GameCube beating Xbox in USA [Archive]

Xantar

11-11-2002, 05:03 PM

Correct forum aside, I could have sworn the report IGN posted is the exact opposite of this.

I remember that IGN's report went up to September just like this one. But that one had the Xbox ahead by 500,000 units. Now this one comes along and says that the GameCube is ahead by 500,000 units.

Something's screwy going on here.

Either that or I'm crazy.

Shadow_Link

11-11-2002, 05:14 PM

Meh, I don't know what to trust when it comes to US console sales.

One source says this console is 500,000 ahead of that console, while another says the complete opposite.

GameMaster

11-11-2002, 05:38 PM

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Do you think by this time next year, Nintendo will have surpassed Sony in console sales?

UncleNoName

11-11-2002, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by GameMaster
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Do you think by this time next year, Nintendo will have surpassed Sony in console sales?

No chance, neither will Xbox. PS2 already has lead of about 9 million and is selling faster. Plus it has GTA: VC...:D

BlueFire

11-11-2002, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by GameMaster
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Do you think by this time next year, Nintendo will have surpassed Sony in console sales? LOL

Shadow_Link

11-11-2002, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by GameMaster
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Do you think by this time next year, Nintendo will have surpassed Sony in console sales?

The only remote chance of that happening is if Nintendo secure the Final Fantasy series, Dragon Quest Series, the next MGS installment and a whole bunch of Rockstar games exclusively.

But since it isn't going to happen, I say no chance. Even the combines sales of the GC + Xbox will be atleast a fourth of the total sales of the PS2 worldwide, maybe even less.

Bond

11-11-2002, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by GameMaster
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Do you think by this time next year, Nintendo will have surpassed Sony in console sales?
Not a chance in hell, sorry GameMaster. :roll:

Perfect Stu

11-11-2002, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by GameMaster
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Do you think by this time next year, Nintendo will have surpassed Sony in console sales?

no.

Null

11-11-2002, 08:59 PM

perhaps if nintendo offered a special deal where everyone who returns a PS2 gets $500

and all the returns would count against sonys sales. and thier numbers would rapidly plummit.

then in a counter mesure, sony lowers the price of the PS2 to $10

but that only incurages people to buy tons and return them all making huge huge profits.

and the guy who came up with the idea gets fired from sony

then sony stares fireing other employee's

thier stock goes to hell

people start selling the stock

sony goes out of business

nintendo buys sony.

nintendo then gets all sonys sales added onto thier own total..

then nintendo rules all the sales numbers

:hmm: :unsure:

um, yea. possibly.....

Jonbo298

11-11-2002, 09:32 PM

Just wait until Metroid Prime comes out, then followed by Zelda. We'll see who's ahead:D

DarkMaster

11-11-2002, 09:34 PM

i predict sony will still be ahead

BlueFire

11-11-2002, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by Jonbo298
Just wait until Metroid Prime comes out, then followed by Zelda. We'll see who's ahead:D Sony.

fingersman

11-11-2002, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by Jonbo298
Just wait until Metroid Prime comes out, then followed by Zelda. We'll see who's ahead:D

NEO GEO??:sneaky:

GameKinG

11-12-2002, 12:05 AM

Sony will always be ahead, the best Nintendo can do is outsell it weekly sometimes.

GameKinG

11-12-2002, 12:45 AM

Yahoo has confirmed to n-philes that this was a typo, that xbox is ahread by 500,000. Which I think closed the gap by 50,000 between xbox and cube from august...

D-realJos

11-12-2002, 07:14 AM

^^^

Yeah, I was just going to comment on the fact that I could be a mistake. Just a while ago, Xbox had a 500,000 units lead. There's no way Cube could have get the jump, let alone catch up that quick.

Crash

11-12-2002, 10:48 AM

what's weird is that we've been selling way more GCN's than Xbox's this week at circuit city. i've sold about 7 GCN, and no xbox's and one ps2...

(maybe it could be that if they express interest in either other system, i stop helping em) j/k,

no seriously.... go nintendo!

TheGame

11-12-2002, 01:49 PM

in Fall 2001... when I used to work at Software Etc, Ps2 was selling by far the worst, GCN and Xbox were handing it to Ps2. But the sales charts don't exactly reflect that :p

just depends on the store I guess.

Jason1

11-12-2002, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by fingersman
NEO GEO??:sneaky:

LMAO!!!!

And gamemaster, I hope you were joking...the thought of Gamecube EVER surpassing PS2 in total sales is a complete joke. Same goes for X-Box. Its not going to happen, simple as that. Not that I dont want to see it happen.

GameMaster

11-12-2002, 11:55 PM

Figurativley speaking, the dinosaurs came first, and were also the first to die...
*hint* *hint* :sneaky: :Ps2smilie

Slow and steady wins the race. *wink* *wink* :sneaky: :gcube:

The bigger they are, the harder they fall *touch* *touch* :sneaky: :xboxsmili

Angrist

11-13-2002, 07:19 AM

Ehm... one day everybody will have a PS2 right? I mean you can't keep on selling PS2s when everybody already has one... That's the day that GCN sales COULD be higher... (if ppl want a GCN beside their PS2).

Jonbo298

11-13-2002, 07:43 AM

okay smart asses!, I meant between Nintendo and M$!:shakehead: And to the comment from Angrist. Not everyone will own a PS2, I will be one that doesn't:D meh

TheGame

11-13-2002, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by Angrist
Ehm... one day everybody will have a PS2 right? I mean you can't keep on selling PS2s when everybody already has one... That's the day that GCN sales COULD be higher... (if ppl want a GCN beside their PS2).

That day will come around the time Ps3 is released... which is a little too late if you ask me ;)

Dyne

11-13-2002, 01:31 PM

I'll never purchase the devil system. You're only selling your soul to Satan! Sony was once regarded like Microsoft--we thought "Ooh, a big company thinks it can go in the game business?", and look where it is today? Hm. If anyone's monopolizing the market, it's Sony. God, they can't even release a good first party.

LONG LIVE GAMECUBE AND XBOX! :p

Ahem... yeah, Gamecube's winning nonetheless worldwide, what with it's release in Japan way before Xbox. I understand why the Xbox is selling better in America, it's only elementary. If Sony loses their 2nd and 3rd party support, I would love to see them flush down to the murky depths of hell where they belong. ;)

I mean really, what is PS2 without companies making games for them? Without Rockstar, EA, Sega, Square, Koei, Capcom or Konami, we can bid adu to them.

TheGame

11-13-2002, 01:34 PM

I heard Xbox is catching up to GCN in Euro, and that Xbox is predicted to come out of the Xmas season in the lead there.

As far as Japan, I don't see Xbox beating Cube..... but then again, maybe the stats are exagerated because GCN got a holiday head start over Xbox in Japan.

Null

11-13-2002, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by Dyne
God, they can't even release a good first party.
you actually saying they dont have good first party games???

IMO i like thier first party games better then MS's

gran turismo series

twisted metal games

games like. Dark cloud, ICO, Ratchet and Clank ?

i think. maybe.

Anywho. they have some very good first party games. And your putting them down for having the most 3rd party games? them getting the 3rd party games is VERY smart of them.

Dyne

11-13-2002, 03:24 PM

<-- Rabid Fanboy

:(

Null

11-13-2002, 03:51 PM

oh sure, edit your post when i already replied. hehe. luckily i can still get what ya said............

quote by Dyne:

That's their strong point, let alone Square. I enjoyed Grand Theft Auto much more than any Gran Turismo. I just don't enjoy their first party games as much as Nintendo, or Microsft. But everyone's entitled to their opinion, and that's why I don't own one.

Nintendo:

Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Mario Kart, Mario Golf/Tennis, Star Fox, Pokemon(kills them all ) and Fire Emblem, etc.

Microsoft:

Halo, Project Gotham, Mech games, Age of Mythology, Shenmue, etc.

All I'm saying is on a "good" scale, other first parties completely own them. I would never buy a Sony Console for a First Party. Crikey.

Shenmue is sega. might be xbox exclusive (aside from DC) but not first party.

aage of mythology / empire whatever, yea. but i guess i was just thinkin more along the lines of Exclusive titles.

And halo im not sure what they consider bungie, i guess they might be first party, but its kinda weird cuz it will be on PC too, which yes is also MS, but then also on Mac, which is not MS.

but aside from that. i respect your opionion not to like sony first party games.......... your entitled not to like sony first party games. but to say they cant make any good ones is a whole nother subject, becaause they seem to provide enough.

Dyne

11-13-2002, 04:19 PM

Well, they're not good enough to be a selling point. That's all I'm saying. All I hear is "omfg I want to buy GTA:VC/Xenosaga/Final Fantasy X/DMC2/MGS2:S". I've never heard anyone say that regarding a first-party.

Null

11-13-2002, 05:35 PM

not good enough to be a selling point?

GT3, perfect 10 scores. was one of THE major console sellers for PS2.

Dyne

11-13-2002, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by Null
not good enough to be a selling point?

GT3, perfect 10 scores. was one of THE major console sellers for PS2.

If they released it now instead of then, would it sell the same?

It was groundbreaking. It could have been good or even "meh". The main point of it was to show off the hardware. Plus, maybe because of the fact that they packaged GT3 in with the PS2 was why it sold so much! Hmmmmmmmmm!! ;)

TheGame

11-13-2002, 06:59 PM

There's no point Null... Him and D-other nintendo fanboys (;)) would never accept Sony as a decent 1st party.

I think M$ has Sony beat bcause Halo is great... and they just purchased thier only real console FPS competition.

But that doesn't mean Sony hasn't made any good games... GT3 for realism in a racing game has no competition. The others that try just get smoked. The gameplay isn't quite as real as I would have liked it to be (like car damage) but it's still hella fun.

Null

11-13-2002, 07:23 PM

actually Dyne, the whole reason they packaged GT3 in with a PS2 is BECAUSE OF how well it sold and how great of a game it was. they dont just put any ol game in a bundle and try to sell it. no one would buy it. the bundle was the result of the game.

and yes Game, i agree with you there. people are sometimes VERY blind.

i do say that i think sony is better first party then MS, they both have thier killer perfect rated game. but beyond that. i think sony has more good or very good first party games over MS. true ms has been around less, but thats just apart of comparing. i cant say if they had been around longer, or if they had more. because they dont.

TheGame

11-13-2002, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by Null
actually Dyne, the whole reason they packaged GT3 in with a PS2 is BECAUSE OF how well it sold and how great of a game it was. they dont just put any ol game in a bundle and try to sell it. no one would buy it. the bundle was the result of the game.

and yes Game, i agree with you there. people are sometimes VERY blind.

i do say that i think sony is better first party then MS, they both have thier killer perfect rated game. but beyond that. i think sony has more good or very good first party games over MS. true ms has been around less, but thats just apart of comparing. i cant say if they had been around longer, or if they had more. because they dont.

Now that I thought about it, Sony's is better (for the time being)... most of MS's first party power is in it's future releases of Fable, Kameo, Perfect Dark 2, and Halo 2.

I can't say that they would be better if given more time because that would be just as unfair as saying Sony's 1st party would be better than Nintendo's if given more time.

Null

11-13-2002, 07:31 PM

well considering you really dont know how PD2 or kameo would even turn out. cant really put them on the top list just yet.

But on that subject, wouldnt rare be a 2nd party for MS? or did they actulaly buy all of rare? from what i understood, they only bought the precentage that nintendo owned from nintendo themselves.

but meh *shrugs*

TheGame

11-13-2002, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by Null
well considering you really dont know how PD2 or kameo would even turn out. cant really put them on the top list just yet.

But on that subject, wouldnt rare be a 2nd party for MS? or did they actulaly buy all of rare? from what i understood, they only bought the precentage that nintendo owned from nintendo themselves.

but meh *shrugs*

Nope, they bought 100%... all of Nintendo's share, and all of those guys (I forget thier names) share.

Dyne

11-13-2002, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by Null
well considering you really dont know how PD2 or kameo would even turn out. cant really put them on the top list just yet.

But on that subject, wouldnt rare be a 2nd party for MS? or did they actulaly buy all of rare? from what i understood, they only bought the precentage that nintendo owned from nintendo themselves.

but meh *shrugs*

Rare is OWNED by Microsoft. Rare IS Microsoft. It's a dev studio. Nintendo sold 49%, Rare sold some of it's, so it's much more than 51%. It's not quite 100%, because there's still other's. 100% is UNPOSSIBLE.

At least we agree on the "meh" Null.:rolleyes:
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Null

11-13-2002, 08:27 PM

unpossible? :hmm:

*goes off to get dictionary* :p

Dyne

11-13-2002, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by Null
unpossible? :hmm:

*goes off to get dictionary* :p

You know I said that purposely, right?;)

Null

11-13-2002, 08:59 PM

that? :hmm:

*goes off to get a dictionary*

dwelzy

11-14-2002, 01:30 PM

um u guys do know that rare is makin games for the gba, u can check that out right here
http://www.rareware.com/scribes/index.html

TheGame

11-14-2002, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by dwelzy
um u guys do know that rare is makin games for the gba, u can check that out right here
http://www.rareware.com/scribes/index.html

Duh... Microsoft themselves are supposed to be making games for GBA. They just don't view it as competition.

Null

11-14-2002, 05:18 PM

thats because there is no competition for GBA.

and thats a smart thing to do. they may be helping nintendo out. but they are not helping thier competition.

since they dont make portables. why not make some money from the portable market in different ways.

Dyne

11-14-2002, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by Null
thats because there is no competition for GBA.

and thats a smart thing to do. they may be helping nintendo out. but they are not helping thier competition.

since they dont make portables. why not make some money from the portable market in different ways.

We've got the N-gage from Nokia coming, we've got the Gamepark32 from a Korean company already, and we even have a 64-bit Ericsson handheld coming soon.

GBA will have competition. The Gamepark32 is out, just they're having trouble with lisences. There's REAL hot water ahead.

DeathsHand

11-14-2002, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by Dyne
There's REAL hot water ahead.

Was that sarcasm or were you being serious? :unsure:

Dyne

11-14-2002, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by DeathsHand
Was that sarcasm or were you being serious? :unsure:

It's hot water because Nintendo is gonna have to turn up the heat to kill the competition.:p

And if MS leaves the GBA in the cold, well, good riddance. Let them be burned by Nintendo's portable wrath. If MS wants to stay in, there's gonna have to be some kind of partnership!;)

Null

11-14-2002, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by Dyne
We've got the N-gage from Nokia coming, we've got the Gamepark32 from a Korean company already, and we even have a 64-bit Ericsson handheld coming soon.

as i said.

no competition for GBA.

:p

TheGame

11-14-2002, 10:47 PM

Gameboy is like Playstation... it has competition, but is it a real threat? I mean, if the old funky pixel screen GB could kill Game Gear.... I don't think any handheld with Nintendo's mark on it could fail.

Null

11-14-2002, 11:35 PM

a company would have to wait years down the road. when nintendo talks of making a new GB.

get the jump on them. market like CRAZY, and get it out before nintendo gets thiers out.

theres no way a company releasing a hand held now is gunna do anything. GBA is doing heavily good right now. its a poor idea to release a new hand held at this point in the GBA's life.

i mean even if people like it, the way GBA is selling, people are gunna be like.. . wow, i like that new one, but i JUST bought the GBA. oh well, wait and see how the new one does. and slowly it will fail.

GameKinG

11-14-2002, 11:46 PM

When you think about it, Sony has 70+% of its market, and GBA has 90+% of its. So its even less likely that competition will make its mark. Especially when GBA has so many developers on it, and will probably sell through the roof this season.

TheGame

11-15-2002, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by GameKinG
When you think about it, Sony has 70+% of its market, and GBA has 90+% of its. So its even less likely that competition will make its mark. Especially when GBA has so many developers on it, and will probably sell through the roof this season.

If you think about it, Sony's grip may be a bit stronger... cause Sony right now has two competitors... both of which market thier systems near as good, and both that have equal developer support... and stronger hardware, and easier development :p

GBA hasn't really had to deal with Realistic competition yet. They crushed Game Gear, but wh expects Sega to sucseed at anything financially?

DeathsHand

11-15-2002, 02:27 AM

Originally posted by TheGame
If you think about it, Sony's grip may be a bit stronger... cause Sony right now has two competitors... both of which market thier systems near as good, and both that have equal developer support... and stronger hardware, and easier development :p

GBA hasn't really had to deal with Realistic competition yet. They crushed Game Gear, but wh expects Sega to sucseed at anything financially?

Unless maybe Sony makes a nice handheld with fairly good graphics that doesn't suck up batteries and has some very good developer support, and names it something with "Playstation" in the title, I doubt anything else would stand much of a chance against a gameboy system... *shrugs*

Null

11-15-2002, 09:45 AM

actually. when you think of the name sony has built up for themselves gaming wise around the world........... they very well could be the only ones that could make a portable system to overtake Nintendo's. people would buy it off its name alone.. that cant be said for the ones Dyne mentioned or bandi's wonderswan or whatever. people are just like who or what the hell is that?