Say hello to free Xbox games

[bobcat]

My friend got his Xbox modded so that you can copy Xbox games on your Hard Drive. You have to buy a 5400 RPM IDE (I think IDE) drive and get your Xbox modded. Reason why 5400 RPM is coz it produces less energy (hence less heat).

I'm getting a 120GB HDD. I hope the mod allows you to defrag your drive though. But yeh it works :D

[Perfect Stu]

In other words you're too cheap to support an industry that supplies you with endless hours of entertainment...

Hopefully your Xbox will fight back, overheat, and light your carpet on fire :-o

[gekko]

LOL. Xbox fighting for justice :lol:

[Dyne]

I wonder what Bill thinks.

http://www.xbox.com/cms/images/news/midnightmadness/sim-midnightmadness-0009.jpg

...........well.... honestly, you should be ashamed of yourself. :sneaky:

[Tombor]

Eh I don't know what to think. I own a modded Xbox and use MAME-X a lot....

[Dyne]

Too bad.. you're missing out on Live. That's kind of a big thing to miss.

[Happydude]

i owuldn't mind missing out on live...but now that i know that you can get it modded...i want details...

[bobcat]

Originally posted by Dyne
Too bad.. you're missing out on Live. That's kind of a big thing to miss.
Not really. It's gaming online. I've already experienced it with my Pc. Counter Strike, Warcraft, Diablo etc.

Microsoft don't have Xbox Live here yet in Australia yet and god knows when we are getting it.

Let's c. 5 Xbox games @ $99 each. That's about $500. The mod costs me $300.

There's a saving :D

[bobcat]

Originally posted by Perfect Stu
In other words you're too cheap to support an industry that supplies you with endless hours of entertainment...

Hopefully your Xbox will fight back, overheat, and light your carpet on fire :-o

You shouldn't blame me. Simply follow the below bullets:-

* Firstly you should blame Microsoft for their console design and giving hackers the most obvious form of rorting the XBox (a hard drive and PC built architecture).

* Secondly you should blame the hackers themselves for coming up with this idea. A console that was just screaming out "hack me" for hackers

* Thirdly you should blame the government for the high prices of modern living in this day and age (well in Sydney anyway)

* Fourthly my boss. He needs to give me a payrise

* Then finally blame me, for being a person who wishes to save thousands of dollars at the expense of Microsoft and games developers who are a billion times richer than me.

Oh and I have tiles. It gets too hot in the summer for carpet.

[bobcat]

Originally posted by happydude666
i owuldn't mind missing out on live...but now that i know that you can get it modded...i want details... I'll let you know how it goes :D

[PuPPeT]

Originally posted by happydude666
i owuldn't mind missing out on live...but now that i know that you can get it modded...i want details...

Hate to tell you this but i have been using my modded xbox on live for over 6 weeks now and i get no problems at all with it. Infact any 3rd gen Mod chip works fine with Xbox live.

Chips like the X-ecuter2 and Xodus/Matrix work just fine with xbox live! :D

[Jonbo298]

They work fine now, but if MS finds a way to block any modded XBox's from using Live in the future, what will you do then? You can't really call and bitch to MS since they will just say "It's modded, we can't do anything about it:D". I've heard that the mod chips override the flash memory and if MS releases a patch that checks to make sure the flash memory is correct and if its not, they can say no, no, little billy:nono:

[PuPPeT]

Originally posted by Jonbo298
They work fine now, but if MS finds a way to block any modded XBox's from using Live in the future, what will you do then? You can't really call and bitch to MS since they will just say "It's modded, we can't do anything about it:D". I've heard that the mod chips override the flash memory and if MS releases a patch that checks to make sure the flash memory is correct and if its not, they can say no, no, little billy:nono:


Nope time for you to read up alittle m8! X-ecuter2 and most other 3rd gen mod chips do not add anying to the Xboxs bios the by pass it. And they have a switch to turn them off and lets face it, if there is no power going to a chip that does not mod the Xbox's bios how the hell is Microsoft going to find. Yep thats right there not going to the X-ecuter2 lite 2 as been out for a long time now and Microsoft has doen nothing about it why's that do you think cuss they can't maybe.

[Jonbo298]

Still, if MS does make a patch that can tell if your XBox is modded or not, what if you accidentally leave it on and go online with Live. Then MS can see your Mod, ban your XBox serial number and then your screwed until you get a normal one. But this is all theory, but more than possible to happen. Hell, you don't even need to be online and MS could check up on your XBox. As long as you have that cable in the back, MS could check up even when you're playing a non-Live game. But I might be wrong:unsure:

[bobcat]

Originally posted by Jonbo298
Still, if MS does make a patch that can tell if your XBox is modded or not, what if you accidentally leave it on and go online with Live. Then MS can see your Mod, ban your XBox serial number and then your screwed until you get a normal one. But this is all theory, but more than possible to happen. Hell, you don't even need to be online and MS could check up on your XBox. As long as you have that cable in the back, MS could check up even when you're playing a non-Live game. But I might be wrong:unsure:
Don't go online if you are worried that much. You are still saving a sh!tload of $$$$

[Perfect Stu]

Originally posted by bobcat
You shouldn't blame me. Simply follow the below bullets:-

* Firstly you should blame Microsoft for their console design and giving hackers the most obvious form of rorting the XBox (a hard drive and PC built architecture).

* Secondly you should blame the hackers themselves for coming up with this idea. A console that was just screaming out "hack me" for hackers

* Thirdly you should blame the government for the high prices of modern living in this day and age (well in Sydney anyway)

* Fourthly my boss. He needs to give me a payrise

* Then finally blame me, for being a person who wishes to save thousands of dollars at the expense of Microsoft and games developers who are a billion times richer than me.

Oh and I have tiles. It gets too hot in the summer for carpet.

Everything I just read is bullsh*t.

Microsoft and game developers owe you nothing. Why should you steal from them?

If you can't afford gaming, don't buy a system.

[Happydude]

Originally posted by Perfect Stu
Everything I just read is bullsh*t.

Microsoft and game developers owe you nothing. Why should you steal from them?

If you can't afford gaming, don't buy a system.

Stu...shut up, just cause your family is rich or you can afford anything doesn't mean that everyone around is the same, i would much rather save up for a car then spend money on games, when i know i can get them for free. hell, you'd probably do the same if each game costed $500...so don't go around blaming people for being cheap, cause it's the games that are expensive.


and Bobcat...PM me with the details please.

[Perfect Stu]

Originally posted by happydude666
Stu...shut up, just cause your family is rich or you can afford anything doesn't mean that everyone around is the same, i would much rather save up for a car then spend money on games, when i know i can get them for free. hell, you'd probably do the same if each game costed $500...so don't go around blaming people for being cheap, cause it's the games that are expensive.


and Bobcat...PM me with the details please.

LOL. My family is not rich. We're middle class. But I earned a good deal of money last year and can afford a handful of games this year. Developers put a lot of work into their games...they earn money and a living just like anyone else.

I guess you're saying that if you don't have the money, and you have the optorunity to steal, it's okay?

I figured hardcore gamers respected the hard work people put into their games...obviously you guys just wanna milk their efforts.

If you don't have the money to buy something (especially a luxury
like gaming) then you miss out. Get a job and earn some money if you want luxuries

oh, and one more thing

"so don't go around blaming people for being cheap, cause it's the games that are expensive"

that made no sense. not only are you cheap, but apparently you're of fairly low intelligence.

[tarakan69]

Big deal... my X-Box is chipped.

I buy games for 12 Euros... copies.

PS2... I buy only originals... why you may ask?? I don't want to support Microsoft but couldn't miss out Panzer Dragoon: Orta and JSRF.

Also bobcat it cost 120 euros for my chip... and the copies cost 12 Euros. Plus I can get USA and Jap X-Box games befoer they ever hit retail here in Europe.

[Professor S]

I work and live by myself. I make $32,000, which ould make me LOW middle class, if even that, and I can't STAND hackers and people who mod their consoles for free games. You are scum. You care nothing for the gaming industry that supplies you with so much.

Do you think you're only cheating MS? WRONG. MS is losing money now. You're hurting every small house developer on the market. Small houses drive the advances and originality in his industry. The problem is, if their first titles don't do well, their investors pull out and the company DIES. If pirating games becomes a common occurance on the XBox, you could easily see a house like Big Blue Box, whon are developing Fable, go under. Good for you.

As for it being MSs FAULT that people want to hack their console, ARE YOU F**KING KIDDING ME??? IS IT A LIQUOR STORE'S FAULT THAT THEY GET ROBBED??? ITS THE SAME THING!!!

If you want to get more games than what you mommy and daddy will buy you, GET A JOB LIKE A RESPONSIBLE HUMAN BEING. There is no excuse.

bobcat, I'm shocked by your stance on this. You should be ashamed of youself considering your standing in these forums. Poor show.

[Joeiss]

I am getting a job starting May. Then I will buy games with my own money. Up until now, I have been living off brithday and Christmas money, lol.

[tarakan69]

Originally posted by The Strangler
bobcat, I'm shocked by your stance on this. You should be ashamed of youself considering your standing in these forums. Poor show.

Go Captian America!!
Anyway get real... 32,000?? Low end?? That's for Ameica... Middle class in Europe is 20,000- 25,000 euros per year.

Also I really like the fact that I get my piracy copy when the game comes out in Japan...(the day it comes out in Japan) and get my piracy copy of USA games (because you need to understand some of your games) like 3-4 months they are officialy released. here

I had what over 60 dreamcast games... 20+ X-Box games. and umm 12 PS2 games (all original)

There, sue me:roll:

EDIT: Got over 150+ PC games... copies of course... not to mention over 200 music CDs.

[Happydude]

Originally posted by tarakan69
Go Captian America!!
Anyway get real... 32,000?? Low end?? That's for Ameica... Middle class in Europe is 20,000- 25,000 euros per year.

Also I really like the fact that I get my piracy copy when the game comes out in Japan...(the day it comes out in Japan) and get my piracy copy of USA games (because you need to understand some of your games) like 3-4 months they are officialy released. here

I had what over 60 dreamcast games... 20+ X-Box games. and umm 12 PS2 games (all original)

There, sue me:roll:

EDIT: Got over 150+ PC games... copies of course... not to mention over 200 music CDs.

damn man...i understand not having alot of money for games...but even i wouldn't have all that...stu had a good point, if you don't have enough mony for games, stealing is still wrong...i mean, it's ok to get 1-5 (IMO) but 20?!...


and strangler...$32,000 for a person living by himself is a sh*tload of money...

[Bond]

I always knew bobcat was cheap...

but this cheap? Wow, that's pathetic.

[Joeiss]

Originally posted by happydude666
and strangler...$32,000 for a person living by himself is a sh*tload of money...

It is okay.... But rent, bills, tax, car, gas, food, g/f (maybe), beer, weed.... it gets expensive.

[bobcat]

Everything you read is bullsh!t? C'mon :rolleyes:

BTW I have all 3 consoles, so I can afford gaming. I can afford to buy $100 games. But why would I do that when I have the opportunity to get games for free? I know of a few people who've done it.

Seriously. With the money I save from this, I can do a lot of other things.

I consider this a saving. If you wish to spend money on these games even if you don't have to, by all means go ahead.

I'm sure Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo really care for consumers. They don't give a sh!t about you guys, they don't care if you enjoy your games, they just want your money. You guys are acting as if games/console companies really care for consumers.

I bought a Psx for $700 AUST, I bought a Ps2 for $750 AUST, I bought a Saturn for $800 AUST. I think it's about time I reap some benefits from these multi million/billion dollar companies.

[bobcat]

whoops

[Null]

well hell.

with the money i could save from going out and stealing someones car... i coudl do a ton of stuff.!!! hey, good thing i have LOGICAL reasoning to justify stupid actions. =D


*goes out and searches for the big picture of the guy from chips pointing and saying "YOUR GAY!"*

[bobcat]

Originally posted by Bond
I always knew bobcat was cheap...

but this cheap? Wow, that's pathetic.
Can I ask a question?

How did you know I was always cheap?

[bobcat]

Originally posted by The Strangler
I work and live by myself. I make $32,000, which ould make me LOW middle class, if even that, and I can't STAND hackers and people who mod their consoles for free games. You are scum. You care nothing for the gaming industry that supplies you with so much.



I'm not a hacker. Gaming industry don't give a stuff about us. They supply me with what they make their money off........games. That don't make them "saints". It's their job. They get payed to do so. Times are changing.


Do you think you're only cheating MS? WRONG. MS is losing money now. You're hurting every small house developer on the market. Small houses drive the advances and originality in his industry. The problem is, if their first titles don't do well, their investors pull out and the company DIES. If pirating games becomes a common occurance on the XBox, you could easily see a house like Big Blue Box, whon are developing Fable, go under. Good for you.



I understand that small house developers get hurt. But it's either them or me. If I can get away with getting free games, then I think it's worth it.

As for it being MSs FAULT that people want to hack their console, ARE YOU F**KING KIDDING ME??? IS IT A LIQUOR STORE'S FAULT THAT THEY GET ROBBED??? ITS THE SAME THING!!!

Didn't say that. Basically I said that the Xbox is the console out of all next gen consoles that is most prone to hacking. Maybe they should've invested less money into marketing and more into anti-piracy. If MS truly believed that hackers were going to be a problem, then they would have obviously put more money into anti piracy for the Xbox (maybe even ditching the Hard Drive). But they chose not to.

If you want to get more games than what you mommy and daddy will buy you, GET A JOB LIKE A RESPONSIBLE HUMAN BEING. There is no excuse.

I should get a job..................I already have a job. But if I can get free games, even if it's at the expense of small house gaming companies, then so be it. They don't care about me, why should I care about them?

bobcat, I'm shocked by your stance on this. You should be ashamed of youself considering your standing in these forums. Poor show.

You are entitled to your opinion. As I am mine. I still think it's high time I got some free stuff for all the money I've contributed to gaming. For all the small house developers I have helped through the tough times. For contributing +1 to the sales of the GC, Ps2, Xbox, NES, SNES, Megadrive, SMS, Neo Geo, Neo Geo CD, GBA, GB, GB Color, C64, Amiga, Amstrad, Mega CD and the hundreds of games I've purchased. What incentives have I got as a result of ALL my purchases?? NONE! I payed for what I got, and that's basically it.

Don't give me this "how can you do such a thing. They give you years of entertainment and you just steal from them". That is a load of crap (especially in this day and age). It's their job. They get PAYED to do it.

Just to get the record straight I haven't modded my Xbox, but I don't see what the problem is in me doing so. Especially after all I've contributed to the gaming industry ever since I was a youngsta. And I can't take responsibility for other people's actions, so don't give me this "what if everyone started modding their Xboxes" crap.

:D

[BlueFire]

I think you people should lay off bobcat. I can see his stance on this.

[Null]

really there is only 1 stance. dispite twisted opintions or reasons you attempt to say to justifty it.

its stealing. all the pain, agrivation. frustration someone goes thro programing all these things. and your just adding to the millions who steal it from them.

its sad. its stupid. its wrong. Wrong is wrong. doesnt matter how you try and make yourself feel better by saying stupid reasons.

[bobcat]

Originally posted by BLueFire
I think you people should lay off bobcat. I can see his stance on this.
THANK YOU!

[Bond]

Originally posted by bobcat
Can I ask a question?

How did you know I was always cheap?
It was a J-O-K-E.

And I'm sure that if you were in the videogaming industry your thoughts would be quiet different.

[Happydude]

bobby...gimme some details on this please...PM me...

and as he said...everyone is entitled to their own opinion...so you guys gotta lay off a little, if you don't agree with him, just say so...but dont start complaining and stuff...

[bobcat]

Originally posted by happydude666
bobby...gimme some details on this please...PM me...

and as he said...everyone is entitled to their own opinion...so you guys gotta lay off a little, if you don't agree with him, just say so...but dont start complaining and stuff...
No worries. When I find out more I'll let you no

[Null]

Originally posted by happydude666
and as he said...everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

so i could go to your house. break in. rob you blind. taking everything you have......

come on here and say its ok, cuz i save money this way.

Then say im intitled to my opinion?

;)

[bobcat]

Originally posted by Null
so i could go to your house. break in. rob you blind. taking everything you have......

come on here and say its ok, cuz i save money this way.

Then say im intitled to my opinion?

;)
:rolleyes:

[Null]

Originally posted by bobcat
:rolleyes:

my thoughts exactly on your first post.


Stealing is stealing my friend. doesnt matter how its done. how much its done. which way its done, or how much is stolen.

its still stealing.

[Bond]

Originally posted by Null
my thoughts exactly on your first post.


Stealing is stealing my friend. doesnt matter how its done. how much its done. which way its done, or how much is stolen.

its still stealing.
Wow, for once I actually agree with Null.

I mean, you can spin it anyway you want bobcat. But at the end of the day you are breaking the law and stealing from companies. You can make excuses all you want, but it's the truth. As long as you can live with it I guess it's fine by me. But what if it was your job? What if your life was dependent on videogame sales? I'm sure you would be strongly against it.

You are stealing people's hard earned work, and that's a fact.

[BreakABone]

Originally posted by Bond
It was a J-O-K-E.

And I'm sure that if you were in the videogaming industry your thoughts would be quiet different.

Well, I'm glad that Bond finally admitted he was a joke, truer words were never spoken...:p :D


EDIT: I meant to say Bond is the coolest guy this side of BreakABone.

[bobcat]

I'm not stealing. I haven't done it, i was just merely suggesting how it could benefit myself :sneaky:

Obviously this topic has offended some people. So I won't continue this any further. Thanks for all your input, and I have considered all of your arguments. But at the end of the day, what somebody doesn't know won't kill them.

:D

*looks for "close topic button"*

[Null]

Originally posted by Bond
Wow, for once I actually agree with Null.


*swings watch back and forth infront of Bond's Face*

you do not agree with null......you do not agree with null....you will eat bananas and fall in love with BaB.....you do not agree with null...

:sneaky:

[PuPPeT]

Oh come on ypu people are trying to tell me you have never copyed a film off TV and not deleted it. Or copyed a music type or CD off a friend! There all the same form of Stealing!!!

Ok I will say it i do copy games every now and again, I don't see why i should have to wait so long for PDO (which i must say F***ing rocks, so i will buy it when its out).

[Dyne]

Yes, but one game is like 5 times the cost of a movie. It gets to be an expensive loss.

[bobcat]

Originally posted by PuPPeT
Oh come on ypu people are trying to tell me you have never copyed a film off TV and not deleted it. Or copyed a music type or CD off a friend! There all the same form of Stealing!!!

Ok I will say it i do copy games every now and again, I don't see why i should have to wait so long for PDO (which i must say F***ing rocks, so i will buy it when its out).

No they are all sweet little innocent angels who have never copied ANYTHING in their lives. Otherwise they wouldn't be so passionate about it.

And that even includes doubling movies, watching early releases of copied movies, double taping a audio cassette etc , listening to a friends burnt CD, or accidentally using an extra license with software at home/work.

[Null]

Originally posted by Dyne
Yes, but one game is like 5 times the cost of a movie. It gets to be an expensive loss.


doesnt matter cost. stealing is stealing.

Im not sure i get puppets TV example. recording a show off the TV is not illegal. not sure what is meant by that.

But yes there are many other types of stealing. And im sure everyone has done something at one point or another

just other people dont make a topic about it saying they will never have to pay again cuz they'll just do it all the time. So no one can talk about other people.

[PuPPeT]

Originally posted by Null
Im not sure i get puppets TV example. recording a show off the TV is not illegal. not sure what is meant by that.

Yes recording off the the TV is illegal if you keep the copy for over a set amount of time. Just cuss a film is on TV does not make it PD!

[tarakan69]

Yo guys are joke!!

You live in wonderland where you do everything for the good of shome company that has never gave a **** about you, and never will.

The fact that you aren't buying original games doesn't even hurt them, you as 1 person don't make the difference. If so would my friends legit support of the DC make survive longer.... um no.

[Null]

Originally posted by PuPPeT
Yes recording off the the TV is illegal if you keep the copy for over a set amount of time. Just cuss a film is on TV does not make it PD!

PD? wtf is PD?



And yes it used to be illegal when recorders were first made. Same with recording songs off the radio.

i seem to remember that changing quite a while ago. either that rule is gone. or they just dont inforce it/care.

either way dont matter to me cuz i do neither. was just saying.


Also it used to be illegal to hook more then 1 phone in your house up to the phone line without paying for a second line.

it used to be illegal to hook more then 1 TV up to the Cable in your house.

[Professor S]

I think I've heard every excuse to pirating games in this forum, and not one of them holds any water.

1) Gaming companies are evil and take advantage of you - Then don't buy their games if you dislike them so much. Oh wait. You actually like their product? Then pay for it. Its called free enterprise, not "smash and grab"

2) I don't have enough money - I repeat, get a job. If you have a job and are horribly upset that you can't buy every game and every system that comes out, thats called life. Get used to it. I want a 2003 Corvette, but you don't see me going out and stealing one do you? Why? Its called illegal and ethically represhensible.

3) WAAAAHHH!!! WAAAAHHHH!!! - Grow up.

This issue isn't about opinion. Its not about freedom of information. Its not about technology, and its certainly not about Linux. Its about doing whats right. Its about having a modicum of ethics and doing what is right for the gaming industry and yourself.

There is no grey area. Those who pirate games are wrong. There is no way in which it is right.

As for $32,000 dollars being a lot of money, thats insane. Take away taxes, car bill, oil changes, breaks replacement, rent, utilities, credit card bills, school loans ($30,000 worth), cell phone charges, gas money, food, cable, telephone, 401K plan, mortgage fund and the 1 night a week at the bar and I'm living paycheck to paycheck. In 3 years I've managed to squirrel away $345 in my savings which I'm slowly building for my eventual need of new tires.

I own 5 XBox games and rent the rest. Could I have a lot more if pirating became common place? Of course, I could have with my Dreamcast. But I didn't because I know its wrong morally and legally and I care about more than just myself.

[BlueFire]

I don't see the problem. Money is hard to come by and stuff (especially for me). I don't have any pirated games, but I still don't see it as bad. People download music all the time. Isn't that stealing from the music industry? :rolleyes:

[Null]

Originally posted by BLueFire
I don't see the problem. Money is hard to come by and stuff (especially for me). I don't have any pirated games, but I still don't see it as bad. People download music all the time. Isn't that stealing from the music industry? :rolleyes:

thats an iffy argument.

if people download FULL CD's then yes. many just want one song of a CD. Some artists WANT thier music downloaded and put it on for that person for people to download. others dont.... not saying its right or wrong. thats a great debate.

if people only wanted part a game and not the full game. they MAY MIGHT MAYBE be able to get a debate on it at least. but theres no such thing. Downloading a Full CD, same as walking into the store and stealing it...... Same thing with games.

[Bond]

Originally posted by BLueFire
I don't see the problem. Money is hard to come by and stuff (especially for me). I don't have any pirated games, but I still don't see it as bad. People download music all the time. Isn't that stealing from the music industry? :rolleyes:
The salary of videogame programmers and music stars is a tad different.

Very iffy argument.

[Perfect Stu]

Originally posted by BLueFire
I don't see the problem. Money is hard to come by and stuff (especially for me). I don't have any pirated games, but I still don't see it as bad. People download music all the time. Isn't that stealing from the music industry? :rolleyes:

You don't see the problem because you don't see bobcat getting punished for his actions. I bet you would think any crime would be alright if one could so easily get away with it.

Of course money is hard to come by. So those who earn more of it should be able to reap the benefits. The rich have privelages...they can afford the things they want. Legally. If we don't have the money to buy something, we miss out on it. It's called LIFE. ECONOMY.

Money is hard to come by. So instead of working harder to earn more money to be able to live a more luxurious life, you just steal? Give me another offer cause I aint buying.