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Bond
08-08-2002, 10:25 AM
http://www.teamxbox.com/images/dailyposts/halo2logo.jpg

After Halo shipped, a lot of people assumed they knew what Bungie would do next. "Of course they'll do a sequel to Halo," went the prevailing wisdom. "They'd be stupid not to capitalize on the success of the first game. And there are so many loose ends to tie up. Yeah, there's definitely a sequel in the works." So it may not come as a surprise to you, dear readers, that we formally announced Halo 2 at X02 in New York City this morning.

I think I can assume that anyone reading about Halo 2 on Bungie's own Halo site probably knows the basics already. You already know Halo 2 is the sequel to Halo. You already know Halo walked off with a ton of rave reviews and Game-of-the-Year awards. You already know the bar has been raised and expectations for a sequel are high. You already know Bungie has no intention of disappointing anyone.

What you really want to know is: "What does it look like? What's new? What's the solo campaign all about? What about multiplayer?" And of course the all-important "When can I get my hands on it?"

The game itself is everything you loved about the original Halo, but with all the knobs turned up to 11 this time round. This is not a quickie "Halo 1.5" follow-up using the same engine. We are using a completely rewritten graphics engine which allows our artists to work in previously unimaginable complexity and detail. Anyone who thinks the original Halo stretched the Xbox's graphical abilities to the limit is mistaken. There are gorgeous new realms to be explored, and Halo 2 will take you there. There will be several new weapons in addition to the reliable old standards from the first game. Not to mention the new vehicles you'll ride into battle. Or the many new enemies you'll face. If you had a hard time with the handful of Covenant races you met in the first game, you may wish to start practicing now; you'll need it when they unleash the rest of their army.

Halo 2 returns you to the role of the Master Chief - still humanity's best weapon against the Covenant. Their defeat at Halo was only temporary, and they are pursuing their goal - the complete obliteration of humankind - with renewed zeal. Human military forces are exhausted and unable to stave off the Covenant's rapid advance toward Earth. Even with the Master Chief back in action, the situation looks dire - and this is at the beginning of the game, before things get a lot worse. In true Bungie tradition, the solo campaign in Halo 2 deepens and expands upon the story that began in the first game: old questions will be answered, new mysteries will unfold, and the truly epic nature of the story will finally be revealed.

Multiplayer is an entirely different kettle of fish. Halo 2 is designed from the ground up to support internet multiplayer games over Xbox Live™. You're no longer limited to playing LAN games against friends who live nearby. What's more, the multiplayer experience is being completely redesigned. The first Halo offered just a glimpse of what we originally had in mind; now, in Halo 2, our designers' vision will come to glorious, explosive fruition.

First Screen Shots:

http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/screenshots/scrn_109.jpg

http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/screenshots/scrn_110.jpg

http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/screenshots/scrn_111.jpg

http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/screenshots/scrn_112.jpg

http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/screenshots/scrn_113.jpg

http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/screenshots/scrn_114.jpg

http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/screenshots/scrn_115.jpg

Bungie has also made some very nice desktops for Halo 2 here:
http://www.bungie.net/perlbin/blam.pl?file=/site/1/site/halo/features/desktops04.html&

Professor S
08-08-2002, 11:25 AM
This is probably a stupid question, but any word on a release date?

Crono
08-08-2002, 11:30 AM
Games like these make me want an Xbox. :( Too bad I can't afford it. I'll have to wait until I get a job...

gekko
08-08-2002, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by The Strangler
This is probably a stupid question, but any word on a release date?

I heard late 2003.

Bond
08-08-2002, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by The Strangler
This is probably a stupid question, but any word on a release date?
2003 holiday season seems to be the release date going around.

gekko
08-08-2002, 12:23 PM
BUNGIE ANNOUNCES "HALO 2" FOR XBOX

NEW YORK — Aug. 8, 2002 — Bungie Studios, Microsoft Game Studios' premiere 1st party game-development studio, today ended rampant speculation by officially announcing "Halo 2" for the Xbox™ video game system. Members of the press were treated to their first look at this sequel to Bungie's award-winning "Halo: Combat Evolved™", Electronic Gaming Magazine's "Game of the Year", game during "X02", a Microsoft press event held in New York City.

"Halo 2" continues the story of the Master Chief, a genetically enhanced super-soldier who is the only human ever to successfully defy the Covenant—a coalition of alien races on a murderous march toward Earth. To the mysterious leaders of the Covenant, the human victory at the ancient ring structure known as Halo was an unacceptable failure. They will not fail again.

"Halo 2" surpasses its predecessor in graphical beauty and combat intensity. "'Halo 2' is a lot like 'Halo', only it's 'Halo' on fire, going 130 miles per hour through a hospital zone, being chased by helicopters and ninjas," explained Jason Jones, the head of Bungie Studios, "and the ninjas are all on fire, too." The Master Chief and his marine allies return to battle the full complement of Covenant forces, as well as as-of-yet-unrevealed foes.

"Halo 2" expands the Master Chief's already substantial arsenal with powerful new weapons, many pried from the twitching claws of his defeated enemies. This sequel also increases Halo's number of drivable vehicles giving players many more ways to speed into battle or explore the game's vast landscapes.

"Halo 2" is powered by a completely new graphics engine designed specifically for the Xbox hardware. "Our code squeezes every drop of power out of the Xbox," said Chris Butcher, one of "Halo 2's" engineering leads. "We're doing dynamic lighting and shadows, per-pixel everything, rendering gigantic, lush environments. The graphical features we're using are so advanced we don't even have buzzwords for them yet."

In addition to an epic single-player campaign, "Halo 2" has support for multiplayer action via split-screen, Xbox "System-Link" and online through Microsoft's "Xbox Live™" service. "We still have the multiplayer game-types that people loved in 'Halo', but we're planning something special for multiplayer in 'Halo 2,'" hinted Jaime Griesemer, "Halo 2's" lead designer. "I don't want to ruin the surprise, but imagine the essential 'Halo' single-player experience: pitched battles between the humans and the Covenant, massive vehicle and infantry engagements. Now imagine that every combatant is an actual person playing over Xbox Live!" "Halo 2's" online multiplayer will feature squad-oriented team-play, real-time voice chat and extensive community support when it ships at the end of next year.

An official, downloadable version of the "Halo 2" announcement trailer will be available soon. This is the same trailer shown to the press at Microsoft's X02 event, and features two-and-a-half minutes of in-engine footage as well as an original musical score by Bungie's award-winning composer, Martin O'Donnell. For now, please head to http://www.bungie.net or click the links on the left for exclusive screenshots from the trailer.


About Bungie Studios

Bungie was founded in 1991 with two goals: to develop games that combine brilliant technology, beautiful art, intelligent stories and deep gameplay, and then sell enough of those games to achieve the real goal of total world domination. Over the last 10 years it produced games like the Marathon Trilogy and the first two Myth games, hailed as classics by critics and gamers around the world. "Halo: Combat Evolved," its latest game, has achieved phenomenal success on the Microsoft Xbox video game system. More information on Bungie can be found at http://www.bungie.net.


About Microsoft Game Studios

Microsoft Game Studios is a leading worldwide publisher and developer of games for the PC, Xbox video game system and online platforms. Comprising a network of top developers, Microsoft Game Studios is committed to creating innovative and diverse game portfolios for the PC (http://www.microsoft.com/games/), including such franchises as "Age of Empires®," "Flight Simulator" and "Zoo Tycoon™"; Xbox (http://www.xbox.com/), including such franchises as "Halo™," "Project Gotham Racing™" and "NFL Fever"; and Zone.com (http://zone.msn.com/), the official games channel for the MSN® network and home to such hits as "Bejeweled" and "OutSmart the official games channel for the MSN® network and home to such hits as "Bejeweled" and "OutSmart".

gekko
08-08-2002, 12:28 PM
Adding this to the threads about both games...

Hail to the Master Chief! "Halo 2" Is Coming to an Xbox Near You
Microsoft Game Studios Announces "Halo 2" and "Project Gotham Racing 2," Highly Anticipated Sequels to Top-Selling Xbox Games

NEW YORK — Aug. 8, 2002 — It's time again for gamers to assume the role of Master Chief, protecting humanity with a powerful armory of guns and grenades as they battle the relentless Covenant scourge. It's also time for gamers to be among the first to grab the steering wheel of a shiny new Enzo Ferrari and race through the streets of some of the world's most exotic cities.

Microsoft Corp. today announced at the X02 North America event that "Halo™ 2" and "Project Gotham Racing™ 2," sequels to best-selling Xbox™ games from Microsoft Game Studios, are in development for the Xbox video game system. "Halo 2," developed by Bungie Studios, is expected to arrive on store shelves for the 2003 holiday season, and "Project Gotham Racing 2," developed by Bizarre Creations, is due in early 2004.

"Halo 2," a sci-fi action/first-person shooter game, is a full sequel to the best-selling original and will continue the story of the Master Chief, a genetically enhanced supersoldier who is the only man that has successfully defied the Covenant, a coalition of alien races on a murderous march toward Earth. "Halo 2" surpasses its predecessor both in graphical beauty and combat intensity. The Master Chief and his marine allies return to battle the full complement of Covenant forces, as well as new enemies who have not yet revealed themselves. "Halo 2" also expands the Master Chief's already substantial arsenal with powerful new weapons, many pried from the twitching claws of defeated enemies, as well as more than twice as many drivable vehicles for exploring vast landscapes or speeding into battle. In addition to its epic single-player campaign, "Halo 2" will be playable online through Xbox Live.

"Project Gotham Racing 2" returns to city streets with new fully licensed vehicles from major car manufacturers including Ferrari and Porsche. This engaging racing game sequel includes more than 50 vehicles as well as new cities, including Edinburgh, Scotland, and Hong Kong. More ways to earn Kudos will be available, as well as a new rating system, a more accurate way to rank players rather than just by the number of Kudos they have earned. "Project Gotham Racing 2" also enables gamers to play online through the Xbox Live service.

"There's only one thing better than announcing a sequel to a million-seller," said Ed Fries, vice president of Xbox Game Content at Microsoft Game Studios. "And that's announcing sequels to two 1-million-unit-selling games. Our 'Halo' and 'Project Gotham Racing' franchises have redefined the shooter and racing categories around the world with innovation, great gameplay and pure fun. 'Halo 2' and 'Project Gotham Racing 2' will build on these legacies with awesome new features and the thrill of playing anyone anywhere using Xbox Live."

"Halo: Combat Evolved" reached the 1-million-units-sold mark faster than any other Xbox game in North America and was named Game of the Year by the Academy of Interactive Arts and Sciences, Electronic Gaming Monthly and IGN.com. "Project Gotham Racing" was nominated for Console Racing Game of the Year by the Academy of Interactive Arts and Sciences. It joined the select million-seller club during the past month.

At the X02 North America event, third-party publishers such as Electronic Arts™, Sega® of America Inc. and Capcom® showed off their holiday titles, and Bose Corp. is helping Xbox showcase the power of the console's unique Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound capabilities through the use of the new Bose Freestyle audio system.

Gamers don't have to wait until 2003; they can get their fix of great Xbox games this holiday season with "Blinx™: The Time Sweeper," "Brute Force™," "Kakuto Chojin™," "MechAssault™," "NBA Inside Drive 2003," "NFL Fever 2003" (available now), "Quantum Redshift™," "Sega Sports™ NFL 2K3" (Sega® of America), "Panzer Dragoon™ Orta" (Sega® of America), "Shenmue II," "Sneakers™," "Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell™" (Ubi Soft® Entertainment), "Unreal Championship" (Infogrames), and "Whacked!™."

About Bungie Studios

Bungie was founded in 1991 with two goals: to develop games that combine brilliant technology, beautiful art, intelligent stories and deep gameplay, and then sell enough of those games to achieve the real goal of total world domination. Over the last 10 years it produced games like the Marathon Trilogy and the first two Myth games, hailed as classics by critics and gamers around the world. "Halo: Combat Evolved," its latest game, has achieved phenomenal success on the Microsoft Xbox video game system. More information on Bungie can be found at http://www.bungie.net/.

About Microsoft Game Studios

Microsoft Game Studios is a leading worldwide publisher and developer of games for the PC, Xbox video game system and online platforms. Comprising a network of top developers, Microsoft Game Studios is committed to creating innovative and diverse game portfolios for the PC (http://www.microsoft.com/games/), including such franchises as "Age of Empires®," "Flight Simulator" and "Zoo Tycoon™"; Xbox (http://www.xbox.com/), including such franchises as "Halo™," "Project Gotham Racing™" and "NFL Fever"; and Zone.com (http://zone.msn.com/), the official games channel for the MSN® network and home to such hits as "Bejeweled" and "OutSmart™."

About Xbox

Xbox (http://www.xbox.com/) is Microsoft's future-generation video game system that delivers the most powerful games experiences ever. Xbox empowers game artists by giving them the technology to fulfill their creative visions as never before, creating games that blur the lines between fantasy and reality. Xbox is now available in North America, Japan, Europe and Australia.

About Microsoft

Founded in 1975, Microsoft (Nasdaq "MSFT") is the worldwide leader in software, services and Internet technologies for personal and business computing. The company offers a wide range of products and services designed to empower people through great software — any time, any place and on any device.

Old Skool
08-08-2002, 12:51 PM
WoW ..................................................................WoW .............................. :WHOA: :WHOA: :WHOA: :WHOA: We love you Xbox!
:D

Shadow_Link
08-08-2002, 01:21 PM
This is definately only one of the few games I'll be getting for my Xbox. I wonder if this game will support the keypbard and mouse?

Joeiss
08-08-2002, 01:49 PM
This game looks sweet.... I can't wait to try it out. Halo was amazing, I expect nothing less from Halo 2.

Perfect Stu
08-08-2002, 03:05 PM
Sweet! Halo 2! W0000000!

*passes out*

gekko
08-08-2002, 03:25 PM
MS has released some Halo media. Screens that have been posted, and then Masterchief art.

http://homepage.mac.com/behlert/Halo2/0screenshot00.tif

http://homepage.mac.com/behlert/Halo2/1screenshot00.tif

DarkDemonic726
08-08-2002, 04:30 PM
THE GRAPHICS ROCK!!! ANYWORD OF THE STORY OF HALO 2?

Professor S
08-09-2002, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by Shadow_Link
This is definately only one of the few games I'll be getting for my Xbox. I wonder if this game will support the keypbard and mouse?

Wow, Shadow Link ws actually able to cram in a shot against ther XBox while talking about actually purchasing a game for it. That there is some good verbal gymnastics.

Bond
08-09-2002, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by The Strangler


Wow, Shadow Link ws actually able to cram in a shot against ther XBox while talking about actually purchasing a game for it. That there is some good verbal gymnastics.
Yeah, well, he may have been serious. Normally he adds the 'rolls eyes' smilie into any of his sarcastic posts, so you never know.

But if you were serious it will most likely not support a keyboard and mouse.

Shadow_Link
08-09-2002, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by The Strangler


Wow, Shadow Link ws actually able to cram in a shot against ther XBox while talking about actually purchasing a game for it. That there is some good verbal gymnastics.

Wow, once again the over sensitive xbox fanboy comes to the rescue... for some odd reason :unsure:.

Oh wait, sorry for being 'too hasty', you're not a fanboy.

Did I offend you in any way in my previous post?

May I ask what 'shot' I took at the Xbox? Sorry, but I'm not one of those sad people who get a rush out of 'insulting' consoles.

And Bond, I wasn't sarcastic. It was a serious question, I don't understand how you could think otherwise :confused:.

I hope the game supports the keyboard (if the keyboard is released before the game that is :D).

Professor S
08-09-2002, 02:06 PM
I was referring to the "few games" part of your post. For someone who spent so much money on your XBox, you sure do seem to love to hate it, and I'm not just referring to what you wrote in this post alone. Some might think you bought one for the sole reason that it gives you an valid excuse to criticize it.

I'd be interested in hearing how "few" XBox games you'll have come Christmas time.

Shadow_Link
08-09-2002, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by The Strangler
I was referring to the "few games" part of your post. For someone who spent so much money on your XBox, you sure do seem to love to hate it, and I'm not just referring to what you wrote in this post alone. Some might think you bought one for the sole reason that it gives you an valid excuse to criticize it.

I'd be interested in hearing how "few" XBox games you'll have come Christmas time.

All I can do is laugh at you. When ever did I say I 'hated' the Xbox? I don't know how anyone can 'hate' an object. If I don't hate people, how can I really hate an object?

It may have been a criticism, but it wasn't 'intentional', and I didn't know anyone would see it as a 'shot' towards the Xbox.

Look, everyone has a 'different' taste in games, so I can't be 'interested' in every game you are. I'm not going to lie and say I'm interested in a lot of games for the Xbox.

I would buy a game 'I' am interested in for the Xbox, and unfortnately (:rolleyes: ) I'm not interested in as many games as you are. As it stands, I will be buying the following for the Xbox:

Project Ego (Fable)
BC
Halo 2
Maybe Splinter Cell
Maybe UC (if it's atleast as good as UT2...)
Panzer Dragoon.

That is on top of Halo and JSRF.

Please don't shove a list of Xbox games in my face which 'you' are interested in , because Bond has kindly shown me a list before (which i actually appreciated).

Who knows, maybe in time more games that are suited to my taste will appear on the Xbox.

Perfect Stu
08-09-2002, 04:02 PM
Shadow...you stand out a lot for a closet fanboy...

Shadow_Link
08-09-2002, 04:06 PM
What a surprise, always either Stu or Strangler.

What was the actual point of that post?

Call me what you want, I really don't care. What did I actually type that gave you that impression? Wait a minute, spare me, I heard it before, now before this topic gets any further off topic (owing that to Strangler), could we just either stay 'on topic' or not post at all?

Perfect Stu
08-09-2002, 05:23 PM
listen man, you're a good person and a great poster and I respect you an all that, but you gotta lose the act...you didn't have to say "only one of the few games I'll be getting for my Xbox...you could have just said "I will definately be getting this game for my XBox" but no...

it's quite obvious...I mean, there's nothing wrong with being a fanboy as long as you don't blatantly bash other systems or games and praise Nintendo in a sickening way, WHICH YOU DON'T...but stop pretending like you have just as much an open mind towards the XBox and PS2 as you do the Gamecube.

Bond
08-09-2002, 05:54 PM
Has anyone noticed all the Halo threads morph into fights?

gekko
08-09-2002, 05:58 PM
Cause Halo sux0rz, and cause it's an overrated piece of ****. Halo for Mac in Fall 2003, w00t!!!!!!

I dunno. I just find it relaxing that I'm not in this one :D

Shadow_Link
08-09-2002, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by Perfect Stu
listen man, you're a good person and a great poster and I respect you an all that, but you gotta lose the act...you didn't have to say "only one of the few games I'll be getting for my Xbox...you could have just said "I will definately be getting this game for my XBox" but no...

it's quite obvious...I mean, there's nothing wrong with being a fanboy as long as you don't blatantly bash other systems or games and praise Nintendo in a sickening way, WHICH YOU DON'T...but stop pretending like you have just as much an open mind towards the XBox and PS2 as you do the Gamecube.

I know you weren't bashing me as a person. But I still don't get what you're on about... What act? :confused:

This is a forum after all isn't it? A place to voice your opinions. I wouldn't go as far as to say I'm a fanboy, if a preferrence towards Nintendo 'games' is being a fanboy, then so be it. From what I understand, a fanboy is a person who is totally oblivious to the facts concerning other consoles, not to mention a pure, non identifiable and childish hatred towards other consoles. A fanboy is also someone who likes the console more than the games on it.

I'm not going to use the 'I have all three consoles' to prove that I 'do' have an open mind. If an open mind to you means liking all three consoles equally, then i can't agree with you there. By searching for information on each consoles, I do admit the GameCube interested me the most.

If you were to ask me to rate the catalogue of games for each system at the moment, the PS2 would be first in no uncertain temrs, with either the GC or the Xbox 2nd or third 'based on peoples tastes, as both systems have brilliant games that appeal to different sorts.

If you were to ask me, based on the information at hand, to rate each consoles catalogue of games at the end of this generation, I would pick the GC, followed very closely by the PS2, and the Xbox at third.

So, I consider my self to be open minded, and not a fanboy, but someone who, based on his own opinion, happens to like a certain consoles catalogue of games/future games moreso than that of the other consoles. And I am 100% sure that basically everyone prefers the games on one system more than the games on another.

I assure you I'm not putting any sort of act on. If you think otherwise, it doesn't really bother me.

Oh and Bond, I had no intention whatsoever in turning this into an argument. I merely stated my interest in the game, and asked whether or not it would support the keyboard and mosue that is being released for the Xbox.

Nine Inch Nail
08-10-2002, 02:58 PM
I'm glad Bungie isn't just making Halo 1.5, and trying to get it out as soon as deadly possible. Bungie is using a completely new game engine built from scratch (supposedly an unimaginable engine before now), and it definitely shows in these screenshots...

When is this "trailer" gonna be available to the public!!?? :mad:

-NIN

Professor S
08-10-2002, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by Shadow_Link


I know you weren't bashing me as a person. But I still don't get what you're on about... What act? :confused:

This is a forum after all isn't it? A place to voice your opinions. I wouldn't go as far as to say I'm a fanboy, if a preferrence towards Nintendo 'games' is being a fanboy, then so be it. From what I understand, a fanboy is a person who is totally oblivious to the facts concerning other consoles, not to mention a pure, non identifiable and childish hatred towards other consoles. A fanboy is also someone who likes the console more than the games on it.

I'm not going to use the 'I have all three consoles' to prove that I 'do' have an open mind. If an open mind to you means liking all three consoles equally, then i can't agree with you there. By searching for information on each consoles, I do admit the GameCube interested me the most.

If you were to ask me to rate the catalogue of games for each system at the moment, the PS2 would be first in no uncertain temrs, with either the GC or the Xbox 2nd or third 'based on peoples tastes, as both systems have brilliant games that appeal to different sorts.

If you were to ask me, based on the information at hand, to rate each consoles catalogue of games at the end of this generation, I would pick the GC, followed very closely by the PS2, and the Xbox at third.

So, I consider my self to be open minded, and not a fanboy, but someone who, based on his own opinion, happens to like a certain consoles catalogue of games/future games moreso than that of the other consoles. And I am 100% sure that basically everyone prefers the games on one system more than the games on another.

I assure you I'm not putting any sort of act on. If you think otherwise, it doesn't really bother me.

Oh and Bond, I had no intention whatsoever in turning this into an argument. I merely stated my interest in the game, and asked whether or not it would support the keyboard and mosue that is being released for the Xbox.

Shadow, you're "even handed" fakery is as thin and translucent as Saran Wrap. It appears to be obvious to everyone except for you. This is the last I will say about this on this thread.

Perfect Stu
08-10-2002, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by The Strangler
Shadow, you're "even handed" fakery is as thin and translucent as Saran Wrap. It appears to be obvious to everyone except for you. This is the last I will say about this on this thread.

Glad I'm not the only one who sees it...

Null
08-10-2002, 09:06 PM
yanno.

y'all jump on him. say he's not open minded... calling him a fanboy (yea, that term isnt used enough :rolleyes: )


but your jumping on him for 1 little thing he said. and you guys do it to everyone. one little itty bitty thing Anyone says about Any system. and its OH NO! HES A FAN BOY! HE DONT LIKE OUR CONSOLE!!! LETS BASH HIM!

call me nutty. but doing that makes it seem like your all fanboys yourselves.


people have oppinions. that doesnt not make them fanboys just cuz they dont give into peer presure like some and act like they like a console just so they wont get called a fanboy.

its stupid.

let the boy have his oppinions. and let you guys have yours.


This is supposed to be a thread about a preview for a game. not a fight about fanboys. I get so sick of everytime i go into a thread to see a good game or peoples oppions, and every post is YOUR A FANBOY! ....... NO IM NOT! YOU ARE.... etc.

Bond
08-10-2002, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by Null

but your jumping on him for 1 little thing he said.
I don't think it was just one little thing, I think it was more of a build up of things. But like gekko, I'm staying out of this one.

Also, Nine Inch Nail, I don't think the media is allowed to show the trailer of Halo 2 nor release it to the public. All we get is screen shots.

Professor S
08-10-2002, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by Null
yanno.

y'all jump on him. say he's not open minded... calling him a fanboy (yea, that term isnt used enough :rolleyes: )


but your jumping on him for 1 little thing he said. and you guys do it to everyone. one little itty bitty thing Anyone says about Any system. and its OH NO! HES A FAN BOY! HE DONT LIKE OUR CONSOLE!!! LETS BASH HIM!


Null, as I pointed out in an earlier post, this was not just in reaction to one comment he made on this thread. He has made repeated snide and biased comments while trying to convince everyone that he really cares or doesn't care about every console equally. It has grown tiresome.

He can post whatever opinion he wants, and so can I. It is my opinion that he is full of crap and I call them as I see them. I always have since I first joined this site. I am an XBox fan, and I have never pretended to be anything else since I joined this forum. I have nothing against the other consoles, but I prefer my XBox. I don't go around forums spreading negativity and bias while pretending to be completely benign. This is my issue with Shadow and I will express this whenever I feel it is warranted.

And I don't believe I used the term fanboy even once...

Null
08-10-2002, 10:13 PM
i doubt theres a single person in the world that cares about all consoles equally.

and if someone says they are. its my personally oppinion that they're full of crap. :D


Anywho. so that has grown tiresum to you. and as i said going into every thread and seeing the same time of argument has grown tiresome to me.


Obviously i didnt say any names of anyone personally. and i didnt read all the posts cuz well. the argument aint worth reading. lol

i just wish there wouldnt be such arguments. if someone doesnt like xbox. doesnt mean theyre a fanperson (thats my new word, it shall one day replace fanboy untill it too gets old :D ) if someone doesnt like GameCube. it also does not mean they're a fanperson.


The only fanpersons are the ones who dont like PS2.......... :hmm: ok ok, j/k, they're not either i suppose. :D

Shadow_Link
08-11-2002, 06:41 AM
Oh boy, here we go again.

Look, I domn't give a flying fú*k if you think I'm full of s*ít. And you probably don't care if I think you're full of s*ít either.

If you think you can tell who thinks what, and does things with a certain intention, then all i can say is shove your head up your arse.

Joeiss
08-11-2002, 11:53 AM
Ummm... Halo 2! Yeah... this game is looking sweet.


*tries to change to the original subject*


Do you guys think that Halo 2 will be better than the first?

Null
08-11-2002, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by Shadow_Link
Oh boy, here we go again.

Look, I domn't give a flying fú*k if you think I'm full of s*ít. And you probably don't care if I think you're full of s*ít either.

If you think you can tell who thinks what, and does things with a certain intention, then all i can say is shove your head up your arse.


hmmmmmmmmm. that directed at me?

I didnt read all the posts. sooooooo dont know if i said anything that counters something you said. (not changing my oppinion) But i assure you. nothing i said was directed at you. was meaning more to get them OFF your back. :p

Shadow_Link
08-11-2002, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Joeiss
Ummm... Halo 2! Yeah... this game is looking sweet.


*tries to change to the original subject*


Do you guys think that Halo 2 will be better than the first?

From what I have read, there will be a totally new engine, built ground up for the Xbox. That and the fact that the game will be built ground up for the Xbox, the game should look quite a lot better than the first.

It should no doubt be as good as the first in temrs of gameplay, but for it to be 'really' better than the first, it should offer some new gameplay elements. Only time will tell.

Oh and Null, it wasn't directed towards you.

Null
08-11-2002, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by Joeiss
Ummm... Halo 2! Yeah... this game is looking sweet.


*tries to change to the original subject*


Do you guys think that Halo 2 will be better than the first?


Wellll that depends. Halo is a damn good game. Halo 2 will be better. for xbox.

However, halo for PC vs Halo 2 for Xbox is a differnt story.

Halo 2 will most likely be better then Halo on PC in first person mode. But IMO, it doesnt stand much a chance against the PC version in Online mode.

off the bat i think thier online modes will be much in the same. (differnt maps prolly tho) cuz it will be first online halo for both PC and Xbox.

Mods tho is where the PC is going to lift off. yes i think xbox will have mods of its own. However the mod Community for the PC will be soooooo much larger. and i think they'll be able to do a little more. and faster with it.

plus the part that PC uses keyboard and mouse...... hmmm. Can xbox do that for halo 2 ?

Joeiss
08-11-2002, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by Null
plus the part that PC uses keyboard and mouse...... hmmm. Can xbox do that for halo 2 ?

I am sure they can do that, but I really don't think they will. Didn't Bill Gates say a while back that he didn't want keyboards and mouses for the Xbox??

Shadow_Link
08-11-2002, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by Joeiss


I am sure they can do that, but I really don't think they will. Didn't Bill Gates say a while back that he didn't want keyboards and mouses for the Xbox??

I thought that a keyboard and mouse were announced for the Xbox recently?

Professor S
08-11-2002, 01:16 PM
It was posted on GT is another thread, forget which one, that Interact (?) will be making a keyboard and mouse for the XBox. Whether or not MS has developers do anything with it is another matter... Typing of the Dead anyone?:D

Bond
08-11-2002, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by Joeiss
you guys think that Halo 2 will be better than the first?
Halo 2 will at least be the same as Halo or better in my opinion. I don't think bungie is as rushed this time as they were to get Halo out, so maybe Halo 2 will be even better. And as Shadow Link said the graphics engine is being completely redone. Which means there will be quite an improvement as far as graphics go, definitely a noticeable one.

Also about keyboards for the Xbox... Interact is making a keyboard for the Xbox which will be released around November. Although no games have been announced to support it to my knowledge, other than for entering Game Shark codes. Whether or not other third party companys make a keyboard, it is highly likely. But for Microsoft to make a keyboard and mouse for the Xbox it still seems a little fuzzy.

Bond
08-11-2002, 08:28 PM
A double post, but for a good cause. Here is IGN's description of the Halo 2 trailer shown at the X02 event:


As the trailer begins, you see Master Chief walking through a giant ship in all his self-shadowing glory. The trailer is in-game footage, meaning that those shadows Master Chief projects on himself are going to be seen in every frame of gameplay. If you thought the textures in Halo couldn't be outdone, you were wrong. The strongest improvement is the lighting, which seems more dynamic and dramatic.

Master Chief's visor appears to have real-time reflections and every detail of his armor seems more realistic. Rather than looking clean like many CG effects in movies, Master Chief looks like he's seen some action, as we know he has.

As the trailer progresses, Master Chief is preparing to leave the ship, obviously determined to kick someone's posterior. Sure, we knew Master Chief was going to kick some butt in Halo 2, but the surprise was in finding out just where this butt-kicking would take place. Staring out the ship's massive window, Master Chief watches the Earth being ravaged. As Earth and its moon come into view, massive nuclear-scale explosions can be seen erupting on the planet's surface. It's clear Earth is under siege. Master Chief heads to the flight deck, but there are no ships in sight for him to enter. Instead he braces himself behind a wall and opens the docking bay. After a moment's pause he jumps out of the ship and freefalls. He quickly descends onto a Covenant ship, one of several hovering over the planet.

Again the lighting seems the most dominant improvement. The visuals are crisp and of FMV-quality, but again it is all in-game footage. Earth is beautiful from afar, even as it is ripped apart by invaders and the Covenant ship Master Chief descends on is almost luminescent.


Sounds pretty good, eh?