NHL Trade Deadline

[Joeiss]

Well, the deadline is under 24 hours away... And there have been several trades today, and in the past couple of days. This are suspected to get intense in the management world of the NHL, so it will be interesting to see what develops before 3:00pm tomorrow afternoon, which is when the deadline occurs.

Here are the most recent trades. I only posted the teams who were the "winners" of the trades, because there was no point in listing all the teams involved, lol.

Toronto Maple Leafs

Acquisitions : Owen Nolan, Glen Wesley

Gave Up : Alyn McCauley, Brad Boyes, a 2003 first-round draft pick, second-round pick in the 2004 NHL entry draft.

Pheonoix Coytotes

Acquisitions : Brad Ference

Gave Up : Darcy Hordichuk, 2003 second-round draft pick.


Colorado Avalanche

Acquisitions : Bryan Marchment

Gave Up : a third-round and fifth-round draft choice in the 2003 NHL Entry Draft.

Philadelphia Flyers

Acquisitions : Claude Lapointe

Gave Up : a fifth-round draft pick this year

New York Islanders

Acquisitions : Randy Robitaille

Gave Up : fifth round draft pick in this June's draft.

Nashville Predators

Acquisitions : Wade Flaherty

Gave Up : Pascal Trepanier

Otawa Senators

Acquisitions : Rob Ray

Gave Up : Draft Pick

Dallas Stars

Acquisitions : Lyle Odelein, Stu Barnes

Gave Up : Sami Helenius, conditional draft pick, Mike Ryan and a second-round draft pick.


New Jersey Devils

Acquisitions : Grant Marshall and Richard Smehlik

Gave Up : a fourth-round 2003 pick, conditional draft pick



Also.. Most recent talks are about Dougy Gilmour heading from the Montreal Canadians to either the Toronto Maple Leafs or the Dallas Stars.

More news as it happens.

[Perfect Stu]

Finally the Leafs make the strongest trade-deadline moves...

We have Owen Nolan, and he wants to play here. He was playing uninspired hockey in San Jose, didn't like it there and was being labelled as 'trade bait' for a long time. Nobody likes that. Before Toronto got him, Don Cherry (hockey guru) asked Nolan if he'd like to come to Toronto. Nolan said "Would I LIKE to?!?" You can tell that he's happy now, too...scoring two goals in his Leafs debut and smiling ear to ear as the fans in Toronto have given him a VERY warm welcoming.

Glen Wesley also solidifies the defense. He'll be in the first or second pair, most likely, unless Quinn wants to spread the talent amongst all 3 pairs. We now have 4 solid d-men (McCabe, Kaberle, Svhela and now Wesley) which will help us a lot in the playoff run and especially the playoffs.

We didn't give up a whole lot, either, for those two players. I liked McCauly for his defensive talent and hard work, though :( He proved himself last year as a valuable playoff forward. Boyes has the potential to be a great player...and first and second round draft picks are always valuable.

All in all, however, the Leafs look to make a good run for the Cup this year, like they did last year (except this year they may actually be somewhat healthy ;)). GO LEAFS GO

[Joeiss]

Yes, Stu. Our defence is going to be much better than last year. Now instead of juggling with only 3 solid defensemen, we have 4.

And... If Leafs can get 1 or 2 more strong forwards... I think we have a great chance in winning the cup this year.

[nWoCHRISnWo]

I think Gilmour is now a Dallas Star, and Amonte is now a Flyer, I gotta check some sources though to make sure.

On Nolan: I predicted he would score two goals in his first game as a Leaf right when he was traded to them. Doesn't he just look like he always belonged to the Maple Leafs?

And Joeiss... "If Leafs can get 1 or 2 more strong forwards... I think we have a great chance in winning the cup this year."

They do have a CHANCE, but you have to look at the whole picture. They might not even be the best team in the East in the play-offs, and even if they do make it to the finals, whoever makes it from the West will likely have a better team. Vancouver, Dallas, Colorado, and Detroit would all beat Toronto I'd assume. Dallas has everything Toronto has and more of it. They are just plain stacked, while Colorado got hot at the right time and have all the experience and players to win the Cup again. Detroit hasn't changed much from last year, and Vancouver just kicks ass this year. Nobody can stop Bertuzzi-Morisson-Naslund, and the rest of the team isn't exactly a push-over either.

Either way, I hope the Leafs win the cup assuming the Oilers don't. :rolleyes:

Edit- Oh yeah, and with Lumme on the team, I wouldn't be too sure of anything. He's a one-man screw up machine. Every game it seems he coughs up the puck and gives the other team a break-away or some kinda great chance.

[Perfect Stu]

I heard the Leafs are still after Aaron Miller :eek:

and Nolan does belong in Toronto...he's the type of player that Toronto fans respect the most...he grew up in southern Ontario...it's just the perfect fit.

As for Lumme...if the Leafs can sign one more defenceman, I think he'll be a healthy scratch. Their 6th D-man, I'm guessing, would be Belak because of his toughness and fighting ability (crucial for the rest of the season and to set the tone in the playoffs).

Could you imagine a forechecking line of Roberts - Green - Nolan? Or a scoring line of Mogilny - Sundin - Nolan?

I think the Leafs line-up should be as follows:

Roberts - Sundin - Hoglund <
Mogilny - Antropov - Nolan <first two lines can score and forecheck
Tucker - Green - Corson <nice checking line
Renberg - Reichel - Domi <very nice fourth line

Kaberle - Svhela <solid d-wise, and can score
Wesley - McCabe <very nice second pair
Jackman - Belak <toughness

Belfour <ownage

the following can sit their asses down:
-Fitzgerald
-Healey
-Berg
-Lumme

[The Germanator]

Woohoo, Flyers do indeed have Amonte now...All we gave up were a couple of picks and a youngster too....I'm not familiar with Amonte, but the Flyers need a scorer and he and Roenick work GREAT together...hopefully this'll bring some punch to our lineup.

[Joeiss]

Yeah, Amonte got traded.. I am not sure why Phoenix dealt him, though. I mean, he was the guy who was supposed to sell tickets for the next four years. Oh well.. Good pick up for the Flyers, which is a negative for us Leaf fans.

[The Germanator]

Leafs v. FLyers would be a tasty first round match-up...but don't worry, the Flyers would lose. See, we have a hard time doing this thing called "scoring" in the "playoffs"....:unsure:

[Joeiss]

LOL.... did they get a goal last year? I forget.

[The Germanator]

I think we got 2!...but we were shut out from games 2-4 I believe...

[Perfect Stu]

Originally posted by The Germanator
I think we got 2!...but we were shut out from games 2-4 I believe...

didn't it go like this?:

G1: 1-0 Flyers (1 goal)
G2: Ottawa Shutout (1 goal, still)
G3: Ottawa Shutout (1 goal...still)
G4: Ottawa Shutout (1 goal...:unsure: )
G5: Ottawa Shutout (.........:()

[Null]

Wings get Mathieu Schneider

NHL.com

The Detroit Red Wings took a huge step toward defending their Stanley Cup crown Tuesday, landing veteran puck-moving defenseman Mathieu Schneider from Los Angeles for two draft picks, forward Sean Avery and defenseman Maxim Kuznetsov.

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Schneider, an underrated defender, will give the Red Wings a second option on the power-play unit after Norris Trophy-winner Nicklas Lidstrom, who has 55 points this season.

Schneider's arrival trumps Colorado's recent acquisition of Bryan Marchment from San Jose in the West, as well as Toronto's recent acquisition of Glen Wesley from Carolina in the East. Richard Smehlik (to New Jersey) and Dmitry Yushkevich (to Philadelphia) are other big names on the blue line to switch teams this month.

But, Detroit paid the heftiest price so far in obtaining Schneider.



i liked Avery. but i think i wanted another D more. so hey, sounds good to me.

[Joeiss]

Leafs get Phil Hously and Dougy G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hously is such a great defenseman, and this will most likely be his last or second last year in the NHL. This gives us 5 solid defencemen... WOOO!!!!!!! AND DOUGY G!!!!!!! THE PASSION RETURNS, BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Null]

nice to see Toronto actually really active in trading. i dont usually remember them making big deals come this time.

[Stonecutter]

Now wait a second. People are recieveing compensation in the form of picks in the "entry draft?" WTF? don't tell me the NHL is expanding AGAIN. Nashville, columbus and atlanta don't need teams, the last thing the league needs is for the talent to get watered down even further.

[Perfect Stu]

Originally posted by Stonecutter
Now wait a second. People are recieveing compensation in the form of picks in the "entry draft?" WTF? don't tell me the NHL is expanding AGAIN. Nashville, columbus and atlanta don't need teams, the last thing the league needs is for the talent to get watered down even further.

NHL entry draft is just like any other sports draft...

It'll be nice to see Gilmour in the old Blue and White one more time...he was my favourite player for quite a while...I still have his jersey (size small...I was like 10 :p)

Phil Housley will help out the PowerPlay...and it'll also force Quinn to bench someone like Berg (thank god)

[Null]

Originally posted by Stonecutter
Now wait a second. People are recieveing compensation in the form of picks in the "entry draft?" WTF? don't tell me the NHL is expanding AGAIN. Nashville, columbus and atlanta don't need teams, the last thing the league needs is for the talent to get watered down even further.


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umm, just... :hmm:



on a side note..... Blues Trade for Osgood..... now we can play against our old friend ozzie more often. hehehe

[Joeiss]

You do not know how excited I am about the Leafs right now.

And you know what? The first round matchup between the Flyers and the Leafs is going to be PHENOMINAL!

[Null]

oh pshhhh.... flyers will only be able to score Half a goal in a first round with leafs...



dont know how they can only score half a goal? trust me. flyers can find a way. =D


ok ok. hehe, seriously. flyers made a great deal in going for Amonte. good player. will help thier scoring. Flyers will be much better off this year. as will the leafs. if they can keep the injuries away

[Joeiss]

A Leafs vs. Wings final would be spectacular.

[Null]

Yea, Original 6 matchups in playoffs are awsome.


Would be a lot of fun for the 2 cities too.... being neighbors to each other. just hours away. could imagine fans driving back and forth from each place....

each city putting thier teams signs up on thier side of the border. hehe.

would be fun. i miss playing toronto as much as we used to when they were west. Altho if another team ever gets added to West... Detroit would be next to move to the east... woo! hehe

[Seth]

I don't think aquiring gilmour was the wisest move. I don't see how he's going to add much spark to the leafs. Douggy should've stayed in Montreal.

[Null]

Leafs dont need spark. They need skill and Experience.

they got plenty of that now. experience REALLY helps in playoffs. experience will lead a team. regular season and playoffs are very differnt. as many teams find out.

[Seth]

Well, imo the leafs aren't lacking in the experience department. Sundin isn't a rookie anymore. Also, doug's good, but not that good. I just don't think he'll be as productive on the leafs as in montreal. There's a lot of good guys on the leafs now brimming with talent and spark. imo it just wasn't the best trade. Leafs don't really need him. ...montreal does. ...and it's not like the leafs need doug to bring back some fan support.

[Null]

sometimes teams will make a trade just for a Playoff run.

like we had wendel Clark one time and didnt see him anymore. and theres been others. They dont work out they dont.

But one thing the leafs are really working at is Depth. some of the better teams dont have this as much as the others. to be able to put out your 4th line and have it as good as first and 2nd lines on other teams is absolutly HUGE in the playoffs.

and the leafs have added depth as well as experience... IMO they made good trades.

[nWoCHRISnWo]

Originally posted by bouncer_agb
imo it just wasn't the best trade.

For the Leafs, it was a great trade. It was just a 6th round pick wasn't it for Gilmour, wasn't it?

And trade deadline day isn't as fun when your favourite teams are the Penguins and Oilers. :( The Pens pretty much traded away their team by now, and the Oilers aren't getting better.

[Seth]

Pens and oilers:(


Anson Carter and Niinimaa. Man, that's some good talent gone.
Well, i think Montreal should've kept gilmore...he would've helped them in the playoffs. But whatever.

[Joeiss]

Originally posted by bouncer_agb
I don't think aquiring gilmour was the wisest move.
It wasn't a wise move? HA! You must have absolutely no clue how much us Leaf fans love Dougy G. He is a hero here in Toronto. It is a wise move because a) Leafs did not give up much, only a bad draft pick, b) Leafs needed at least one more forward for the playoffs, and Dougy is just the man for the job, and c) Dougy wants to finish his career in Toronto and he has one more chance at winning the cup.


I don't see how he's going to add much spark to the leafs.
Dougy will add spark in two ways : By scoring goals, and by creating atmosphere in the stands. All Dougy has to do it touch the puck, and the crowd will go crazy. This will get the team even more pumped up than they allready are. And if Dougy scores! WOWZERS. I really do not think you will hear the Leaf fans cheer any louder. And this guy is their old captain, and many of the Leaf players have high respect for him and have allready played with him on another team. Trust me. Dougy G will spark the Leafs, even if he doesn't score much.


Douggy should've stayed in Montreal.

Why? So he could play golf during the playoffs, and then retire in the offseason? Montreal has a chance at making the playoffs, but I really do not think that they will beat out the Rangers/Islanders/Panters. And, this would have been Dougy's last season in the NHL if he would have stayed with the Habs. Now that he is a Leaf, he might play another season (or two at the MAX), depending on how well the Leafs do in the playoffs.

[Seth]

Well joeiss,
I guess i just don't see how gilmour will add more enthusiasm to toronto's fans....I think they're at the max already. Gilmour's a good addition to the leafs...but i'm talking more from a montreal point of view. They got jewed in this deal. They also lost their playoff leader. As much as it's nice for gilmour since his career's almost over, Montreal needs to make the playoffs too. Gilmour's a loss. But ya, from that point it's good that gilmour got traded. He needs a ring.

[Joeiss]

He allready has a ring.



And... I really do not think that Montreal will make the playoffs. And if Dougy stayed with Montreal, and they did make the playoffs, BOOM! He makes 1.2 million dollars. How so? Well, his contract stated that if they made the playoffs, then he is owed $500,000 and then he gets $700,000 in the offseason just for retiring or something odd like that. I know that Montreal isn't really strapped for cash, but that is just extra money down the drain.

[Joeiss]

www.tsn.ca compiled a list of trades that were close to hapening, but fell throught. Here is the fully story :


Alexei Zhitnik asked to be traded but the Buffalo Sabres didn't get an offer they liked enough to accept.

Sean Burke was sought after but the Phoenix Coyotes didn't get an offer they liked enough to pull the trigger.

Teppo Numminen was targeted by Detroit but he invoked a no-trade clause in his contract to remain with the Phoenix Coyotes.

Damphousse has a no-trade clause but gave the San Jose Sharks permission to strike a deal with the Avalanche. He sat out practice Tuesday and was prepared to pack his gear and head for Denver.

The deal fell through when Avs GM Pierre Lacroix asked Sharks GM Dean Lombardi to pick up $1 million US of the $4-million salary Damphousse can earn next season. Lombardi opted not to subsidize the Avs and the deal collapsed.

The Vancouver Canucks also were interested in Damphousse, and GM Brian Burke was close to a deal before the focus switched to the Avs. Talks collapsed when Damphousse demanded a contract extension from Burke in exchange for waiving the no-trade clause, the Vancouver Sun and Province reports.

Zhitnik, disenchanted by trades that stripped Stu Barnes, Rob Ray and Chris Gratton from the Sabres' roster, told GM Darcy Regier after practice Tuesday that he wanted to be traded. The defenceman sat and waited but the offers were deemed unacceptable by Regier so Zhitnik remains a disgruntled Sabre.

New Jersey GM Lou Lamoriello was reported to have made a strong pitch to Lombardi for Teemu Selanne but the Finnish Flash has a no-trade clause and preferred to remain on the West Coast.

Philadelphia GM Bob Clarke tried to get the Kings to send him defenceman Mathieu Schneider, but GM Dave Taylor opted for the better offer from Detroit GM Ken Holland.

``Bob gave us an offer but we already had a better offer from Detroit,'' said Taylor.

Clarke was reluctant to trade away prospects.

``We thought we had a shot at Schneider but . . . it is one of those deals in which you like to get the player but if you don't you're glad to keep the guys involved, the young players involved,'' he said.

Clarke also bid for Zhitnik. Regier asked for what Clarke, again, deemed to be too much. Clarke's discussions with Lombardi about Mike Ricci and Scott Thornton also were fruitless.

St. Louis coveted Burke before settling on Chris Osgood in a trade with the New York Islanders.

``We said from the start it would take an offer that would have to knock our socks off but it didn't even come close to that,'' said Coyotes GM Mike Barnett. ``It didn't even knock a shoe off.''

``Bottom line, we weren't comfortable giving up what he would cost,'' said Blues GM Larry Pleau.

Toronto forward Darcy Tucker was among players who had a suspicion they might be traded but didn't go anywhere. They spent nervous hours before the 3 p.m. EST deadline.

``In 15 minutes I can finally sleep again,'' Tucker told the Toronto Sun just before the cut-off time.

Lamoriello tried to trade suspended rookie Mike Danton but that didn't happen either.

``He told me he was trying to trade Mike right up until the deadline,'' agent Dave Frost told the Newark Star-Ledger. ``I'm going to take 24 hours to talk to people around the league and find out how sincere he was.''

Those in the media critiquing the deals offered candid assessments.

After Edmonton GM Kevin Lowe traded leading scorer Anson Carter and top defenceman Janne Niinimaa, Edmonton Sun columnist Terry Jones had this terse evaluation: ``On the surface, this looks like the dumbest double-deadline deal in the history of hockey.''

After the Leafs dealt for 39-year-old veterans Doug Gilmour and Phil Housley, after getting Owen Nolan and Glen Wesley days earlier, Toronto Sun columnist Al Strachan offered: ``With their trade deadline deals, the Maple Leafs have put together a team that, on paper, has enough talent to earn consideration as a genuine Stanley Cup contender.''

Traded players were quickly adapting to new surroundings.

``I haven't been able to wipe the smile off my face since I got traded,'' said defenceman Lyle Odelein after playing his first game with Dallas on Tuesday night.

``A chance to play with a guy like (Mike) Modano is a thrill,'' said newly-acquired Stars forward Stu Barnes.

Former teammates adjusted to seeing friends now skating on other teams.

``It's a real sad day,'' Sabres veteran James Patrick said after the departure of Barnes. ``It's just an indication of the economics of today.

``He statistically had a tough year but he led by example and gave everything. It's a big void.''

Steve Thomas was happy to join an Anaheim team headed for the playoffs. He was already in the California city with the Blackhawks for their game Wednesday night against the Mighty Ducks.

``I'm ecstatic,'' the 39-year-old winger said before skating against his former teammates. ``This might be my last chance to kick at it.''


Link : http://tsn.ca/news_stories/33126.html

[Seth]

Wow, sucks to be gilmour right now.

[The Germanator]

Amonte looked great in his first game for Philly, 1 goal and 1 assist..and Leclair came back and looked as good as ever...:)
Not saying this means anything, but it's good to see our offense step it up every once in awhile.