2 and XBox have and will produce. And that's a fact not an opinion.

How is it a fact when everyone has a different opinion? You don't make sense. And... if you want to know MY opinion, Xenosaga, Suikoden III, and Kingdom Hearts, among other PS2 games, totally RAPE Metroid Prime, SMS and pretty much any GCN games in terms of quality.

[DarkMaster]

Originally posted by Ranzid
Metroid's quality is above anything that the PS2 and XBox have and will produce. And that's a fact not an opinion.
that is an extremely biased opinion. For one thing, PS2 and Xbox have games that match and/or beat the quality of Metroid Prime. And secondly, how would you know that PS2 and Xbox will not have future games with better quality than MP?

Your's is an opinion, and an unfair one. You cant base fact on something that doesnt exist right now (like future games).

[TheGame]

Originally posted by Ranzid
Damn right Metroid! Your personal taste don't lower the quality of that game. It's like wine you know, you can have people disgusted by the taste of the finest wine, but it's still the best bottle of wine out there. Metroid's quality is above anything that the PS2 and XBox have and will produce. And that's a fact not an opinion.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

C'mon man... you can't be serious.



First of all, you can't mix opinions with facts... you either use one or another. If you want to use facts let's use some. Like the fact that Metroid Prime isn't even the best selling game on it's console. And what's with the future predictions? How do you know if Metroid will ever be topped or not? Nothing in the future is a fact.

[TheGame]

Originally posted by Crono
How is it a fact when everyone has a different opinion? You don't make sense. And... if you want to know MY opinion, Xenosaga, Suikoden III, and Kingdom Hearts, among other PS2 games, totally RAPE Metroid Prime, SMS and pretty much any GCN games in terms of quality.

Exactly, it's all opinion, no mixing facts...

I would take plenty of games over Metroid prime this generation.

[DeathsHand]

I agree that PS2 has more quality games than NGC... *shrugs*

But I think maybe TheGame didn't give Metroid much of a chance... I agree that the beginning of the game was quite boring (Infact when I first played, when I first arrived on the planet I stopped playing for awhile simply because it wasn't fun at all up until that point... Even early on the planet wasn't very fun), but it got better...... Just not as good as some of these people here say, IMO ;)

[The Duggler]

What about the quality of the programming? The time put into it? the bugs? Maximization of the hardware use? THose kind of facts.

And yes, you are right, I can't tell the future and predict if games are going to be better of not, but from what I saw (don't get me wrong here I love some of the PS2 games out there and I own a PS2) I don't think it's going to happen.

[GameKinG]

I imagine they will have a shortage, or at least use more then one planned shipment to meet demand. Unless they anticipated this.

[Shadow_Link]

Originally posted by Perfect Stu
Mario Sunshine is crap compared to Ratchet and Clank...have you played that?

I have........ :unsure:

My opinion is totally different from yours though. For me, R&C was good, but upto the 90th shine or so in SMS, R&C can't touch SMS.


Oh and DsH, do you have any 'proof' that TWW is selling like it is only because of the bonus disk? From what I remember, you preordered Zelda because of TWW correct? You never really saw the big deal with it did you? And anyway, that argument doesn't stand up anyway, because most places ask you to put down $15 for the preorder, and they give you a bonus disk. Now if anyone wanted to return TWW, sure they could keep the onus disk, but they would have still spent $15. Now why would they do that for an old game? Then there is the 250,000 or so preorders that were placed before people knew about the bonus disk/the official campaign. Sure the bonus disk did help raise those figures somewhat, but there's no denying that many preordered the game for TWW itself.

Besides, so what if supposedly, the only reason TWW was selling because of the bonus disk? It IS selling after all?

[Mushlafa]

Originally posted by Ranzid
What about the quality of the programming? The time put into it? the bugs? Maximization of the hardware use? THose kind of facts.



Its about how fun the game is.. not how purty it is.. otherwise TheGame would have liked it more :p... i dont care how good the programming is if the game is bad....

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by Shadow_Link
Oh and DsH, do you have any 'proof' that TWW is selling like it is only because of the bonus disk? From what I remember, you preordered Zelda because of TWW correct? You never really saw the big deal with it did you? And anyway, that argument doesn't stand up anyway, because most places ask you to put down $15 for the preorder, and they give you a bonus disk. Now if anyone wanted to return TWW, sure they could keep the onus disk, but they would have still spent $15. Now why would they do that for an old game? Then there is the 250,000 or so preorders that were placed before people knew about the bonus disk/the official campaign. Sure the bonus disk did help raise those figures somewhat, but there's no denying that many preordered the game for TWW itself.

I never said it was selling this good ONLY because of the bonus disc (at least I don't think I did), I meant that it's probably playing a big factor... As for the whole pre-order, return WW and keep bonus disc... You can't return the game without returning the bonus disc... At least that's how it is on ebgames.com... And if you returned the game, you would have got your 15 dollars back anyways...

But yeah I pre-ordered WW way back when EBgames started taking pre-orders... long before they announced the bonus disc dealy...

[Shadow_Link]

Originally posted by DeathsHand
I never said it was selling this good ONLY because of the bonus disc (at least I don't think I did), I meant that it's probably playing a big factor... As for the whole pre-order, return WW and keep bonus disc... You can't return the game without returning the bonus disc... At least that's how it is on ebgames.com... And if you returned the game, you would have got your 15 dollars back anyways...

You just proved my point ;).

But yeah I pre-ordered WW way back when EBgames started taking pre-orders... long before they announced the bonus disc dealy...

Like I said :D.

Oh, you're right about the preorder thing though, I kind of misread what you typed earlier:D.

But anyway.

How about predictions for how much this game will sell worldwide? There are roughly around 9-10 million Cubes worldwide (not toally sure, could it be 8-9?), with Zelda yet to be released in Europe (Not forgetting the US either :D).