PVG Challenges Your Best To A War Of Words!

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

Hey Guys,

Ok, Xantar and I have thought of the idea to make all of our members think, and what better way to make someone think? A Debate!

Simply Put There Will Be 2, 5 Member Teams, 5 that best represent Purevideogames.com, and 5 that represent gametavern.net

the PVG team has already been selected, it consists of:

Myself
Xantar ( of both GT and PVG)
Nitorious_1 ( Admin of PVG)
Jesterspawn ( Mod Of PVG)
and Indigo Montoya ( Mod Of PVG)

Now, Further Down This Announcment are the rules, when you want to submit your 5 man team, give Me a PM and i will add you.

Deadline is July 27th 2002, The Debate Starts On The 29th, and Ends On The 31st.

The procedure for the debate is as follows:

After Marc ( The Ibrox Fox) posts the question, the teams will have one day to prepare an opening
statement no longer than a paragraph. This opening statement will lay out in
general terms the team's position on the matter and their reasons for taking
that position. Teams are not allowed to address each other in their opening
statements or address each other's positions. To help this along, the opening
statements will not be posted by the teams but send as a private message to Marc who will post them all at once when he receives them all.

After the opening statements are posted, the teams may begin debating. This
consists of making posts as normal. The group of 5 must alternate
making posts. In other words, if a member makes a post, he cannot make another
one until his team-mate makes a post. Team-Mates are encouraged to communicate with
each other, and a member is allowed to address points directed at one of his team-mates

To keep the debate within reasonable limits (we all have lives, after all),
there will be a character limit on posts (30,000)

All the normal forum rules are in effect for this debate (i.e. no flaming,
post-cramming, advertising etc.).

Because some debates are very substantial and others are not so much so, the end
of the debate will be called by the moderator. Judges will then make their
decision as to which team performed best in the debate.

Judges will ignore the actual position taken by the team and concentrate solely
on how well it is argued in making their decision. A team that takes an
unorthodox position and successfully defends it will therefore be well rewarded.
The panel of judges will each vote for who they think had the best argument and
the teams will be awarded one point per vote that they receive

Thank You


* NOTE* One Member Cannot Be Selected Twice, Even if registered to both forums

[Mushlafa]

Wont the judges be a bit biased towards the forum that they use more? and how come you guys get Xantar :(

sounds like a good idea tho.. but i wont participate. Im bad at getting my point across and im not good at argueing so.. yeah :unsure:

[Joeiss]

I would participate, but I was too lazy to read your long explanation. So unless you shorten that up, count me out.

[Mushlafa]

Its a debate... and they pick 5 people from each forum... and theres judges and stuff... and they get xantar

[BreakABone]

This sounds like an interesting concept thus far it sounds like it's gonna be an mental manslaught but eh that's just my 2 cents.

Now, I wonder who from GT will step up to the plate. Who will be the first to take a stand and lead their team to victory?

*Penguin stands up*

I got to use the bathroom.WHAT?

[GameKinG]

PE should. Hes a lot smarter then he seems.;)

I dont think he will want to though...*heads over to recruit AGB members*

So...any specific topic areas?

We should have DH, TheGame, Zen (he post...sometimes), PE, and Neo...

Now...how am I going to knock out Zen...

[Angrist]

Count me out. :( I would have liked to join (I like argueing) but I'm on vacation at that time! :D

Try and get Ric, if he has internet again.

[Jonbo298]

*Read Rules. Passes out trying to comprehend them* I would do it but it all sounds complicating to me:confused:. meh

[Jason1]

nahhh...Im not very good at that kind of thing...I think Quiet Mike should be on the team though, definately.

[Bond]

Justin and gekko would be good choices, since they have different views, but are able to express both of them very well. Even though some of them are wrong.

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

well if you know how to get to pVG ( Address is in my sig) we are now called the Gamesquad Network ( Only because we own the network :P)


and just go through some of the topics in our forum, and see what we are like :)

[Perfect Stu]

what about sdtpikachu?

[BreakABone]

I see that no one has decided to join this little party as of yet.

What is keeping everyone from doing it?

Are you folks scared or something?

[Shadow_Link]

I'm game. Oh, I suggest Pika joins too ;), he'll be our weapon against Xanny :D.

[GameKinG]

Originally posted by BreakABone
I see that no one has decided to join this little party as of yet.

What is keeping everyone from doing it?

Are you folks scared or something?

I dont think Im very fitted for debate seeing as I failed debate class.

[Bond]

I'd be happy to debate for GT if anyone needs me.

[Xantar]

Originally posted by Shadow_Link
I'm game. Oh, I suggest Pika joins too ;), he'll be our weapon against Xanny :D.

There's a character limit on posts which nullifies my chief advantage. Of course, it also somewhat handicaps sdtPikachu. He's a rat after my own heart. :)

[PureEvil]

I'd join, but debates like these are stupid and EPetit is a jackass. Thus, I'll just sit quietly off to the side and ignore all of you.

[Professor S]

Hell, I'm in. What the hell, GT needs some intelligent backup anyway.

Wait a second...

*rips off Mission Impossible mask*

I'm really Indigo Montoya!!!

MWAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I'm very disppointed with the response here. Maybe we should contact TeamXBox for this. Oh wait, then it would be WAAAAY too easy :D

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

Originally posted by PureEvil
I'd join, but debates like these are stupid and EPetit is a jackass. Thus, I'll just sit quietly off to the side and ignore all of you.


Well you know my opinion of you, and meh, quite frankly, the general public here are notches to ignorant to understand how deep the root of our hatred for each other is.

So we shall let it pass

[Kitana85]

I'm in... I've been on the debate team in school and I'm a bit smarter than I seem (then again, I think I have to be...lol). I've also judged debates before, so I'd be open to doing that as well, as all of the judges obviously cannot be from PVG, and with the debate moderator coming from PVG, this is not a "normal" debate anyway... we would need an impartial moderator. Anyhow, do GT needs team members and judges....so

yeah, if you need members, count me in!!

[Xantar]

So the GameTavern team arrayed against the forces of PVG will be made up of

Bond
Shadow Link
Kitana85
BreakABone

Anybody else?

[BlueFire]

I agree with Stu. sdtPikachu should join.

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

Pika is already a judge, i asked him first, because i didn't know we were gonna have N-sider judges.......meh, oh well, you guys get a GT judge then :P

[Mushlafa]

Originally posted by The Ibrox Fox
Pika is already a judge, i asked him first, because i didn't know we were gonna have N-sider judges.......meh, oh well, you guys get a GT judge then :P

:mad: :mad: no pika??? No fair :p

Well then... queit mike? PE? cmon...gekko? GKG?

[Shadow_Link]

Originally posted by The Ibrox Fox
Pika is already a judge, i asked him first, because i didn't know we were gonna have N-sider judges.......meh, oh well, you guys get a GT judge then :P

It's only fair that Pika becomes a valid candidate, seeing as you not only have Xantar as a member, but someone who also decides topics... So if Pika wants to, I reckon he should be allowed. :unsure:

So since you 'already' have judges from n-sider, I hope that Pika decides to join :D.

Xantar, add BAB to that list, I'm pretty sure he was indicating he wanted to join or something.

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

so i reckon, " bring it on" is fitting..


Debate Starts in 2 days, be ready for a war :)

good luck and thank you for participating

[Perfect Stu]

I AM a dumbass...but I reckon I could take you all to school...

*looks around at angry crowd*

*runs for the hills, and then is underwhelmed with his lack of originality*

:unsure:

[Professor S]

Must prepare for mental war...

*tries to levitate a cigarette in the palm of his hand*

Too hard... losing consciousness...

-Indigo Montoya

[Xantar]

Originally posted by Shadow_Link


It's only fair that Pika becomes a valid candidate, seeing as you not only have Xantar as a member, but someone who also decides topics... So if Pika wants to, I reckon he should be allowed. :unsure:

So since you 'already' have judges from n-sider, I hope that Pika decides to join :D.

Xantar, add BAB to that list, I'm pretty sure he was indicating he wanted to join or something.

Actually, we're planning to write two of the topics and let you GT members come up with two others. Then we'll just go through them at random. The ultimate decision is up to Marc, but I'm not against having Pika for the GT team if he wants to do it. The only problem is he and I keep agreeing with each other.

Where is that yellow rat anyway?

And hey, what's with all this "it's fair that we get this because you have Xantar" stuff?

I actually chatted with BAB the other day, and he said he didn't want to debate. So now I get to taunt him for being a wussy. :D

[BreakABone]

Originally posted by Xantar


Actually, we're planning to write two of the topics and let you GT members come up with two others. Then we'll just go through them at random. The ultimate decision is up to Marc, but I'm not against having Pika for the GT team if he wants to do it. The only problem is he and I keep agreeing with each other.

Where is that yellow rat anyway?

And hey, what's with all this "it's fair that we get this because you have Xantar" stuff?

I actually chatted with BAB the other day, and he said he didn't want to debate. So now I get to taunt him for being a wussy. :D

Ofcourse calling baB a wuss does ntohng, I mean this guy has been called it all I'm sure. I've had no interest in debating in general for quite some time due to several people I speak with on AIM. Hence, the fact I try and avoid it as much as possible on these forums.

[BreakABone]

I generally hate to make double post, but I think it was a tad more fitting to do it here.

Since, I really didn't care to participate in this debate in any manner someone who shall remain Xanny-less has taken it upon himself to hold it over my head. Now as a whole, I could careless about how GT does in this whole debate thing, but since someone has taken their time and energy to extend a personal invite. I would have no other choice but then to accept.

So I'm not joining this whole debate as a part of a GT team or an anti-PVG team, I'm just hear to shut one big mouthed retired mod up for once and for all.

Now how do you like them apples, slap nutz?

[Xantar]

All right, we got BAB. :D

I mean, GT got BAB, but we got BAB too...sort of...

Um, never mind.

*goes to edit list*

[Shadow_Link]

Now that I thought about it, how can I join the debate when I am in a toally different time zone?:confused:

It would be unfortunate for me to miss all the debates, so I may have to drop out :(.

[Xantar]

Don't worry. We'll let the debate go on long enough that you'll get your posts in. Besides, formulating strategy with your teammates is a big part of the debate, too. You can do that with e-mail.

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

Blah, We sure are dis-organized, lol

ok, since we haven't even got teams left, Lets Start the debate on August 20th, ok? and end it on the 25th

that gives us loads of time,

sound fair?

[Notorious_1]

August 20th now? Sounds ok. Hopefully I won't be in school again by then...

Do the guys at PVG know this?

[BreakABone]

Hmm, that should give Xanny some time to come up with something a lot more challenging than "wuss" maybe something of a bit higher ranks. Maybe next, he will move up to pu$$ then he will add the y and hey before long he will be cussing like there is no tomorrow.

[Stonecutter]

hmm, so am I to understand that the date has been pushed back....


either way, I know I'm a newbie but I think I could help you guys out.

If you still need someone for GT, I'm good to go.

[Mechadragon]

I know Stoney from another forum and he's good at this sort of thing.

[GameKinG]

Originally posted by Xantar
All right, we got BAB. :D

I mean, GT got BAB, but we got BAB too...sort of...

Um, never mind.

*goes to edit list*

Im confused.


Just dont bother explaining. Youll only make it worse...:baby:

[Stonecutter]

Originally posted by Mechadragon
I know Stoney from another forum and he's good at this sort of thing.

ah....was wondering if that was you, hard to tell when I cant see the IP's.....sniff

[GameMaster]

I think GT has silently and maybe even unconciously shirked this whole "PVG Promotion" off. Lol.

[Professor S]

Hey, just because you guys are too chicken to step up to the plate, there's no need to be snide:p

The two sites just happen to share a good amount of members. thats the reason you guys were chosen.

[GameMaster]

Ok, let me reword:

I think GT has silently and maybe even unconciously refused invitation to PVG's competition despite our good amount of members.

Chicken however, afraid to step up to the plate, I think not. :D

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

Originally posted by GameMaster
Ok, let me reword:

I think GT has silently and maybe even unconciously refused invitation to PVG's competition despite our good amount of members.

Chicken however, afraid to step up to the plate, I think not. :D

Yea, then why is everyone jumping at it now?

[GameMaster]

Originally posted by The Ibrox Fox


Yea, then why is everyone jumping at it now?

Jumping? Five people from GameTavern have volunteered:

Bond
Shadow Link
Kitana85
BreakABone
Stonecutter

BreakABone is only in it for his own purposes. And if "everyone" is "jumping" at it, why has the date been shoved over to August 20th? Lack of organization, right... :rolleyes: I think you use the words everyone and jumping too loosley Marc, lol.

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

I like how easily you can critize, altho if you tried to run a forum, and try and do this, and have an actual Life * gasp* it would be rather hard.

But that's just my opinion.....

[Xantar]

*resists temptation to flame GameMaster*
*succeeds...barely*