Summerslam thoughs and predictions

[nWoCHRISnWo]

Well Summerslam is right around the corner and if it's payoff is as big as it's hype, then it'll surely live up to Summerslam's "second biggest PPV of the year" billing. With outstanding matches such as Bret Hart versus his brother in the cage, Bret hart against his brother in-law in England, and the first TLC, this year's Summerslam looks to deliver some more historical matchups...

The Un-Americans vs Booker T and Goldust
I'll take a guess with this being the opener of the show. The build-up has been alright for this match, and I expect a good match from them considering three of them are good workers, and all of them are damn entertaining. Booker and Goldust are mad-over right now, but I still think Christian and Lance Storm will retain the belts here, especially seeing as how this match is on the card...

Test vs Undertaker
I think these are two of the best big men in the business right now, but I expect this to be the worst match of the card (and I still think it's gonna be an okay match). The build-up is there, and Test has already cleanly pinned UT, so I think it's a sure victory for the American Badass, Undertaker.

Kurt Angle vs Rey Mysterio
Even with this huge contrast in style, this match will rule. I don't think there's even a question here of who'll be the winner, unless they let Rey win by some huge fluke, then have Angle pissed at the "12 year old" and beat his ass real good next PPV, which I doubt will happen... So put me down for Kurt Angle here.

Edge vs Eddie Guerrero
Not a lot of build-up here, but it'll likely be a great match. I'm not a very big fan of face-Edge, with someone like Eddie you can guarantee yourself that you'll be entertained. With the big push they're giving Edge lately, I can't help but think Edge is going to get the pin.

Chris Jericho vs Ric Flair
"Raw is JERICHO!" Best... line... ever. I can't wait for this. Both are very similar, as a lot of people claim Jericho as this generation's Flair. They both have the charisma and skill to make this one great, even with Flair being north of 50 (the line JR used, not to be confused with the show about indians "North of 60"). Who will be the dirtiest player in this match? With Flair's career almost over and Jericho not having picked up a major victory in a LONG time, I think it's best that WWE goes with Jericho here. Of course, it was also best to have Jericho beat Triple H in the HIAC match but...

Triple H vs Shawn Michaels
Okay build-up, seeing as how these guys have history dating back five years. It seems EVERYONE wants to see this match, so that's good I guess, but these guys are my two most hated wrestlers in history. Of course, only a blind and/or retarded person couldn't see that they've both had some awesome matches, but HBK isn't the show-stoppah no more like he said, and Triple H hasn't exactly been anything other than "boring as hell" in recent memory. I see Triple H winning this, because... Well It's Triple H, when doesn't he win?

Chris Benoit vs RVD - Intercontinental Championship
Can you say "match of the year" people? If given enough time, this could possibly be that. There's no way that this match WON'T kick all kinds of ass, and I absolutely can't wait for it. I hope my current favourite wrestler, and hometown hero (:D) the Canadian Crippler keeps the IC belt here, and judging by Raw and SD recently, I can't decide on what my prediction is... On one hand, RVD lost to Benoit three weeks ago, and Benoit has been awesome in making the Rock tap like a bitch already, but then again it looks like SD is the better environment for the IC Belt, and RVD got that little "beating" by the Big Show on Monday... Meh, I'll just go with the Whole F'n Show on this one, unfortantely.

The Rock vs Brock Lesnar - WWE Undisputed Championship
The build-up for this match was amazing, and, not being a big fan of the Rock at all, I'm definitely looking forward to this match. While a part of me thinks the Rock will beat this rookie monster and Vince will grin as he swerves everyone with these huge odds agains the Rock (both in and out of storylines- Rock has the injured ribs and is leaving for another movie soon), I want Brock to win this so much that I'll just go with him. Hopefully Brock can pull out a shooting star press here, the fans would be amazed for sure.

This should be one of the best PPV's in WWF(E) history in my opinion if everyone's on their game, I just wish there was a crusierweight match here for a little more variety. Anyhoo, none of the matches look bad at all, most have great build-up, and they pretty much all have a great fan interest to go along with them. Plus, this is the first PPV in a long time that predicting is hard to do. I think the three best matches of the show should be the IC title match, Angle/Rey Rey, and Jericho/Flair.

[BreakABone]

Just remember, they can always add a Cruiserweight/Women's title match to the card over the weekend or on Heat, but you are correct. The card for this show looks great from top to bottom. Now if the WWE can just deliver the top quality product.


As for the matches:

I don't know, traditionally opens usually go to tag titles or Intercontentinel title defense (I mean WM 18,17,11 and some others started with them) so I think that RVD/Benoit is a bit more upper class than Tag Title match thus it may start the show. I have to give the Edge to Booker T/Goldust on this one. I mean they got beat on Raw and the generally rule of thumb is the folks who go down before the PPV will win.

Test vs the UnderTaker, I don't know how this will work. The best bet goes on the result of the tag title match. I mean it won't do anything for the UnAmericans if they lose both of their PPV matches. So the money is on Test to win.

I say that Angle wins this one even though it won't phase him much either way,. Maybe, he'll get that feud with Brock they were teasing.

I say Edge wins.


I'll talk more about my predictions tomorrow but here are thew rest"
Jericho
HHH
Benoit
Rock

[Jonbo298]

I want the Rock to win, but I see Brock taking it for some reason. I think the WWE is trying to make him the next "Stone Cold".:unsure:

[Bond]

WWE.com didn't post their long detailed summaries of each match for SummerSlam, so I'll just give you the winners of each match this time:

Kurt Angle vs. Rey Mysterio
Winner: Kurt Angle

Chris Jericho vs. Ric Flair
Winner: Ric Flair

Eddie Guerrero vs. Edge
Winner: Edge

Christian & Lance Storm vs. Booker T & Goldust
Winner: Christian & Lance Storm

Rob Van Dam vs. Chris Benoit
Winner: Rob Van Dam

The Undertaker vs. Test
Winner: The Undertaker

Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels
Winner: Shawn Michaels

Brock Lesnar vs. The Rock
Winner: Brock Lesnar

[Trowser]

I heard that the Michaels,HHH match was great and The Rock got booed and lost.Ha!

[TheGame]

"The most anticipated World Championship match in recent history began with The Rock sprinting to the ring and getting right down to business with The Next Big Thing. Brock, however, was ready and took early control with a backbreaker and a series of shoulders To The Rock's ribs.

The action quickly spilled outside the ring and Paul Heyman, Brock's agent, got in a few cheap shots before Brock continued to force the action.

The Rock attempted a comeback, but Heyman was there once again to make sure that Lesnar stayed in control. Lesnar maintained control with a simple but brutal attack before The Rock sucked out of a shoulder charge and Lesner went shoulder first into the ring post.

The Rock attempted several clotheslines before getting Lesnar off his feet. The Rock then went for the Sharpshooter, but Heyman interfered again. The Rock then got the Sharpshooter on Lesnar, but Lesnar refused to tap. Heyman then was brought in the ring the hard way, but the interference allowed Lesnar to recover and nail The Rock with a steel chair to the ribs.

Brock tried to squeeze the life out of The Rock with a bear hug before turning into a suplex. Brock then used his amateur skills and rode The Rock for several minutes. The Rock appeared out of it and referee Mike Chioda counted one, two, but before he could get to three, The Rock fought back and broke Lesnar's vise grip.

The Rock countered with a shot to the groin, but Lesnar then hit two straight shoulder into a prone Rock. On Lesnar's third attempt, Rock ducked and Lesnar hit the ring post with his exposed shoulder.

The Rock then took the offensive and cleared the Spanish announce table of its monitors. Paul Heyman then felt what it's like to be on the receiving end of a Rock Bottom on the announce table.

The Rock then hit the Rock Bottom on Lesnar, but Lesnar kicked out at two. Lesnar countered with a Rock Bottom of his own, bit only managed a two count.

the Rock hit a Spinebuster and then went for the People's Elbow, but Lesnar got up and clotheslined the champion.

Lesnar hits the F-5 and wins the Undisputed Champion! "

Winner and New Undisputed Champion, Brock Lesnar


How disapointing... I don't like brock lesnar... and why did they have to save a clean championship win for him???? He's a nobody...

and then... on the other hand... Tripple H lost to Shawn Michaels... CLEAN???!?!?!?!

wtf is wrong with the WWE???

*thinks about retireing from watching WWF/E*

[Bond]

Yeah, well, there is always Monday Night Football...

[nWoCHRISnWo]

Soooo Summerslam kicked ass. Brock Lesnar acsolutely destroyed the Rock, and pinned his ass cleanly. That is what I call a great ending to a PPV. And for two guys I hate, I gotta admit, Triple H vs Michaels was that damn good. Benoit/RVD was great, maybe not as good as I was expecting, but I still loved every minute of it (except the ending, Benoit should win every match :mad:). Angle vs Rey was great as well, but kinda short and not as good as I thought it'd be. The other matches were all alright too, overall Summerslam was very entertaining. Wooooo.

[Trowser]

Its good the Rock lost.He was a terrible champion.

[BigJustinW]

Originally posted by Trowser
Its good the Rock lost.He was a terrible champion.

At least The Rock can make a decent promo... Lensar rarely talks, and he isn't funny. Hell, even undertaker is funny at times... "say what if you sleep with your sister" Crowd: "What! errr BOOOOOO"

[nWoCHRISnWo]

You don't need to have the best mic skills, hopefully this means less time with the champion making 20 minute promos and more time having 20 minute matches. Which reminds me, Brock Lesnar is a damn good wrestler, and that's exactly what the champ should be. He's huge and intimidating, and without being great on the mic that sometimes works (Just like Chris Benoit's "silent ass kicker" thingy). Besides, Brock has Paul Heyman with him at all times, and Paul Heyman is a master mic worker.

[TheGame]

Originally posted by nWoCHRISnWo
You don't need to have the best mic skills, hopefully this means less time with the champion making 20 minute promos and more time having 20 minute matches.

But still, the champ should have more carisma... you saw how well WWE was doing when Big show was the champ. That had to be the longest most boring champoinship run ever... why? because he lacked skills on the mic, and he never built himself up to the status he had to hold.

Goldberg is an example of a silent champion. The only difference is that goldberg started out on WCW Saturday night, and worked himself up the ranks to become champion. Oh, and even then, he wasn't the most exciting champ to wacth was he?

I look at Lensar, and I see a guy who debut less than a year ago, won no other champoinships, and never defeated a WWE champ on the big stage (if I'm wrong prove it please)... Why is he a worthy champ?

Lets look at the other options... Undertaker, Tripple H, Shawn Michaels, The Rock, Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, hell, any of those guys have a better resume than Brock... and before each of them won thier first titles they still had a better resume.

Then there are the people never to hold the belt who deserve a chance: Chris Beniot, ROB VAN DAM, Booker T, Test... He doesn't deserve it half as much as any of these guys. Not to mention they let him beat the biggest guy in the industry clean

Which reminds me, Brock Lesnar is a damn good wrestler, and that's exactly what the champ should be. He's huge and intimidating, and without being great on the mic that sometimes works (Just like Chris Benoit's "silent ass kicker" thingy). Besides, Brock has Paul Heyman with him at all times, and Paul Heyman is a master mic worker.

Chris Beniot talks... and Brock should learn some skills of his own before he starts sounding as dumb as Goldberg.

[Jar Jar]

How exactly is The Rock a terrible champion?

I'm a newbie here but so far you (as well as others) seem like the typical Internet fan. :rolleyes:

[BreakABone]

Well, justin makes some good points on the whole Brock Lesnar thing. I personally think that he hasn't done anything to earn or to deserve the heavyweight title. He came into the Federation (WWE) in like March of this year and within 5 months he became Heavyweight champ?

I mean it wasn't because he was helluva over with the crowd( He is a heel getting cheers), not that he was the most charismatic person, heck not even that he was a monster. He has two (Yes two) big wins in his career and one of them was him winning his WWE belt, the other was Hogan. The King of the Ring thing was blah.

As for Justin's other choices:

HHH= I think he is trying to build some following as a heel again, I mean that little face run didn't make him seem like much of a bad ass anymore.

HBK= had a great match at SummerSlam, but I can't see him putting on that type of performance often and as a champ he will have to do a lot more than just PPV in this day and age.

The Rock=Going to film his movie in a few weeks. Not much sense to have him be the main guy in his "part time" job".

Test=bwhahahhah

The rest is pretty solid. I don't know, I think Flair could still go?

[Bond]

I read somewhere where the WWE was seriously considering pushing Flair for a main event guy or whatever, but they thought he was just simply too old and couldn't do weekly matches. He still does wrestle great for his age though.

Hey, there is always Kurt Angle too. He hasn't had a belt in a long time.

[nWoCHRISnWo]

I really hate the logic "what has he done to pay his dues?" What exactly does one need to do to "earn" the title? Seeing as how pro wrestling is pre-determinded, it's kinda hard to determine if someone has earned their spot or not.

And how is putting the title on some new blood that bad? We get totally new, fresh feuds and matches this way. I dunno about you guys, but it sure as hell beats having the Rock as eight million time champ or Triple H as champ again.

[TheGame]

Originally posted by nWoCHRISnWo
I really hate the logic "what has he done to pay his dues?" What exactly does one need to do to "earn" the title?

He doesn't have to do anything to earn the title, cept suck Vince's dick... but he has to do somthing to deserve the title.

Seeing as how pro wrestling is pre-determinded, it's kinda hard to determine if someone has earned their spot or not.

Not for me, it's simple... A wrestler has to have a long history of being a good wrestler, he would also had to have fought in some type of big matches, and he would have to had earned the respect of the crowd (as a heel or a face).

And how is putting the title on some new blood that bad? We get totally new, fresh feuds and matches this way. I dunno about you guys, but it sure as hell beats having the Rock as eight million time champ or Triple H as champ again.

I'm not saying make Triple H or The Rock the champ again, I'm saying that if a new guy is going to get the belt by beating the best in the industry CLEAN it shouldn't be Brock... someone who deserves it is more like RVD or Beniot, not some guy who came half a year ago and has never really been in a big battle.