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gekko
12-26-2002, 11:16 AM
This is what I don't like about Microsoft. They are targeting the PS2 crowd. Leave them be!

It's sad that some people would believe this crap. What's worse, is MS doesn't deliver on Xbox Live, and still goes out and brags like it's God's gift to gaming. Give me a break.

I've added my comments in red. Hopefully it will help you think straight again, and not get drawn in to the dark side.

Rate Your Online IQ!

Here's your chance to find out whether you're an unappreciated genius or a little light in the cranium.

Question 1:
How important is voice in online gaming?
A._Absolutely critical!
B._Cool for some games, but you don't need it for all of them.

Answer:
If you chose A, you're clearly an Xbox Live gamer. We believe that talking to your teammates and opponents is what sets us apart from the monkeys. Every Xbox Live enabled game supports voice—no exceptions. If you don't feel like listening to someone, you can mute them. Not in the mood to chat yourself? Don't. At least we give you the option.

If you chose B, you probably have difficulty making decisions. Some days you want to talk trash and strategize online and other days you'd rather fester in your silent gloom. Some PS2 online games support voice, others don't. Besides, voice is really crappy on a dial-up connection (see Question 4).

[gekko's Note] What Microsoft fails to realize is that voice is for BB-only games. And voice can be pretty crappy on Xbox Live too. Lag anyone?

Question 2:
Do you enjoy using coins to install hardware peripherals?
A._Coins? What are you talking about?
B._Yes. I enjoy spending quality time with the fine products of the U.S. Mint.

Answer:
If you chose A, you must have an Xbox. See, your Xbox already has a built-in Ethernet port all ready and waiting for you to plug in an Ethernet cable, hook up to high-speed Internet service, and get online!

If you chose B, you must have a PlayStation 2. Because your console is barren of Ethernet ports, you must go to the store, purchase a network adapter, and then use a coin to screw the thing in. You'll need all the coins you can get what with buying all those peripherals and paying monthly subscriptions for games.

[gekko's Note]They are referring to using a coin to screw the network adapter in place. Microsoft assumes you're all idiots and can't screw in a screw with a coin. They also try to pretend like buying a network adapter at a store is different from buying an Xbox Live starter kit. Built-in hardware is no good if you still need to buy a kit to use it. That's like having that amazing DVD player in there. And it's funny how no current game except FFXI has a subscription, and Xbox Live supports subscriptions, has games in development that are planning to have subscriptions, and are "encouraging the development of subscription-worthy games."

Question 3:
How many personalities do you have?
A._One. Duh.
B._Several. I'm kinda moody. Like a girl.

Answer:
If you chose A, you and Xbox Live are a match made in gamer heaven. When you sign up for the Xbox Live service, you pick a single Gamertag. It's your persistent online identity, so you can build your rep and your buddies can find you no matter what game you're playing.

If you chose B, you'd probably get along real well in the land of PS2 Online. Because in that world you need a new name for each and every game you play. So what if you have to remember 16 different names and passwords? So what if your friends can't find you online? You're a free spirit, right? Or is it just schizophrenia?

[gekko's Note]Stupid MS fails to realize how many gamers like having different names. Using the name ass ripper in a fantasy world doesn't work too well. Different names depending on the game is actually a GOOD thing. Go PS2.

Question 4:
What's your take on dial-up Internet service?
A._Dial-up? Are you freakin' kidding me?
B._Dial-up is just as good as high-speed. For real.

Answer:
If you chose A, you're obviously a happening, with-it kind of gamer who would no more try to play online over a dial-up connection than attempt to suck pizza through a straw.

If you chose B—wait, wait, someone's still laughing… okay. We're better now. Um, dial-up is a fine way to play online. It's especially cool because that way you can have a special club of gamers to play with—since you won't be able to play with the high-speeders. You can call it the "Slow Club."

[gekko's Note]I guess MS is forgetting that the most popular online ever, PSO, can be played easily by a 56K user. And who doesn't enjoy playing Chu Chu Rocket online? But MS doesn't like to think about things.

Question 5:
Do you like to play games with your friends?
A._Hell yeah! Bring it on!
B._Um, not really. I don't have many, anyway.

Answer:
If you chose A, you're in luck because with Xbox Live you've got a permanent posse of playmates. Your Friends list works for every game you play. You can see if your buddies are online and what they're playing. You can even do cross-game invitations. Even if you didn't have any friends at all you could meet tons of them that match your skills and interests with Xbox Live matchmaking.

If you chose B, you probably have a lot of imaginary friends, right? The ones that don't get ticked off when they can't see if you're online? Maybe you have different friends for each different game. You'd have to, since your list is not persistent with_ PS2 Online.

[gekko's Note]Wow, finally a valid point. Too bad the friends list absolutely sucks in every game except MotoGP.

Question 6:
How do you feel about connecting your console to the Internet?
A._I want it quick and painless.
B._I enjoy complicated projects. I went to M.I.T.

Answer:
If you chose A, you'll love the way the Xbox Live Dashboard does practically everything for you automatically, and the Web site tells you everything you need to know to connect fast and start playing. We've even got provider-specific information and a logo program for equipment that we've tested and verified works great with Xbox Live.

If you chose B, you will surely enjoy the painstaking and arduous connection process possible with the PlayStation 2 online service. When you're not screwing in adapters, you're searching far and wide for info on how to connect. And ISP info? They've got phone numbers for a few of them. What more could you ask for?

[gekko's Note]It took me longer to get Xbox Live setup than my PS2. Not to mention it's just as quick and painless to detect settings. Only thing is, it didn't take me a day and a half to enter credit card numbers, subscription codes, and my billing address into PS2. I didn't need them, and if I would've, they have keyboard support.

Results
If you chose mostly A, congratulations! You are terrifically smart and talented (Read: Brainwashed). You know what's good and you know where to get it. Now get back to your Xbox!

If you chose mostly B, congratulations! You will have some fun with your coin-screwing, multiple names, laggy games (that you'll also find on Xbox Live), and hidden friends.

Thanks for playing!

Null
12-26-2002, 01:52 PM
i say, put the console online.

and thats that.

I wouldnt recommend any of the 3 consoles get in a war over what online is better then whos.

Cuz PC online games would kick the crap out of any of em hands down. ;)

GameKinG
12-26-2002, 01:57 PM
What if I dont want online? Does XBL benefit that need aswell? HUH? Personaly I think Nintendo has a better offline service. :D

gekko
12-26-2002, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Null
Cuz PC online games would kick the crap out of any of em hands down. ;)

Xbox Live has it's advantages, few, but they are there. It's definetly a step in the right direction. However, the way they advertise it is truly annoying. They try to advertise built-in hardware, when the argument is BS. They advertise BB-only, when the argument is BS.

Why don't they advertise the stuff where they are actually taking a step forward? They are writing their ads in the most fanboyish way I've seen in my entire life. No wonder there are so many fanboys out there.

Null
12-26-2002, 02:20 PM
what advantages are they?
the one i see for consoles. is thier exclusive first party games thats PC wont get.

for all else im seeing is Everything a console can do online, a computer can do better.

Much more freedom on a computer when gaming, Cant ping well to servers? hell, just make your own server.

need a buddy list? download an IM program.

want to do voice chat in ANY game? download a voice chat program. and get yourself a mic or headset. Need controllers? use anyone you want, including console controllers.

most games let you use any name you want. few have you register thoes names.

have games that are Pay to play? aka. FFXI or games like EverQuest, Ultima Oline.... And dont want to pay?
if you can find a private server, you can play them for free.

more mods... bigger communty.. ......... i could go on.

obvious to say, im not a major fan of online console gaming. if a game comes a long i want to play online and cant on PC, then i will hook my console up to my network. thats about it.

fingersman
12-26-2002, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by Null


I wouldnt recommend any of the 3 consoles get in a war over what online is better then whos.

Cuz PC online games would kick the crap out of any of em hands down. ;)


*shakes Null's hand*

You damn right man!!!

Oh yeah, that voice thing isn't really necessary........SC and WC3 work just fine without voice interaction. :D

gekko
12-26-2002, 02:28 PM
Buddy list is better in Xbox live than it would be on PC, ever. Can always see what your buddy is playing, whether they are on or not, can send invites without leaving the game, and can join right into their game. With PC, you message them, wait for a reply, then try to connect with them. On Xbox Live, every single person is on the same program, and PC can't match it.

Also, everyone who plays has the ability to use voice chat, and most do. On PC, it's an option, but not everyone uses it. Better to talk to all of your team, than half.

Though, PC is better is every other case :)

Null
12-26-2002, 02:50 PM
and actually many pc games of late have had an internal buddy list.

guess its a matter of preference on your buddy list.

i myself dont need everyone to know what im doing every second or where i am.

if someone sends a message... i will answer em if i want. i myself find choice is better then just this or that. and PC online has far more choices.

As for voice chat. i hate it. i dont like it. i have no reason to listen to whinny little ass's my whole game. i can see it enough in text.

part when its used most. is for Clans. and when your in a clan and goto a match. you just set your whole team on the voice chat program of choice and you're all on. and the fact that its seperate from the actual game, it effects the game less. and the game effects it less.

Angrist
12-26-2002, 03:28 PM
Yeah go kill em Gekko! :sneaky:

Bond
12-26-2002, 05:38 PM
I believe Everquest is the most popular online ever gekko. :p

gekko
12-26-2002, 05:46 PM
Console game. I meant console game damnit!

Always gotta pick on me :(

JamesDark
12-26-2002, 07:38 PM
Thanks for the laugh, gekko. I guess MS thinks all their consumers are retarded "yes" men.