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Shadow_Link

12-03-2002, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by Null
um.

might i ask why anyone in thier right minds would not want an optical mouse?

i didnt even know they made the old crappy ball ones anymore.

I heard that they were really hard to use with games..? Like lifting the mouse off the table would result in the cursor moving accross the screen.

Null

12-03-2002, 07:40 PM

no.

opticals are best for games. MUCH MUCH MUCH more precise
smoother. eaiser to use. never need cleaning

there was some problems with opticals in games when they were first being made at the start.

they've long since fixed such issues.

the one i use now. NEVER had a problem with in any game ever. its never twitched, its never gone off track. its been perfect.

Logitech Duel Optical. (2 finger buttons, scool bar/button. and a thumb button)

the one im getting for chirstmas .... Logitech MX500 (2 fingerbuttons, scrollbar/button, button above scroll bar, 2 buttons below scroll bar, and 2 thumb buttons :D )

i prefer logitech over anything else. never had a problem with anything they've made. hate the MS mouses.

and i hate Cordless mice, no point in em, always right by the computer.......... Batteries run down. when batteries get low, mouse will start going funny untill batteries get repalced. just not worth getting a cordless

Shadow_Link

12-03-2002, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by Null
no.

opticals are best for games. MUCH MUCH MUCH more precise
smoother. eaiser to use. never need cleaning

there was some problems with opticals in games when they were first being made at the start.

they've long since fixed such issues.

the one i use now. NEVER had a problem with in any game ever. its never twitched, its never gone off track. its been perfect.

Logitech Duel Optical. (2 finger buttons, scool bar/button. and a thumb button)

the one im getting for chirstmas .... Logitech MX500 (2 fingerbuttons, scrollbar/button, button above scroll bar, 2 buttons below scroll bar, and 2 thumb buttons :D )

i prefer logitech over anything else. never had a problem with anything they've made. hate the MS mouses.

and i hate Cordless mice, no point in em, always right by the computer.......... Batteries run down. when batteries get low, mouse will start going funny untill batteries get repalced. just not worth getting a cordless

Thanks for the heads up. Just out of curiosity though... If you've played Counter Strike before, how well does the mouse work with the game?

Null

12-03-2002, 07:53 PM

i've played it. mouse worked perfectly (hate the game tho. never played much of it)

but i play FPS online for PC all the time.

Quake 3, now UT2003 battlefield 1942.
the mouse is best for FPS online

i mean, once you use an optical mouse, you'll seriously wonder how you ever did without, you can aim quicker and more accuratly, if your sniping, and you want to move it just a hair, you can do it.

i remember when i used a ball mouse and i was sniping one on game, i tried to move a hair. and the damn ball would get stuck, and have to move it a bit more, then it would go too far.
*mumbles*

you'd never want to have a ball mouse again, i dred going to someones house and they have a ball mouse. i yell at em. hehe.

Shadow_Link

12-03-2002, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by Null
i've played it. mouse worked perfectly (hate the game tho. never played much of it)

but i play FPS online for PC all the time.

Quake 3, now UT2003 battlefield 1942.
the mouse is best for FPS online

i mean, once you use an optical mouse, you'll seriously wonder how you ever did without, you can aim quicker and more accuratly, if your sniping, and you want to move it just a hair, you can do it.

i remember when i used a ball mouse and i was sniping one on game, i tried to move a hair. and the damn ball would get stuck, and have to move it a bit more, then it would go too far.
*mumbles*

you'd never want to have a ball mouse again, i dred going to someones house and they have a ball mouse. i yell at em. hehe.

Thanks man, I'm definately going to get one now. You know any websites that have them (I live in the UK)?

Null

12-03-2002, 08:10 PM

well see, im a biased one to ask.

www.logitech.com

woudl be my answer.

i use nothing but logitech for mice. hell. my keyboard is logitech. my ps2 steering wheel is logitech. i never seen another company better then them for mice.

im pretty sure they're in UK too tho.

Happydude

12-03-2002, 09:03 PM

i got a Ms mouse...still no probs with it, it's optical, 2 buttons and a scroll (which is also a third button) and i've had it for about 2 years now...now probs...i play CS everyday, works like a charm...

GameMaster

12-03-2002, 09:04 PM

I have an optical mouse also Shadow Link, it's great. DO NOT buy a mouse with balls (pun intended). ;)

Null

12-03-2002, 09:28 PM

yes, you want a female mouse. :D

GameMaster

12-03-2002, 09:33 PM

Check out my bad boy :D

http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/2041/220/store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/learnmore_pro_mouse.jpg

Null

12-03-2002, 10:18 PM

im sorry, but Mac mice are another reason im not buying a mac right now.

they may look pretty, they're just not as pratical as other mice. They still have only 1 button? or have they 2 now?

scrool bar?

bunch of other buttons?

Edit.

oh yea. i can use my logitech mice on macs.

All is well then. :D

Happydude

12-03-2002, 10:30 PM

lol Null...i think they still have only 1 button and no scroll thingy:unsure:

Shiz

12-03-2002, 10:42 PM

this vpr matrix one kicks ****ing ass........i had one that SUCKED.....think it was memorex or some ****

GameMaster

12-03-2002, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by Null
im sorry, but Mac mice are another reason im not buying a mac right now.

they may look pretty, they're just not as pratical as other mice. They still have only 1 button? or have they 2 now?

scrool bar?

bunch of other buttons?

Edit.

oh yea. i can use my logitech mice on macs.

All is well then. :D

Scroll bar: Can people be any lazier?
Bunch of other Buttons: Why?

Mac mice don't have any buttons. The whole mouse is one large button I guess. You just click anywhere on the mouse.

Seven7

12-04-2002, 02:51 AM

a liittle off topic but i just had to ask.....logitech optical usb mouse works with PS2 right, I've heard they were a good choice to use if you were to use a mouse with the PS2.

Null

12-04-2002, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by GameMaster
Scroll bar: Can people be any lazier?
Bunch of other Buttons: Why?

Mac mice don't have any buttons. The whole mouse is one large button I guess. You just click anywhere on the mouse.

weak case in trying to defend a innovationless, optionless boring mouse. ;)

yea, lets take away the things that make life easier. i mean why would we want a scroll where we can sift thro long documents easily, why would we want the extra buttons.

oh wait. heres a pertty good reason....

GAMES.

mac mouse for games... SUCKS. plain and simple.

other mouse.

left click = FIRE
right click = jump
scroll = sift thro weapons
other buttons = alt fire, zoom, crouch, many other things that make games easier.

jeepnut

12-04-2002, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by Shadow_Link
Thanks for the heads up. Just out of curiosity though... If you've played Counter Strike before, how well does the mouse work with the game?

I play CS all the time at my school. We have a club that is dedicated to gaming and CS is the most popular game on campus so I play it quite frequently. I used to play with my stock two button plus scroll gateway mouse. It was a ball mouse and I had to keep cleaning it. I bought an MS optical mouse, the four button plus scroll variety and have never been happier. I noticed an immediate improvement and NO CLEANING!

Shadow_Link

12-04-2002, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by jeepnut
I play CS all the time at my school. We have a club that is dedicated to gaming and CS is the most popular game on campus so I play it quite frequently. I used to play with my stock two button plus scroll gateway mouse. It was a ball mouse and I had to keep cleaning it. I bought an MS optical mouse, the four button plus scroll variety and have never been happier. I noticed an immediate improvement and NO CLEANING!

That's great. I guess I should either go with Microsoft or Logitech for mice right?

Bond

12-04-2002, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by Shadow_Link
That's great. I guess I should either go with Microsoft or Logitech for mice right?
I would go with a Microsoft laser mouse. I've had one for 2 years now and it is simply the best mouse I have ever used.

Here is a handy little guide that will help you find the best mouse for you (assuming you get a MS one):

http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouse/guide.asp

Here is the one I own:

http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouse/ie_info.asp

It's pretty much like that, only difference is that mine is an earlier version and a tad smaller.

Null

12-04-2002, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by Shadow_Link
That's great. I guess I should either go with Microsoft or Logitech for mice right?

yes, thoes are the 2 tops.

i say Logitech is the best tho.

i find they have MUCH MUCH MUCH easier and better driver support for thier mice.

i've never had anything go wrong with any of my logitech mice.
i mean i bought a $15 cheap logitech optical mouse a while back, for work. and its been beat on, tossed around, droped on the floor, its almost black with dirt, it was white when it was new.

and it still runs like a champ.

Basically i suggest you go out and find the one thats most comfortable for you, goto some stores, look around.

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?page=products/details&CRID=3&CONTENTID=4984&countryid=19&languageid=1
Thats the mouse i have right now. Duel Optical. has 2 lasers. hehe. :)

and for christmas im going to step up to...
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?page=products/details&CRID=3&CONTENTID=4998&countryid=19&languageid=1
dats my mx500 *drools* dat baby is loaded with buttons. 2 thumb, 2 finger, scroll, and 1 above, 2 below the scroll. :)

jeepnut

12-04-2002, 07:25 PM

http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouse/imo_info.asp

That's mine. Picked it up for around $20 on-sale. They can be found pretty cheap since they are an older model, but they have five buttons, are dead accurate, and as far as I can tell, not much different than the more expensive ones.

GameMaster

12-04-2002, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by Null
i mean why would we want a scroll where we can sift thro long documents easily...

Thats what the page up and down keys on your keyboard are for... :rolleyes:

For games, yes, a Mac mouse would not be very good. Doesn't really matter when the computer isn't good for games either though...

But for general computer use their top notch.

Shadow_Link

12-04-2002, 09:10 PM

Again, thank you Bond, Null and Jeepnut.

There's just so many :eek:.

I'll make my mind up pretty soon though. I gather you wont need a mouse mat for optical mice? What a relief!

Null

12-04-2002, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by GameMaster
Thats what the page up and down keys on your keyboard are for... :rolleyes:

For games, yes, a Mac mouse would not be very good. Doesn't really matter when the computer isn't good for games either though...

But for general computer use their top notch.

oh yes, lets take our hands off the mouse, to use page up and page down, when we could do it much easier and faster witht he mouse :rolleyes: curse things that make life easier. damn them to hell. (specially when going thro a doc, highlighting, moving stuff, editing it)

hell man, why even use a mouse at all? everything can be done thro the keyboard. you just lazy for wanting to use a mouse to click. you should be using the keyboard. :rolleyes:

a mac mouse looks pretty. period. thats about it. it has 1 function, click.

Bond

12-04-2002, 09:31 PM

Originally posted by Shadow_Link
I'll make my mind up pretty soon though. I gather you wont need a mouse mat for optical mice? What a relief!
You don't 'need' one, but I prefer them with a mat.

Null

12-04-2002, 09:54 PM

hehe, honestly im not tryin to disagree with everything bond says....

but i hate mouse pads., they tend to limit the movement, without a mouse pad i can move the mouse farther along the desk without it falling off the edge of the pad or having to pick it up and put it down in the middle again.

GameMaster

12-04-2002, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by Null
a mac mouse looks pretty. period. thats about it. it has 1 function, click.

Isn't it ironic? A mouse that serves it's intended purpose...

Anyway...

ShadowLink, you may need a mousepad depending on the surface of your desk or where ever your computer is planted. Is it a glossy surface? Is it one general color or are there distinct differences?

If it's glossy or something, the mouse may have trouble tracking because the laser could reflect. Also, if surface is all one color, like pure white or something, the mouse could have trouble distinguishing it's location.