Losing faith in Nintendo? Read This!

[Jonbo298]

http://www.cube-europe.com/newsphp/news.php?id=3039

Go there, read the WHOLE article about what C-E is thinking is gonna happen with Nintendo and the GameBoy Player. One thing that was interesting to me was the 1" missing in height to make the 'Cube an actual cube. But after that, I rekindled my faith in Nintendo. Not that it ever was doubting, but it went up. I hope what they are thinking is true!:D

[GameKinG]

He has seemingly predicted the future and the apocalypse.

Pokemon will control the world!

[Yoda9864]

::Stares in complete awe:: I am a believer! That would be so ____ing awesome!! It all makes sense too. Why would they need to make the GBA player so big? Why would they need to have a boot disc for the GC? I agree, that would boost GC sales a lot. Oh god, I can't wait until December.

[DarkMaster]

could someone give me the gist of the article, i'm too lazy to read it

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by DarkMaster
could someone give me the gist of the article, i'm too lazy to read it

Well first they say they think that the AGB add-on for NGC was planned all along because they called Gamecube a cube when it was an inch too short, and the add-on is an inch high :p

But then the main thing is online gaming I think... specifically pokemon... by hooking up the GBA game into the GBA NGC addon and getting online with the NGC's online capabilities, they could do something online with their big franchise thing... which would prolly sell quite a few GBA add-ons and NGCs as well...

And now I'll make some comments of my own :p

Although I'm not into pokemon, I think that giving GBA games online capabilities through NGC would be an awesome thing... Zelda anyone? That 4 player Zelda mode in LttP... playable online...

then there's another interesting note in the article I hadn't heard of before:

"It has been noticeable that ahead of this mysterious December announcement, so many of the big Japanese companies have started to throw their weight behind the GameCube. I think they have been given exclusive previews to this hardware, and know that Nintendo are sitting on a goldmine – and want to be part of the action. First was Square with Final Fantasy – with both GameCube and GameBoy versions planned which would tie in nicely. Now Capcom have announced 5 exclusive games, Konami have told us that we can expect a version of Pro Evolution Soccer, and have delayed a big announcement by a month (Metal Gear Solid anyone?)."

Metal Gear Solid would be nice, but y'know what I'd rather have (since we already have a nice MGS game this gen)? Castlevania... 2 Castlevania games on GBA so far, no console game... Make another Castlevania game that ties into an NGC version (3D or 2D, either way)... That's what I'd rather have...

Mesa just hopes it's true... even though I don't care about pokemon, the potential for GBA online stuff or developers doing more with the GBA/NGC connectivity because of this would be berry nice...

Anyways I think I got all that stuff right, maybe I be misunderstanding or something

[CrOnO_LiNk]

Losing faith in Nintendo!? **** that!

I just bought Metroid Prime and already I know what game deserves Game of the Year!

[Jason1]

I might like this idea if I was into pokemon more than I am, but still im very skeptical. As I have said before, I dont think Pokemon is as popular is it used to be. Even if it is, Pokemons primary audience, Kids, dont really care too much about online gameing? Do they? I could be wrong I guess...and it just dosent sound that fun to me...unless you can go around in a virtual online environment like a pokemon MORPG...kinda...but if its just like trading pokemon online, I see no big deal there...you can trade pokemon online big deal...I dont think people will care about that too much...but if you can actually battle other people in real time and such...It could be good.

[bobcat]

I haven't had time to read this yet because I'm at work, but DH do u have a link confirming ISS Pro Evolution for GC??

Also briefly looking @ this and I'm loving it.

[Perfect Stu]

-Losing faith in Nintendo?

Yes.

-Read This!

Ok.

Done.

-Losing faith in Nintendo?

Yes.

[GameMaster]

Originally posted by Jason1
I might like this idea if I was into pokemon more than I am, but still im very skeptical. As I have said before, I dont think Pokemon is as popular is it used to be. Even if it is, Pokemon's primary audience, Kids, dont really care too much about online gaming? Do they? I could be wrong I guess...and it just dosent sound that fun to me...unless you can go around in a virtual online environment like a pokemon MORPG...kinda...but if its just like trading pokemon online, I see no big deal there...you can trade pokemon online big deal...I dont think people will care about that too much...but if you can actually battle other people in real time and such...It could be good.

I think you are wrong Jason. I think kids would love the concept of online gaming for Pokémon. Those of us who have followed the Pokémon series aren't really challenged. But opening up an online option would refresh the Pokémon craze we've all seen. And it would be an outlet for people who've beaten the game and want more competition. I can't wait! Please let this speculation be true! Please let Pokémon go online! How fun would it be to battle people all around the US? They could even create pre-written text that would be needed for a battle and translate so you play against other people all around the world! :beat: :boing: :beat: :shake:

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by GameMaster
I think kids would love the concept of online gaming for Pokémon.

And the parents would love to pay for an NGC with a GBA add-on so their kids can play even more pokemon!

:sneaky:

[Mushlafa]

cmon.. that doesnt get you excited at all??

[GameMaster]

Nintendo Beware!

Adding a price tag to the use of the internet for online gaming can and will kill your success. We like it free. Charge at your own caution.

[TheGame]

I read it... maybe it means everything, maybe it means nothing:

Pokemon Online:

I would love to see pokemon online... but not through that link up. They should just make the game for GCN instead of putting gamers through all that drama to get online with it. $39.99 game, $39.99 est. add on, and $34.99 for the modem.... $115 just to play a Gameboy game online? (nasty graphics and all)

That would suck... is it worth it? Maybe, but it isn't the best deal Nintendo could have given. Maybe they will release a MiniDVD version of the GBA game.

... I'm kinda with Stu on this one, I haven't gained any faith in them. But I do hope they make the best of this situation. I still forsee them leaving this generation in third place world wide.

[bobcat]

Originally posted by Mushlafa
cmon.. that doesnt get you excited at all??
No if you get excited you will be called a Nintendo fanboy indirectly.

Just remain calm and boring. Then it's ok. If you get excited about anything NIntendo, you are a fanboy.

But you can get excited about Xbox and Ps2 games then no problem :sneaky:

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by bobcat
No if you get excited you will be called a Nintendo fanboy indirectly.

Just remain calm and boring. Then it's ok. If you get excited about anything NIntendo, you are a fanboy.

But you can get excited about Xbox and Ps2 games then no problem :sneaky:

FANBOY :mad2:

[TheGame]

Originally posted by bobcat
No if you get excited you will be called a Nintendo fanboy indirectly.

Just remain calm and boring. Then it's ok. If you get excited about anything NIntendo, you are a fanboy.

But you can get excited about Xbox and Ps2 games then no problem :sneaky:

Only a fanboy would say somthing like this

[Crash]

I think he's way off, here's my explanation:

Nintendo's big december announcement is the purchase of Capcom (maybe namco, too)

The reason nintendo made the adapter fit the cube like that is so all the little kiddies with the GBA would have to buy a cube to play their games on their big tv. i think it's just another way of pushing the gamecube. (why would nintendo try to do that if you can already buy a third party one for 70 bux?) well cause that third party one is 70 bux, and nintendo didn't know anyone would make that way back when this idea was thought of.

But the real question is, why would nintendo make a boot disk? It probably is the only way to get the job done, that all folks..


by the way, i still love nintendo, and i love metroid.

[TheGame]

I agree Crash, whenever new hardware is put on a system it needs a boot disk (of some sort)

Yeah, the network adapter didn't need one, but PSO served as one. While this GBA add on would need some type of disk to serve as boot-up disk. (I mean, you couldn't use a GBA cart to tell the hardware it's installed if the hardware doesn't even know it's there yet.

[DeathsHand]

Nintendo purchasing Capcom and Namco? Err... :unsure:

[Dyne]

Firstly, the purchase of Capcom or Namco would do more damage, wouldn't it? The other companies would get jealous. Plus, it's just not Nintendo's style like me and a million others have been saying all along.

Though it would be sweet. =D

BTW, there WAS an announced boot disc for the Gameboy Player... You need it. Go read that article again..

[bobcat]

Originally posted by TheGame
Only a fanboy would say somthing like this

Then maybe you should listen to the fanboys? Then again maybe not.

Sigh

This is what I've been noticing since GC was launched. But anyways, if I have to prove a point at the expense of being called a fanboy, then so be it. :cool:

[TheGame]

Originally posted by Dyne
Firstly, the purchase of Capcom or Namco would do more damage, wouldn't it? The other companies would get jealous. Plus, it's just not Nintendo's style like me and a million others have been saying all along.

Though it would be sweet. =D

BTW, there WAS an announced boot disc for the Gameboy Player... You need it. Go read that article again..

Who said there wasn't an announcement for it? Also, who said that we wouldn't need to use it?

*checks old posts again*

:confused:

[Shadow_Link]

Erm, I doubt the purchase of Capcom/Namco would result in GameCubes flying off of shelves worldwide. The 'casual' gamer probably wouldn't know about the news. Then again, the games they release exclusively would result in more people buying the cube.

[TheGame]

Originally posted by Shadow_Link
Erm, I doubt the purchase of Capcom/Namco would result in GameCubes flying off of shelves worldwide. The 'casual' gamer probably wouldn't know about the news. Then again, the games they release exclusively would result in more people buying the cube.

If it's both (which I doubt it's either) it would boost GCN's sales a LOT. Nintendo would preety much own the fighting game genre.... cept for virtual fighter and DOA, which are exclusives to other platforms.

[Crash]

sure, I think the only thing that would make cube go flying off the shelves is if nitnendo released and online mario kart with worldwide rankings.

but in the grand scheme of things, nintendo owning the rights to megaman, street fighter, soul caliber, RE, Tekken, etc, would be cool... and just think, pacman, exclusive on GC :rolleyes:

i think it would be good for nintendo. what they really need to do is release more mature titles.... and it is my opinion that third party games are good, but not as good as first party... i think the only third party game that is doing really good is madden...

[Perfect Stu]

dear god Nintendo...whatever you do, don't buy Capcom...

If you want to sell systems, buy Konami...you'd get some great franchises, with the big seller (also one of the biggest selling franchises in gaming) being METAL GEAR SOLID

If they buy Capcom, they get what? RE series exclusive? They already have that...Megaman? That series has been a huge system seller lately, hasn't it? :rolleyes: Street Fighter? :unsure: BOF from what I hear is top quality RPG gaming, but do the games sell in the millions? (Not sure)

But whatever...it's not my money...besides the load of cash they'd be getting from me as a consumer from buying the system, peripherals, and tons of games if they were to buy, say, Konami...and I wonder how many Playstation and Playstation 2 owners (HUUUUUUGE MGS fans) would pick up a Gamecube if its marquee title was Metal Gear Solid 3?

Just a thought.

[bobcat]

Originally posted by TheGame
If it's both (which I doubt it's either) it would boost GCN's sales a LOT. Nintendo would preety much own the fighting game genre.... cept for virtual fighter and DOA, which are exclusives to other platforms.

Every fighting game fan knows that DOA is not all it's cracked up to be. That game has so many holes in it's fighting engine it isn't funny.

Yeh I still don't think it'd greatly increase GCN sales. What Nintendo needs is Squaresoft games. Those FF games sell so much! When FF Chronicle Crystal thingamagicbob comes out, I'd be interested to see how many copies it sells.

Speaking of Virtua Fighter 4, did you end up buying that? I remember you were thinking about it loooooong time ago. It is such a good game, unfortunately there ain't enough people playing it to boost its sales.

[Crono]

Originally posted by Perfect Stu
BOF from what I hear is top quality RPG gaming, but do the games sell in the millions? (Not sure)


No, because anything that isnt FF is overshadowed by FF, because its so damn popular, and overrated.

From what I've played, the BoF series is very good (BoF3 is ranked as my 3rd fav. game of all time) and I cant wait for BoF5 on Ps2.

Even if the BoF series was on GCN, it wouldnt sell near a million copies, it probably would in Japan, but not here.

[Dyne]

Originally posted by TheGame
Who said there wasn't an announcement for it? Also, who said that we wouldn't need to use it?

*checks old posts again*

:confused:

<----Drunk

[TheGame]

Originally posted by bobcat
Every fighting game fan knows that DOA is not all it's cracked up to be. That game has so many holes in it's fighting engine it isn't funny.

Is it not the best fighting game for Xbox? If it were on GCN prior to MK:DA) wouldn't it be the best (realistic) fighter on GCN?

Speaking of Virtua Fighter 4, did you end up buying that? I remember you were thinking about it loooooong time ago. It is such a good game, unfortunately there ain't enough people playing it to boost its sales.

Nope, haven't got it yet. It's hard for a fighting game to warrant a purchase from me... cept Tekken. 5 years ago I would have been the first person at the store buying VF, but now due to VF3's huge let down I don't even think about the series much anymore.

I will still give it a try, I just completly forgot about it.

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by TheGame
but now due to VF3's huge let down I don't even think about the series much anymore.

I bought VF3 on DC (that was 3, right? :unsure: ) because Sega had a nice sale at one time and sold a couple games I wanted for a mere 10 bucks... anyways, I played that game like once... it sucked ass...

But even I had fun with VF4... it was good fun (very fun against my friend cuz we were both about equally skilled at the game... that is to say, we both sucked :p ), just too hard for me and I was getting nowhere so I traded it for SSB:M... yep...

Basically: VF4 is cheap now I think, might as well pick it up :p

[GameMaster]

So then, is it safe to say the SSB series has the best fighting engine in the history of all fighting style games?

[bobcat]

Originally posted by TheGame
Is it not the best fighting game for Xbox? If it were on GCN prior to MK:DA) wouldn't it be the best (realistic) fighter on GCN?



Well probably is the "best fighting game for xbox" but that don't mean it's any good.

For example with the counters. There's no (or VERY little) delay after performing a counter. Basically you can just keep on countering non stop and win. So stupid. So those chars with the 5 hit combos basically suck.

One major loophole. Sure you can throw people who use counter all the time, but there should be more lag after a counter.

Anyway I don't wanna bitch nemore bout this pathetic game.....pisses me off. I remember the developer was saying how much better the backgrounds and graphics were than VF and Tekken. He didn't mention that he knows sh!t all about making fighting games.

[bobcat]

Originally posted by GameMaster
So then, is it safe to say the SSB series has the best fighting engine in the history of all fighting style games?

Um ............... no

It's balanced I guess which is good. There are some weak chars, but generally balanced.

But for a proper fighting game engine the tactics are kept to a minimum , but there still are some tactics. It's probably more tactical than DOA3 actually :unsure: Or maybe not

[Angrist]

Argh when's Soul Calibur 2 coming out??? :mad:

Interesting story on C-E, but what are the chances it's true?? It would be cool though... perhaps it could like play older GB online.. like Mario Kart and Wolfenstein. :)